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[speedy mechanic]

Not sure if it's already been said but a stock TBR-A LT has -10% duration and a -10% cool down nerf on it already, so they only added 2% to each :/

[Alec Braca]

Harshaw, on 16 May 2015 - 06:31 PM, said:

Clan mechs are supposed to be better, but clans also didn't fight like they do here in MWO. Clans fought one on one. They chose a target on the battlefield and it became off limits to other clan pilots. Clans were also almost always outnumbered due to bidding wars over combat drops. That was their biggest drawbacks against the Inner Sphere. If the Clans had fought like the IS did from the start then we'd all be bondsman.

Exactly. The Clans were better pilots bred for war and devoted their life to battle, victory, and being genetically superior. I don't know how many clan players are good pilots but if Mr. Joe Schmo who just joined the (Insert Clan) and is happily blowing away others because his mech is quirked and the IS opponent's is half ******** from being nerfed, we have a problem here. Do you want lore? If you want lore then the Clans wouldn't be able to play because they don't know how to play like that. Do you want to know why? It is because the clans have the same tactics as the IS. They use artillery, no batchall, no zellebring or whatever, no bidding, no one on one combat, no universal honor system, etc etc. This is the same as above that Harshaw stated beautifully.

MY GOD 1 more thing. What will happen when / if the IS develops their own OmniMechs? MRM's? LBX20, UAC10/20? HVY GAUSSES, LIGHT GAUSSES, UAC2? New mechs out the wazoo. Will we be wiping Smoke Jaguar off the face of the universe in the Clan home worlds? Will the Jade Falcons and Wolves fight the Refusal War? Also, don't cry that the clans have only 1 world in the IS. I have and will always will be the FRR and we were in the same boat but look at us before Tukayyid. The IS is just getting its vengeance. So really, should anyone be whining about this?
The IS used the Stalker, Thunderbolt, Firestarter to win CW
The Clans used the Stormcrow, Timber Wolf, and Hellbringer to win CW.

Edited by Alec Braca, 19 May 2015 - 07:31 AM.

[KursedVixen]

When the Is get's theier special weapons I will be happy because that means they have something the clan doesn't besides STD engines.


The problem is that the timeline is going so slow being a 1:1 we won't get IS specail weapons liek Light guass until 2025

so i say Restore the clans to their former MWo Glory give IS their light guass heavy guass and all those fun IS only weapons


smoke Jag is dead in Lore after Operation bullldog in lore and not all clans are evil the ghost bears and wolves in exil live in the Inner sphere. so :

Edited by KursedVixen, 19 May 2015 - 07:41 AM.

[Alienized]

conquistadorst, on 19 May 2015 - 06:13 AM, said:

First you say there's no data to support a nerf, then you say it needs a nerf, then you say it only needs a nerf because people abuse it, and now you call people using the quirks PGI has assigned to the mech the bad guys. Really? Yes, it's all those darned abuser players faults for playing the game by the rules! You could hurt people using that logic, I hope your day job doesn't have you doing anything too important. This argument is done, can't rationalize with the irrational.

ok looks like you go into troll-mode since you are unable to point things out clearly.
i will clarify some thing for you so you dont have to think about what i am writing about:

Yes there is enough data to nerf the laservomit on clans.

no there is not enough data to nerf the IS lasers on a full side because the TBR and SCR nerf data is not here yet.

yes i blame the community (and will always do) for abusing every free usable possibility that PGI gave us to build mechs how we like them by blatant stupid boating. which will (it should be obvious by now) lead to most nerfs. which then leads to a damn lot of crying. yes this is a circle fully going, started by one thing: community. did PGI build your mech loadouts??
no but i wish they would.


thank god not everyone us limited in building mechs and avoids boating where its possible to keep their mechs working even after a patch like the incoming one with the weapons they have currently installed.

that full customization PGI gave us was something they should regret the most.
more limitations are necessary meanwhile.

do i hurt people by stating what i think? might be.
do i care? no.

why? i could be less direct or i could give you a bush of flowers, wait for you to smile and then punch through the flowers in your face.

sorry but im not sorry for stating my opinion as direct as i do.

[GentlemanBryan]

Well, I beat I can predict the future. The Resistance II mechs will get nerf'd. We will buy the pack. We will really enjoy running the new mechs. All of a sudden here comes a new pack, and what do you think will happen - nerf all the resistance II mechs...

[Zackinger]

Behold the new T-Wolf meta:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7866ffdd25d6cc5

[Jess Hazen]

Alec Braca, on 19 May 2015 - 07:19 AM, said:

MY GOD 1 more thing. What will happen when / if the IS develops their own OmniMechs? MRM's? LBX20, UAC10/20? HVY GAUSSES, LIGHT GAUSSES, UAC2? New mechs out the wazoo. Will we be wiping Smoke Jaguar off the face of the universe in the Clan home worlds? Will the Jade Falcons and Wolves fight the Refusal War? Also, don't cry that the clans have only 1 world in the IS. I have and will always will be the FRR and we were in the same boat but look at us before Tukayyid. The IS is just getting its vengeance. So really, should anyone be whining about this?
The IS used the Stalker, Thunderbolt, Firestarter to win CW
The Clans used the Stormcrow, Timber Wolf, and Hellbringer to win CW.

The IS have omnimechs just not yet, one of my favorite mechs in MW3 was the Sunder. I slaped a pair of UAC20s on the thing and could knock down mechs then easily blow off a leg, it was awesome. It was awesome what was accomplished in MW3 for 50 or 60 dollars. It was before the time of F2P style suck you dry[if you let them] tactics PGI now incorporates.

