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[ThisMachineKillsFascists]

Kyynele, on 27 May 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

I browsed through some of my latest match end screens, only came up with one of these guys in them. Peculiarily, he did 77 damage in that match and apparently spent most of his time letting everyone in chat know how bad his team was.

pic or it didnt happen

[Gus VAPOR Rice]

PaeuxP22, on 27 May 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

Nothing real is 100%.

Are you absolutely sure about that???


Anyway, god job PGI!

[ShinobiHunter]

LordKnightFandragon, on 27 May 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

By 3rd party apps they mean macros for the Goose Waffle charge? Wonder how many of them were Dual Goose Whales.

No, PGI said they don't ban players for using Macros, SweetFX or TS.

[Chuck B]

Seeing on how we are dealing with PGI I wish that had stated how this guys cheated in the list. I'm a bit suspect on some of the names and I'm fairly skeptical about PG'Is ablitys.

[nehebkau]

Should we all go look at Reddit and see the "QQ I wasn't cheating! I'll sue!" posts? I think that would be a better use of popcorn.

I think this name release was probably the most obvious of the cheaters and PGI may be trying to get other people who are cheating to just stop and not force PGI to ban them. Ya know the whole deterrence thing?

Edited by nehebkau, 27 May 2015 - 02:56 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

What programs cause someone to GET banned? The question of sweetFX kind of shows ppl dont know

Quickgamma? Things like that that make night maps day?

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 27 May 2015 - 02:55 PM.

[Bilbo]

Chuck B, on 27 May 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

Seeing on how we are dealing with PGI I wish that had stated how this guys cheated in the list. I'm a bit suspect on some of the names and I'm fairly skeptical about PG'Is ablitys.

You have gotten all the information you are likely to get and rightly so.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 27 May 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

What programs cause someone to GET banned? The question of sweetFX kind of shows ppl dont know

Quickgamma? Things like that that make night maps day?

Does it give you an advantage? Does it alter the game files?

If the answer to any of these is yes, don't use it, simple and easy to follow rule on avoiding getting busted for using hacks.

Gamma changing software is always suspect, night maps are supposed to be dark, rather the point isn't it? So bypassing the night setting by using 3rd party software, that's cheating.

[Aresye]

RussianWolf, on 27 May 2015 - 02:20 PM, said:

on the bright side... with 64 less in that bracket the MM will have to introduce you to a different crop of players.

Hehe...

"Shinobi, meet 228. 228, this is Shinobi..."
"Alright you guys have fun now!"

[stratagos]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 27 May 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

What programs cause someone to GET banned? The question of sweetFX kind of shows ppl dont know

Quickgamma? Things like that that make night maps day?

I would submit that if someone suspects the use of a program might result in a ban, it would behoove them to contact support to get a definitive answer before they find out the hard way.

If they choose not to because they suspect they won't like the answer they get - then they have no real reason to complain if they get nailed in the future

[Chuck B]

Bilbo, on 27 May 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

You have gotten all the information you are likely to get and rightly so.

rightfully so?? lol, I haven't gotten any info( I wasn't banned ). Look how much confusion is out there on what is or isn't a cheat.. PGI doesn't do a great job of saying what is, look at this thread, PGI had to step in and say "yes we didn't ban this or that even though we could". Cheating is a word with many levels, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people on the list were banned for thing most wouldn't really see as cheating but more of just being a dumb ass or not knowing better because it wasn't obvious.

[Burktross]

I'm interesting in learning how PGI ensures these scrubs never make new accounts. PGI has said they don't IP ban, as it is very unreliable.

[Ingvay]

I recognize about 7 names on the list... sadly...one of them is our unit XO.... a second is a member who plays in a different time zone. I/We have yet to hear from the XO to see what their response (If any) will be. But cheating is cheating, especially in a dam video game, and perma-bans are appropriate if they've been caught.

[LordKnightFandragon]

LOL @ THe banned Hackers!!!!

Find them all and ban them to a cheaters universe where only cheaters can play against other cheaters......but then make it to where they cannot cheat, mod, affect, alter, change or anything to any code and give them all only 1 hit point, 1 dmg weapon with 0 range, where the only thing they can do is run around in a small circle trying to stab each other, but with 0 range, its impossible to do.

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 27 May 2015 - 03:10 PM.

[Bilbo]

Chuck B, on 27 May 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

rightfully so?? lol, I haven't gotten any info( I wasn't banned ). Look how much confusion is out there on what is or isn't a cheat.. PGI doesn't do a great job of saying what is, look at this thread, PGI had to step in and say "yes we didn't ban this or that even though we could". Cheating is a word with many levels, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people on the list were banned for thing most wouldn't really see as cheating but more of just being a dumb ass or not knowing better because it wasn't obvious.

I would doubt that. Most things that might be considered a "grey" area have been discussed repeatedly on the forums (Macros, vpns, and sweetfx}, and PGI or IGP in the past have given the thumbs up on those.

[Kael Posavatz]

stjobe, on 27 May 2015 - 10:38 AM, said:

Russ:

"We ... ensure that the conclusion we reach (sic) is the correct one. We made 100% sure before this wave happened"
https://twitter.com/...633437531070464

Isn't he obligated to say this?

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
-Obi-Wan Kenobi-

Edited by Kael 17, 27 May 2015 - 04:31 PM.

[Smith Gibson]

Barantor, on 27 May 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Looks like they are going to name/shame like Punkbuster too according to twitter.

It's not Name & Shame when they are no longer MWO players.

[RussianWolf]

Chuck B, on 27 May 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

rightfully so?? lol, I haven't gotten any info( I wasn't banned ). Look how much confusion is out there on what is or isn't a cheat.. PGI doesn't do a great job of saying what is, look at this thread, PGI had to step in and say "yes we didn't ban this or that even though we could". Cheating is a word with many levels, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people on the list were banned for thing most wouldn't really see as cheating but more of just being a dumb ass or not knowing better because it wasn't obvious.

Quote

Third-Party Scripts, Hacks, Bots, etc. Abuse
Software that gives players an unfair and undue advantage, or otherwise exploits the game, are strictly prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to: Bots generated for running any of the above mentioned forms of griefing/exploits, scripts designed to negatively affect network connectivity, mods affecting the game UI, hacks providing information otherwise unavailable to the player, etc...
Exceptions to this are made on a case by case basis and currently including chat macros and third-party VoIP.

Edited by RussianWolf, 27 May 2015 - 03:13 PM.

[ShinobiHunter]

Aresye Kerensky, on 27 May 2015 - 02:59 PM, said:

Hehe...

"Shinobi, meet 228. 228, this is Shinobi..."
"Alright you guys have fun now!"

They need target practice, right?

[LordKnightFandragon]

Burktross, on 27 May 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

Nothing better than righteous justice, amirite? Name and shame was certainly an interesting approach.

Name and SHame needs to be the way!!! Let the world know who the hackers are. Drop the no name and shame policy.