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[StonedVet]

You keep changing your statements. First its any solo with trial, then its new people, then back to trial and now in your last post you go on about new people trying CW.

On BTW, wrecked face in CW this afternoon using trials. It's amazing what experience and a little coordination can make up for.

[Armando]

Lowridah, on 05 January 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

You keep changing your statements. First its any solo with trial, then its new people, then back to trial and now in your last post you go on about new people trying CW.

You really haven't figured out what this tread is about have you?

It's not your fault, I bait people into the thread with a controversial 'click bait' title (The snark is part of my process), knowing that people who really care about the subject will RTFT while everyone else would....well respond just as you are now.

Lowridah, on 05 January 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

On BTW, wrecked face in CW this afternoon using trials. It's amazing what experience and a little coordination can make up for.

[snark] Yes, because YOU did every pilot who will ever play the game can do it too. One thing is clear, as long as you are happy you could give two shiats about the experience for Tier 4 and Tier 5 pilots, they are not your problem right. /wink /wink /nudge / nudge. And the experience of the other 23 people in the drop...if they are unhappy that is their problem amirght? [/snark]

How about you start looking past YOUR gaming experience and try focusing on how we as a community can help PGI as a developer create a better gaming experience for ALL of us. (hint: This is the point of the tread)

If you take the time to RTFT you will see it is littered by myself and many others with recommendations for improving the gaming experience for everyone who plays the game. At least one of those suggestions has ALREADY been implemented ("Welcome to Community Warfare" message).

All that said, I ain't mad at you brother just wish you would TRY to contribute in a more meaningful way (even if it is FILLED with snark /wink)

Edited by Armando, 05 January 2016 - 09:43 PM.

[Uncle Totty]

Armando, on 05 January 2016 - 08:30 PM, said:

You really haven't figured out what this tread is about have you?

It's not your fault, I bait people into the thread with a controversial 'click bait' title (The snark is part of my process), knowing that people who really care about the subject will RTFT while everyone else would....well respond just as you are now.



[snark] Yes, because YOU did every pilot who will ever play the game can do it too. One thing is clear, as long as you are happy you could give two shiats about the experience for Tier 4 and Tier 5 pilots, they are not your problem right. /wink /wink /nudge / nudge. And the experience of the other 23 people in the drop...if they are unhappy that is their problem amirght? [/snark]

How about you start looking past YOUR gaming experience and try focusing on how we as a community can help PGI as a developer create a better gaming experience for ALL of us. (hint: This is the point of the tread)



If you take the time to RTFT you will see it is littered by myself and many others with recommendations for improving the gaming experience for everyone who plays the game. At least one of those suggestions has ALREADY been implemented ("Welcome to Community Warfare" message).

All that said, I ain't mad at you brother just wish you would TRY to contribute in a more meaningful way (even if it is FILLED with snark /wink)

What this thread has always been about: "Stop ruining this game for me! Play it the way I want you to!"

PS. **** the meta.

Edited by Nathan K, 06 January 2016 - 02:23 AM.

[Yozzman]

Just a minimal ammount of battles would be an easy fix...

[Armando]

Nathan K, on 06 January 2016 - 02:21 AM, said:

What this thread has always been about: "Stop ruining this game for me! Play it the way I want you to!"

PS. **** the meta.

This is funny stuff. No one has ever ruined anything for me. When I play, I am in the 'meta' running with 11 other Tier 2 or better players...I don't remember the last time I lost a match in CW (Sometime during Fall of last year???).

PS **** the meta if you want, I will add your salt to the pile. (No one has produced more salt in this tread than you old friend).

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 11:00 AM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 05 January 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:

I'm not implying it is a direct quote, IT IS a direct quote. It is easy to miss so I will try to highlight for you...

you don't see the difference in your statement and the exact quote...?
well ok then...

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:

you don't see the difference in your statement and the exact quote...?
well ok then...

Take any garbage you want to the battlefield, just don't go cry on the forums when you get your A$$ handed to you over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, AND OVER again...BEGGING PGI to nerf teamwork.