Anyway since you've noticed the trend of the IS using 3 mechs to compete with Clan's 3 mechs remember just how many variants IS have to pick when you're comparing to clan then think really really hard in wonder why you think that is. I think its something like a 36 to 13 disparity there. IDK maybe the design is poor. Band-**** don't work Paul.

Zackinger, on 19 May 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

Behold the new T-Wolf meta:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7866ffdd25d6cc5

well yes and no.. for 1 there's not enough ammo for cw, and 2 all weapons on one side vulnerable think HBR.

[Sam Slade]

If you still spend money on this game you are a freaking moron... I got a legendary founder pack, a wave 2 clan pack, an ala cart TBR and a few Hero Mechs... if I could sell them to anyone I would but the resale of this games assets is zero... stop giving them money you idiots, they are literally running their business from sale to sale... I give them until the end of the year until servers vanish overnight.

[Randall Flagg]

See how the top of the screen says 'MAINTENANCE'

That's your Crows and Timbers being nerfed.

[Kellen Wolf]

Ran across this, and thought it was interesting..was a good watch anyway..two of top units in the game fighting it out..For everyone that crying out how OP SCrows and TWolfs are this match shows that things were actually pretty balanced before this nerf:

[PraetorGix]

Kellen Wolf, on 19 May 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:

Ran across this, and thought it was interesting..was a good watch anyway..two of top units in the game fighting it out..For everyone that crying out how OP SCrows and TWolfs are this match shows that things were actually pretty balanced before this nerf

It was. We had an acceptable balance and Tukkayd showed it. But the more I think on this the more I believe it's just a dirty move to get us to buy Cauldron-born packages. I love to see how it is backfiring. I paid a lot of money to these people but now I'm at the point I'd like to see them close the shop for good.

[Yokaiko]

Regulus1990, on 18 May 2015 - 07:46 PM, said:

I like this idea. It won't hurt the stock builds as much as the meta builds that just spam lasers.

Yeah, you mean like the 2 er-llas 3 er-mlas Stormcrow PRIME

[Alienized]

not sure if actually see the need for toning down ALL quirks in general.
you are all seeing the moneygrab, i dont see it.

this was just the beginning of the end for most high% quirks on IS side and with that a lower damage output on long range especially.
you been asking so long to make mechs more durable.
it might be happening just now but you go for a premature rampage because some lasernerfs.

[Yokaiko]

Whatever you are smoking?

Share it.

[Alienized]

Yokaiko, on 19 May 2015 - 10:17 AM, said:

Whatever you are smoking?

Share it.

im totally free of any drugs thank you. not even alc anymore.
you should do that too to see things a bit more clear.

alot of players said the quirkening gone wrong.
and it indeed is wrong with all the quirks on IS side.
just look at the highlander, so many quirks and still not working.
now its going the opposite way as it should been from start.
nerfing the top mechs and move the rest to them instead of blank-quirk everything on IS side to insanity.

[Jess Hazen]

Just ignore the troll.

[Mosadoff]

Zackinger, on 19 May 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

Behold the new T-Wolf meta:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...7866ffdd25d6cc5

30 shots for double gauss is nothing. Preorder EBJ !

[Motörhead]

The Raven 2X nerf is one of those nerfs that make no sense at all, if you do that the mech is useless again and they might as well quirked it for LPL or MPL instead, but 3x LL won't be worth it now, and the other builds underpowered -> Killed the mechs. Let's not forget that it doesn't have JumpJet and no ECM, being a light, with IS XL, it needed big quirks.

The Stalker 4N was fine in my opining, as 2 of the LL were low mounted, it was just that it was the only viable IS assault worth the tonnage in CW, so stacked it could feel a bit OP.

As for the clan nerfs, it just switches meta to ERPPCs on the timber and all on the arm on the SCR with other neutral hardpoints, not a big deal.

I would really love to see no quirks at all with a good weapon balance and then start adjusting from there, instead of the "gotta switch the meta" policy. On the other hand I can understand it, it sells a lot...

Edited by Motörhead, 19 May 2015 - 10:44 AM.

[Pepito Sbazzeguti]

Motörhead, on 19 May 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

The Raven 2X nerf is one of those nerfs that make no sense at all, if you do that the mech is useless again and they might as well quirked it for LPL or MPL instead, but 3x LL won't be worth it now, and the other builds underpowered -> Killed the mechs. Let's not forget that it doesn't have JumpJet and no ECM, being a light, with IS XL, it needed big quirks.
...

BobbehYYC, on 19 May 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

The nerf should be interesting to say the least.

It is comical all the light mech pilots bitching about losing the ability to solo assault mechs... Light mechs are generally suppose to be fore distraction, interception and flanking to create chaos... but not to brawl with heavy's and assaults.

Agreed with BobbehYYC.
2LL high mounted + 2ML low mounted are all you need in the 2X.
For the 4N 4LL high mounted + 2 MPL low mounted.

More DHS, less heat and you nullified the nerfs.

Don't complain about JJ or ECM lacks, this mechs can deal good damage at good distance versus a very little exposition.

Edited by Pepito Sbazzeguti, 19 May 2015 - 11:30 AM.

[Roland09]

SKINLESS, on 19 May 2015 - 09:31 AM, said:

See how the top of the screen says 'MAINTENANCE'

That's your Crows and Timbers being nerfed.

You, Sir, are a very evil man.

I salute you!