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[KraftySOT]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

Wait, I thought I saw negative agility quirks on most Cheeto torsos?

Aye. Its going to be slightly less agile, and its got a tad more heat. Other than that nothing really changed. It lost its structure on the legs on everything but the paywall version.

[Bilbo]

Mister Blastman, on 11 September 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Look, folks, we might not get uber pew-pew anymore but if time to kill is increased, how is that bad? Lots have complained stuff dies too fast. So... now it might take longer? That's not so bad, right? Let's see it in action first.

For some mechs the ttk may have gone up but I fail to see how removing structure quirks from an Atlas D-DC helps it stay alive against anything, much less a Clan assault.

Edited by Bilbo, 11 September 2015 - 12:39 PM.

[KraftySOT]

Yeah theres mechs now that are tougher. A few mechs are more fragile. Everything puts out less firepower.

However the main "problem mechs" have had very little decrease in their ability to wtf pwn things.

It seems like most of those now have terrible sensors. But I dont see how that stops them from putting massive damage into CTs such.

[Adiuvo]

Anyone got stuff for the Jenner, Raven, Firestarter, and ACH?

[LT. HARDCASE]

Shadowhawks got nerfs

That's what I get for expecting PGI to be sensical....

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

Wait, I thought I saw negative agility quirks on most Cheeto torsos?

Maybe...the Clam quirks are painful to read.


You're right, -25 Degs for the Prime+ECM

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Mister Blastman, on 11 September 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Look, folks, we might not get uber pew-pew anymore but if time to kill is increased, how is that bad? Lots have complained stuff dies too fast. So... now it might take longer? That's not so bad, right? Let's see it in action first.

My biggest problem so far is the idea I wont get to choose what game modes to play.

[KraftySOT]

Buried in this thread is pretty much every mech people are concerned about. Ones I havent seen yet are Ravens, Ice Ferrets, Cataphracts, and Jagers.

[Adiuvo]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 12:41 PM, said:

snip

If -.1 for accel/decel makes it slower I'm gonna lol hard.

[KraftySOT]

Adiuvo, on 11 September 2015 - 12:45 PM, said:

If -.1 for accel/decel makes it slower I'm gonna lol hard.

Pretty sure it does. Its a multiplier.

[IraqiWalker]

Alistair Winter, on 11 September 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

It's become increasingly obvious that PGI, and even the most hardcore MWO players, don't give two sh*ts about this line of reasoning. I personally do care about being loyal to mechs' original purpose in lore. But neither PGI nor most fans do anymore.

A lot of people like to posture and talk about how lore is super important to them... and they're still consistently playing with the most meta builds available, with no regard for lore at all. If people could run 8xMPL and an XL400 engine on the Mauler, most players wouldn't hesitate to turn that venerable long range support mech into a fast brawler. They'd do it at the drop of a dime.

I've actually seen builds like that in tourneys.

Also, folks do bear in mind, this is the first draft, so offer feedback, proper feedback, and see what happens. Russ stated that none of this is final, anyways. So let's use this info to compile suggestions, and feedback.

[Adiuvo]

KraftySOT, on 11 September 2015 - 12:46 PM, said:

Pretty sure it does. Its a multiplier.

Well, least I can target really fast as I'm getting shot!

[Mcgral18]

Adiuvo, on 11 September 2015 - 12:39 PM, said:

Anyone got stuff for the Jenner, Raven, Firestarter, and ACH?

Clams are a mess, here's the whole ACH, be warned:

Spoiler

-<OmniPods>

-<Set name="ach-prime">

-<SetBonuses>

-<Bonus PieceCount="8">
<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025"/>
</Bonus>
</SetBonuses>

-<component name="head">
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1"/>
</component>

-<component name="centre_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-15"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.15"/>
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.66"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.2"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_arm">
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="40"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="2" ID="42"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.25"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.05"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_torso" CanEquipECM="1">
<Hardpoint lookAim="0" Type="1" ID="20"/>
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_torso">
<Hardpoint lookAim="0" Type="1" ID="11"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.25"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_arm">
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="30"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="2" ID="33"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_leg">
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075"/>
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.05"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_leg">
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075"/>
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.05"/>
</component>
</Set>

-<Set name="ach-a">

-<SetBonuses>

-<Bonus PieceCount="8">
<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025"/>
</Bonus>
</SetBonuses>

-<component name="head">
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2"/>
</component>

-<component name="centre_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-20"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.15"/>
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.3"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.33"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="5"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="40"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="2" ID="42"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="10"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="14"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-1.5"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_torso">
<Hardpoint lookAim="0" Type="4" ID="10"/>
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.15"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="14"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.75"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="30"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="2" ID="33"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="10"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_leg">
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_leg">
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2"/>
</component>
</Set>

