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[SovietArmada]

Im all for the Piranha, but don't we need machine gun arrays to make that mech work?

[SgtMagor]

Turkina for sure, ok so its basically a 90ton jump jetting Daishi, with removable jets(BONUS). I mean who wouldn't want to use it

[Gas Guzzler]

SgtMagor, on 11 January 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

Turkina for sure, ok so its basically a 90ton jump jetting Daishi, with removable jets(BONUS). I mean who wouldn't want to use it

Does it have removable jets? I was pretty sure they were locked in. Other than that, it is a Dire with less pod space, less armor, and less hardpoints, with the same great manueverability.

I'll pass for now.

[Flutterguy]

SgtMagor, on 11 January 2016 - 03:01 PM, said:

Turkina for sure, ok so its basically a 90ton jump jetting Daishi, with removable jets(BONUS). I mean who wouldn't want to use it

Me. It's pretty much one of the two assault mechs that would make me say "Damn, should have voted for the stupid Kodiak" if we got it.

[RighteousFury]

Well we really need the missing 20 and 40 tonners for clans to be fully flexible on the drop decks and tonnage.

Im not really sure about the 20 tonners (they would need some quirks for sure to be viable at all, like the locust) but as for the 40 tonner I would say:

Coyotl

The reason is simple. It is THE first clan omni mech ever. It looks cool and its actualy quite viable with some decent speed, endo and clan XL. The (only one) A config has JJs and the weapon hardpoints would be okish for a 40 tonner. Creating alt configs that work wouldnt be really hard and only because its not producded anymore doesnt mean clans dont run it still.

The alternative, the phantom would probably be too strong with FF, endo, giant XL and ECM+JJs...

As for the heavies and assaults, I would like to see something different really. Like the mentioned std engine assault maybe (give it IS like mobility quirks and its worth it... see IS brawly HGN vs clan brawly HGN IIC)

Edited by RighteousFury, 11 January 2016 - 03:09 PM.

[TELEFORCE]

I'd love to see the Turkina get Alex's love. It can be differentiated from the Dire Wolf through quirks.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 11 January 2016 - 02:38 PM, said:

Well the EBJ wouldn't have enough ammo, and would have a significant amount of armor stripped... and no JJs.

When we were testing them out in drops ammo really wasn't an issue, armor could be simply because its legs have a tendency to absorb damage but meh. As for JJs, I guess that is kinda big since it could popsnipe, but outside of that, JJs really aren't a huge selling point. After all the Timby has that over the Hellbringer and Ebjag currently, yet the HBR and EBJ are better for the tonnage (though GMan still disagrees).

[1453 R]

0bsidion, on 11 January 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

I'm not sure about the Huntsman. A) it looks weird and B ) 90 +% firepower in the arms. Other than that it might be OK.

The Phantom is basically another over-engined medium like the Ice Ferret. Sure, ECM is nice, but I don't think it'll make up for having the podspace of a light.

Clearly you are unfamiliar with the Phantom's 9E + ECM mix of omnipods.

ALL the small lasers. ALL OF THEM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

This would be nice, for a non-IIC Battlemech pack

Light - Incubus
Medium - Vapor Eagle
Heavy - Glass Spider
Assault - Bane

Take my monies.

Edited by LT. HARDCASE, 11 January 2016 - 03:11 PM.

[Dagorlad13]

Wave 4 (3052 Omni Mech Pack):

Fire Falcon
Black Lanner
Linebacker
Turkina

The Lanner and Turkina will really be a challenge for Alex though.

Edited by IronClaws, 11 January 2016 - 03:13 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 11 January 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

When we were testing them out in drops ammo really wasn't an issue, armor could be simply because its legs have a tendency to absorb damage but meh. As for JJs, I guess that is kinda big since it could popsnipe, but outside of that, JJs really aren't a huge selling point. After all the Timby has that over the Hellbringer and Ebjag currently, yet the HBR and EBJ are better for the tonnage (though GMan still disagrees).

