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This Week Russ Is Asking What We'd Like To See For Clan Wave 4 Pack Omnis Circa 3053


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#681 Jalthibuster

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 10:59 AM

I don't care about omni or not. No Kodiak, no money. That simple.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:10 AM

View PostIronClaws, on 15 January 2016 - 10:55 AM, said:

True, but was the Mech only used in the Clan homeworlds at the time, or was it part of the invasion forces.

Not even the point, especially since half the mechs in TRO are for the IS?

And we are talking simple availability, in MWO, nothing else.

#683 Metus regem

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:28 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 09:42 AM, said:

If you like the Kingfisher, go here please:

http://mwomercs.com/...clan-omnimechs/

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No Coyotl, means I want nothing to do with those choices! Posted Image

#684 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:33 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 15 January 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:


No Coyotl, means I want nothing to do with those choices! Posted Image


Just vote 2 heavies than or something, cast your vote for the Kingfisher! ;)

#685 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:36 AM

View PostMetus regem, on 15 January 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:


No Coyotl, means I want nothing to do with those choices! Posted Image

View PostGas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:


Just vote 2 heavies than or something, cast your vote for the Kingfisher! Posted Image

or PM the guy to add the Coyotl

#686 Y E O N N E

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:41 AM

I voted Fire Moth, Grendel (Clan Blackjack? Yes.), Linebacker, and Kingfisher.

Kingfisher could actually be pretty good, a STD360 in a 90 ton 'Mech isn't that big of a handicap, especially not when your stuff is ligher, smaller, and more powerful. Turkina was...redundant.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:42 AM

In order to clarify things and keep things simple, PGI should just forget about the exact year that MWO is set in and just say that it is set in the Clan Invasion Era and include Mechs and tech according to http://www.masterunitlist.info/

This would satisfy us lore nerds and those of you who want Mechs from 3053 - 3060.

Edited by IronClaws, 15 January 2016 - 11:43 AM.


#688 RedDevil

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:15 PM

Hard point inflation a given? Guess the Summoner got boned there too.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:16 PM

View PostRedDevil, on 15 January 2016 - 12:15 PM, said:

Hard point inflation a given? Guess the Summoner got boned there too.


Where is hardpoint inflation a given?

#690 FupDup

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:19 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 15 January 2016 - 12:16 PM, said:

Where is hardpoint inflation a given?

I think there was a forum rumor about potential future buffs to the sub-par Omnis. The word on the street is that Russ won't use hardpoint inflation as one of the tools for the buffing procedure.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:35 PM

View PostFupDup, on 15 January 2016 - 12:19 PM, said:

I think there was a forum rumor about potential future buffs to the sub-par Omnis. The word on the street is that Russ won't use hardpoint inflation as one of the tools for the buffing procedure.

the word on twitter, directly from Russ, is that he won't use hardpoint inflation to "fix the dogs"

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 12:59 PM

View PostMetus regem, on 15 January 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:


No Coyotl, means I want nothing to do with those choices! Posted Image

He left off the Woodsman and Lupus too, what kind of ship shod operation is he running on that thread anyway? Posted Image

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

the word on twitter, directly from Russ, is that he won't use hardpoint inflation to "fix the dogs"


I hate to say I told you so. Well, OK, it doesn't actually bother me a bit. Quirk bandaids and slight equipment buffs, color me unsurprised.

Edited by 0bsidion, 15 January 2016 - 01:03 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 01:10 PM

View Post0bsidion, on 15 January 2016 - 12:59 PM, said:

He left off the Woodsman and Lupus too, what kind of ship shod operation is he running on that thread anyway? Posted Image



I hate to say I told you so. Well, OK, it doesn't actually bother me a bit. Quirk bandaids and slight equipment buffs, color me unsurprised.

well, you never told me so, since I never said they were getting hardpoint inflation...........

But I'm still riding his butt for endo.

#694 Metus regem

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 02:43 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 15 January 2016 - 01:10 PM, said:

well, you never told me so, since I never said they were getting hardpoint inflation...........

But I'm still riding his butt for endo.