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 11:33 AM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Take any garbage you want to the battlefield, just do cry on the forums when you get your A$$ handed to you over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, AND OVER again...BEGGING PGI to nerf teamwork.

and nothing you said here has anything to do with my question or statements

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 11:32 AM, said:

and nothing you said here has anything to do with my question or statements

You said, and I am quoting here "Nowhere does it say what you said".

I then went on to HIGHLIGHT the exact quote I used, which was directly related to my statement that taking trial mechs into CW has an excellent chance in ending in the tears of 24 pilots (including the tears of the pilot taking the trial mechs).

If there is something I missed, I am sorry, please re-post and I will try and address. /wink

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 11:52 AM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 11:49 AM, said:

You said, and I am quoting here "Nowhere does it say what you said".

I then went on to HIGHLIGHT the exact quote I used, which was directly related to my statement that taking trial mechs into CW has an excellent chance in ending in the tears of 24 pilots (including the tears of the pilot taking the trial mechs).

your "exact quote" was not an exact quote
period

changing words isn't an exact quote

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 11:50 AM, said:

your "exact quote" was not an exact quote
period

changing words isn't an exact quote

Read the "Welcome Message" friend, I changed NOTHING...word for word "quote" inside the "quotes". Please show me anything I "quoted" that was added, removed, or different from Welcome Message...by even a letter?

"WELL-STOCKED AND HEAVILY CUSTOMIZED MECH LOADOUTS" is what was quoted...please point out a single letter...HELL, even a single SPACE, that is different from what is the in the 'welcome' message.

[snark] Oh, wait I see it now!!!

There is no " ' " before the word mech. My quote should have been "WELL-STOCKED AND HEAVILY CUSTOMIZED 'MECH LOADOUTS".
........................^
That " ' " in front of the word MECH being missing COMPLETELY changes the meaning of the whole statement !!! [/snark]

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 01:21 PM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 12:02 PM, said:

Read the "Welcome Message" friend, I changed NOTHING...word for word "quote" inside the "quotes". Please show me anything I "quoted" that was added, removed, or different from Welcome Message...by even a letter?

"WELL-STOCKED AND HEAVILY CUSTOMIZED MECH LOADOUTS" is what was quoted...please point out a single letter...HELL, even a single SPACE, that is different from what is the in the 'welcome' message.

[snark] Oh, wait I see it now!!!

There is no " ' " before the word mech. My quote should have been "WELL-STOCKED AND HEAVILY CUSTOMIZED 'MECH LOADOUTS".
........................^
That " ' " in front of the word MECH being missing COMPLETELY changes the meaning of the whole statement !!! [/snark]

since the very first time you quoted it, you specifically spoke regarding new players, not vets. See that part AFTER the part you quoted?
Yea, that's the new player message and advice regarding
You specifically stated that PGI tells new players one thing, when in actuality what they specifically tell new players is
"four customized and familiar mechs"

Again, if you're going to quote and represent something like that, you can't just pick and choose and present it out of context. Nowhere does PGI state new players should have "well-stocked and heavily customized mechs". They are specifically letting new players know that's the kind of forces they will commonly see in CW.

There's a difference in the tone, meaning, etc. of those statements and you're simply cherry picking and misrepresenting what was actually said in this case.

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

since the very first time you quoted it, you specifically spoke regarding new players, not vets. See that part AFTER the part you quoted?
Yea, that's the new player message and advice regarding
You specifically stated that PGI tells new players one thing, when in actuality what they specifically tell new players is
"four customized and familiar mechs"

Again, if you're going to quote and represent something like that, you can't just pick and choose and present it out of context. Nowhere does PGI state new players should have "well-stocked and heavily customized mechs". They are specifically letting new players know that's the kind of forces they will commonly see in CW.

There's a difference in the tone, meaning, etc. of those statements and you're simply cherry picking and misrepresenting what was actually said in this case.