Yeah there are still some situations where I would definitely want to have the Timber, but I LOVE the HBR.

I think the Night Gyr would have some good dakka options as well which would be interesting, but honestly, with 17 tons what are you going to do with the Linebacker? May as well use a Stormcrow...

IronClaws, on 11 January 2016 - 03:12 PM, said:

Wave 4 (3052 Omni Mech Pack):

Fire Falcon
Black Lanner
Linebacker
Turkina

The Lanner and Turkina will really be a challenge for Alex though.

What are your thoughts on a Turkina playing just like a Dire but not as good? Doesn't that sound boring?

At least the Kingfisher might get ECM...

[Dagorlad13]

Gas Guzzler, on 11 January 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

What are your thoughts on a Turkina playing just like a Dire but not as good? Doesn't that sound boring?

At least the Kingfisher might get ECM...

The Turkina is 95 tons, so it would be slightly more maneuverable than the Dire, but will have nearly as much weaponry (think Executioner more pod space).

[Gas Guzzler]

IronClaws, on 11 January 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

The Turkina is 95 tons, so it would be slightly more maneuverable than the Dire, but will have nearly as much weaponry (think Executioner more pod space).

No it won't be more maneuverable, it has a 285 engine, so EXACTLY the same speed/maneuverability of the Dire, but less armor, weapons, etc...

[Coralld]

I'm not sure what I want for Clan Light or Assault but Huntsman for Medium and Night Gyre for Heavy all the way.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 11 January 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

but honestly, with 17 tons what are you going to do with the Linebacker? May as well use a Stormcrow...

Take a fast and semi-tanky splat mech? The problem with the Timby is that you have more tonnage than you know what to do with for SRMs and the Stormcrow is incredibly squishy right now (which is why you would use the GRF-3M). It at least would be unique in that regard, the Night Gyr could dakka but that is really the only unique thing about it (that and iirc it is strapped for crit space worse than the Timby).

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 11 January 2016 - 03:29 PM.

[Ripper X]

Anyone know where I can find a complete list of Clan Omnimechs up to 3053? It would help me decide what my choices would be.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Ripper X, on 11 January 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

Anyone know where I can find a complete list of Clan Omnimechs up to 3053? It would help me decide what my choices would be.

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 11 January 2016 - 02:09 PM, said:

Lights:

• Fire Moth
  
• Fire Falcon

Mediums:

• Viper
  
• Battle Cobra
  
• Phantom
  
• Pouncer
  
• Coyotl*
  
• Mongrel
  
• Huntsman
  
• Black Lanner
  
• Stooping Hawk

Heavies:

• Crossbow
  
• Lupus*
  
• Linebacker
  
• Night Gyr
  
• Woodsman*

Assaults:

• Kingfisher
  
• Turkina

* - Denotes mechs technically no longer produced or in service.

[Metus regem]

Seriously, the Coyotl, she would just need a third variant cooked up by PGI, Endo 280XL on a 40t chassis, she's pushing 15t of pod space, everything is high mounted....

[Dagorlad13]

Gas Guzzler, on 11 January 2016 - 03:21 PM, said:

No it won't be more maneuverable, it has a 285 engine, so EXACTLY the same speed/maneuverability of the Dire, but less armor, weapons, etc...

It would be like comparing a Highlander to a King Crab or Atlas. Also, I believe that there are only two or three Clan Assault Omnis that are available in 3050-3053 that are not already in the game (Omnis, not 2nd-Line).

Edited by IronClaws, 11 January 2016 - 03:51 PM.

[Fubl]

I am going to name a standard clan battlemech created to be the ultimate defense mech. I am really digging here but i think with some fun and a created variant plus hero i think we could have a pure winner.

Ladies and Gentlemen boys and Girls i Bring you the Blood Kite.....

85 tons of pure Blood spirit K.I.S.S.

Stock variant
3 er large
3 lrm 15s
3 srm 4s