Buy him dinner and some drinks first, he might be more open to it then....Posted Image

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:15 PM

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT: I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED THAT THE NOVA CAT HAS 38 TONS OF PODSPACE

NIGHT GYR DOA

I DEMAND NOVA CAT.



Edit: the 75 ton night gyr also has 38 tons of pod space. The nova cat can also jump in some configurations, so i no longer see a reason to include the night gyr, its an uglier nova cat with a 5 ton tax on your dropdeck.

Edited by pbiggz, 15 January 2016 - 03:46 PM.


#696 Wintersdark

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:46 PM

View PostDONTOR, on 15 January 2016 - 08:15 AM, said:

How bout no omni mechs, and a Clan totem mech pack. Seriously we need the Kodiak...

I'd prefer this, personally. That's just me, though.

There are VERY few timeline Omni's left that I care about seeing in MWO at all, and if I don't see any of them, I'll survive. As much as I'd love to see the Night Gyr, and am interested in the Huntsman... there's a hell of a lot of Omni's available right now that will just add to the "Terrible mechs that will never see the battlefield" list. And then never get buffed, because some poor baby got killed by a Timberwolf yesterday.

View Postpbiggz, on 15 January 2016 - 03:15 PM, said:

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT: I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED THAT THE NOVA CAT HAS 38 TONS OF PODSPACE

NIGHT GYR DOA

I DEMAND NOVA CAT.

Now, I'd buy a Heavy tier pack to get a Nova Cat, regardless of what the light and medium where. That thing is beastly.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:47 PM

View PostWintersdark, on 15 January 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

I'd prefer this, personally. That's just me, though.

There are VERY few timeline Omni's left that I care about seeing in MWO at all, and if I don't see any of them, I'll survive. As much as I'd love to see the Night Gyr, and am interested in the Huntsman... there's a hell of a lot of Omni's available right now that will just add to the "Terrible mechs that will never see the battlefield" list. And then never get buffed, because some poor baby got killed by a Timberwolf yesterday.

There's also very few TRUE Totem MEchs (the Sarna List is ..overly generous to put it nicely) especially when you look to timeline and the fact several are Quads.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:49 PM

View Postpbiggz, on 15 January 2016 - 03:15 PM, said:

SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT: I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED THAT THE NOVA CAT HAS 38 TONS OF PODSPACE

NIGHT GYR DOA

I DEMAND NOVA CAT.

Edit: the 75 ton night gyr also has 38 tons of pod space. The nova cat can also jump in some configurations, so i no longer see a reason to include the night gyr, its an uglier nova cat with a 5 ton tax on your dropdeck.

The Night Gyr technically has the advantage in tonnage when you account for all hardwired items.

However, I will admit that the Nova Cat does have more critical slots to build with due to lacking Ferro.

This means that the NC would be better for laser-intensive loadouts for boating heatsinks, while the NG would be equal/better for big dakka. NG may also have bigger arm/shoulder hitboxes, judging by the artwork.


Both are good at fulfilling the role of slow heavy with lots of guns, so you can't really go wrong here.

Edited by FupDup, 15 January 2016 - 03:51 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:56 PM

View PostFupDup, on 15 January 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

The Night Gyr technically has the advantage in tonnage when you account for all hardwired items.

However, I will admit that the Nova Cat does have more critical slots to build with due to lacking Ferro.

This means that the NC would be better for laser-intensive loadouts for boating heatsinks, while the NG would be equal/better for big dakka. NG may also have bigger arm/shoulder hitboxes, judging by the artwork.


Both are good at fulfilling the role of slow heavy with lots of guns, so you can't really go wrong here.



Then lets make this nice and simple

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vs

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Nova cat wins on cool factor alone.

IT IS DECIDED.

Edited by pbiggz, 15 January 2016 - 03:56 PM.


#700 FupDup

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 04:03 PM

View Postpbiggz, on 15 January 2016 - 03:56 PM, said:



Then lets make this nice and simple

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vs

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Nova cat wins on cool factor alone.

IT IS DECIDED.

Using the original TT art of the Gyr doesn't make that even remotely fair. :P

Alex can always work his magic and make nearly anything presentable.





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