-<Set name="ach-b">

-<SetBonuses>

-<Bonus PieceCount="8">
<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025"/>
</Bonus>
</SetBonuses>

-<component name="head">
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.5"/>
</component>

-<component name="centre_torso">
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.3"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.1"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="41"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-0.75"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.15"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="7"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1.5"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="0.15"/>
<Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="7"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1.5"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="31"/>
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="0" ID="34"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.165"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_leg">
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_leg">
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2"/>
</component>
</Set>

-<Set name="ach-c">

-<SetBonuses>

-<Bonus PieceCount="8">
<Quirk name="xpbonus_multiplier" value="0.025"/>
</Bonus>
</SetBonuses>

-<component name="head">
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-1"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.33"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2"/>
</component>

-<component name="centre_torso">
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-5"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.075"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2.5"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.825"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="0.25"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="41"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10"/>
<Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="0.75"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_torso">
<Hardpoint lookAim="0" Type="1" ID="21"/>
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1"/>
<Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="-0.75"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_torso">
<Hardpoint lookAim="0" Type="1" ID="11"/>
<Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1"/>
<Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1"/>
<Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.075"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_arm">
<Hardpoint lookAim="1" Type="1" ID="32"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1910"/>
<Internal Toggleable="1" ItemID="1911"/>
<Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-5"/>
<Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.025"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.25"/>
<Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.15"/>
</component>

-<component name="left_leg">
<Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="14"/>
</component>

-<component name="right_leg">
<Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="14"/>
</component>
</Set>
</OmniPods>

A BIG mess.


IS quirks are easy to deal with.

Jenner:

Spoiler

Jenner D:

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value=".165" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="2" />
  </QuirkList>

Jenner F

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-20" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.165" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>

Jenner K

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-30" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.25" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1.5" />
  </QuirkList>

Jenner Oxide

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.35" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="18" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="15" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="15" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="15" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="15" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1" />
  </QuirkList>

Raven

Spoiler

Raven 2X

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="11" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1" />
  </QuirkList>

Raven 3L

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-30" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
  </QuirkList>

Raven 4X

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="11" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1" />
  </QuirkList>

Raven Huggin

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.5" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="22" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="16" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="14" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-1.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>

Firestarter

Spoiler

FS9-A

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.1" />
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.165" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>

FS9-Ember

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.5775" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1" />
  </QuirkList>

FS9-H

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="10" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="3" />
  </QuirkList>

FS9-K

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="accellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.1" />
    <Quirk name="decellerp_all_multiplier" value="0.05" />
    <Quirk name="turnlerp_all_multiplier" value="0.15" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="9" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="1.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="0.165" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="-2" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="4" />
  </QuirkList>

FS9-S

  <QuirkList>
    <Quirk name="torsoangle_yaw_additive" value="-10" />
    <Quirk name="torsospeed_yaw_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ct_additive" value="9" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_lt_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rt_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_la_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ra_additive" value="7" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_ll_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="internalresist_rl_additive" value="8" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_medium_multiplier" value="-0.5" />
    <Quirk name="targetscantime_long_multiplier" value="-0.2" />
    <Quirk name="targetretentiontime_additive" value="1" />
    <Quirk name="targetacquisitiondelay_additive" value="1" />
  </QuirkList>

[FupDup]

Adiuvo, on 11 September 2015 - 12:45 PM, said:

If -.1 for accel/decel makes it slower I'm gonna lol hard.

Slower twisting and turning, too.

Balance™.

[XX Sulla XX]

FupDup, on 11 September 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

Mad Cat seems to have -25% torso twist speed on the Prime CT. Also -10% accel and decell. -15% turn rate.

Timber Whale time?

Some of the other pods make it up though...it's hard to decipher them in this wall of text format. I'll have to wait for in-game to actually read it effectively.

Problem is still clan weapons are just better than IS weapons. They should have just added the new IS weapons that balance better against the clans.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Steve Pryde, on 11 September 2015 - 12:14 PM, said:

Really, I hate negativ quirks. Balance about battle value, not over ****** quirks.

ugh I thought they got rid of negative quirks -.- balancing by "feel" woo

[Yosharian]

Lmao

Completely worthless

Why would anyone pilot an Inner Sphere mech after this

[KraftySOT]

<Quirk name="targetscantime_short_multiplier" value="2" />


Thats the first one ive seen that high on the Jenner.

[Sarlic]

Yosharian, on 11 September 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

Lmao

Completely worthless

Why would anyone pilot an Inner Sphere mech after this

I do, and i will try to melt your face.

Try.... Try.... Try.... Again.. Like old fashioned taperecorder.

[KraftySOT]

I sold all my clams so I have no choice lol