[insert something about a forest and trees here]

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 01:43 PM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

vice versa

You don't get to change words around because they "fit" your personal opinion better that way

That's my point, you don't spread misinformation, because new players don't have the benefit of 3 years of knowledge regarding MWO, PGI, balance changes, sentiments expressed by the devs and company, etc.

The point? The point at this point is nothing but you trying to get your page count up.

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:

vice versa

You don't get to change words around because they "fit" your personal opinion better that way

Tell us all (for the first time because you NEVER have). What did I say that was quoted " " that wasn't word for word in the Welcome Message??? Please do tell what words did I change around???

Edited by Armando, 06 January 2016 - 02:16 PM.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 01:56 PM, said:

Tell us all (for the first time because you NEVER have). What did I say that was quoted " " that wasn't word for word in the Welcome Message??? Please do tell what words did I change around???

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

since the very first time you quoted it, you specifically spoke regarding new players, not vets. See that part AFTER the part you quoted?
Yea, that's the new player message and advice regarding
You specifically stated that PGI tells new players one thing, when in actuality what they specifically tell new players is
"four customized and familiar mechs"

Again, if you're going to quote and represent something like that, you can't just pick and choose and present it out of context. Nowhere does PGI state new players should have "well-stocked and heavily customized mechs". They are specifically letting new players know that's the kind of forces they will commonly see in CW.

There's a difference in the tone, meaning, etc. of those statements and you're simply cherry picking and misrepresenting what was actually said in this case.

[Armando]

Sandpit, on 06 January 2016 - 02:31 PM, said:

I will not [snark] this next one because there is no [snark].

Reading comprehension is important in life, I would highly recommend you take a class on it soon.

[Sandpit]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

I will not [snark] this next one because there is no [snark].

Reading comprehension is important in life, I would highly recommend you take a class on it soon.

sure thing sparky

[Kin3ticX]

inb4 page 100

[Uncle Totty]

Armando, on 06 January 2016 - 07:19 AM, said:

This is funny stuff. No one has ever ruined anything for me. When I play, I am in the 'meta' running with 11 other Tier 2 or better players...I don't remember the last time I lost a match in CW (Sometime during Fall of last year???).

PS **** the meta if you want, I will add your salt to the pile. (No one has produced more salt in this tread than you old friend).

"No one is ruining this for me because I win easily. Thanks to my meta, I have no risk of losing."

Armando, on 09 August 2015 - 12:01 AM, said:

PGI lied to me...

I was told there was going to be community warfare, and it doesn't exist. Not when the game was released, not last week, not today, has NEVER happened.

What PGI laughably CALLS Community Warfare is really just a solo que where players get to drop in 4 mechs. I was TOLD that I was going to get a COMMUNITY of players, working together as a faction / mercenary units to fight against. I call BULLSH!T !!!!!

All I see, match after match, after match, after match is solo players in trials who can't break 100 damage using 4 mechs.

This brings be to the Topic Title:

SOLO PLAYERS SHOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO QUE FOR COMMUNITY WARFARE.

To say "A Solo Player participated in Community Warfare" is a text book example of an oxymoronic statement.

FACT: Solo players have a que to fight against other solo players already.
FACT: There is no game mode for only 12 man groups. (What COMMUNITY warfare should have been).

As long as a solo player can que for a 'community warfare' drop, there is no community warfare. PGI farked over every community of players (every unit in the game) by allowing solo players the OPTION to que for community warfare. PGI farked over every solo player in game by giving them a chance to que without a unit (If can do it, you should be able to...not solo players fault for attacking/defending solo....it should have never been an option).

TL:DR - Community Warfare should not be an option for solo players, No unit, no que option. Give solo players are REASON to join a 'community' (aka: Faction and or Unit) and play as a member of a GROUP. Fix community warfare....solo players have their que, 2-11 players have their ques, 12 mans should have our community warfare.

Thank you for your time.

- Armando

"PUGs ruin this for me because my wins are too easy. I don't want to drop my meta because I don't want to risk losing."

Edited by Nathan K, 06 January 2016 - 03:07 PM.