390 replies to this topic

[Lupis Volk]

Wolfways, on 20 January 2016 - 03:25 PM, said:

LRM's get nerfed to oblivion because people are too stupid to learn to avoid them, so any map which makes LRM's usable must be removed too...

oh noes people now have a map where LRM's are viable.

I swear this games community is worse than other F2P games. (looking at you War Thunder)

[Kjudoon]

Lupis Volk, on 20 January 2016 - 03:56 PM, said:

oh noes people now have a map where LRM's are viable.

I swear this games community is worse than other F2P games. (looking at you War Thunder)

Compared to DCUO and WoWS, this place is loaded up with psychopathic baboons.

[Dimento Graven]

Kjudoon, on 20 January 2016 - 03:59 PM, said:

Compared to DCUO and WoWS, this place is loaded up with psychopathic baboons.

And I am their king!

[Kjudoon]

Dimento Graven, on 20 January 2016 - 04:01 PM, said:

And I am their king!

Ain't touchin that. Not even with a dirty stick.

...edit... okay, maybe a little.

Edited by Kjudoon, 20 January 2016 - 04:17 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Don't push middle.

Scout, try to trap other team in bad position. There's tons of cover just not in the center.

Flanking actually works on this map.

Play smart and LRM boats are food here just like anywhere else.

[Bilbo]

MischiefSC, on 20 January 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

Don't push middle.

Scout, try to trap other team in bad position. There's tons of cover just not in the center.

Flanking actually works on this map.

Play smart and LRM boats are food here just like anywhere else.

If this true, I may fall in love with this map. We shall see.

[Kjudoon]

MischiefSC, on 20 January 2016 - 04:21 PM, said:

Don't push middle.

Scout, try to trap other team in bad position. There's tons of cover just not in the center.

Flanking actually works on this map.

Play smart and LRM boats are food here just like anywhere else.

Flanking? Silliness!
Scouting?? Madness!
Don't be seen??? Absolute insanity!
WALK MORE THAN 10 METERS?!?!? LOUD NOISES!!!

Wai kant ai facetank wiff mah DireDakkapewpew?!?
NO LEIK NOO MURP!! HATES IT AI DEW!!!

[Depressing-Fire]

I think the best advice ultimately, if you don' like it? Don't vote it when you're playing.

[Kjudoon]

Willhelm Vargen, on 20 January 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

I think the best advice ultimately, if you don' like it? Don't vote it when you're playing.

Because of voting... I can make you play it.
Muhuhahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!

[Depressing-Fire]

Kjudoon, on 20 January 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

Because of voting... I can make you play it.
Muhuhahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!

Please do! It's my new favorite haha.

[badaa]

Tripzter, on 19 January 2016 - 10:47 PM, said:

This map is by far worse than Alpine.

It's wide open, no where to hide.. Took my LRM boat on it to get my 2x xp.. Without even breaking a sweat i did over 1200 dmg. Did you guys seriously think a flat map is a good idea?

i did well wha wha wha

[Khobai]

The map is waaay too empty

they couldve at least made an effort to put some crashed dropships or something on the map

[NameNotAvailable]

Willhelm Vargen, on 20 January 2016 - 04:24 PM, said:

I think the best advice ultimately, if you don' like it? Don't vote it when you're playing.

The problem with this, and all the other knee-jerk replies above, is the fact that they completely ignore the fact that this map makes any kind of short range brawler mech utterly useless.

"hang back" - right, so the idea here is to just hide in a canyon and let the rest of your team carry you? I don't know about you lot, but I play this game for FUN, not to cower in a hole whilst everyone else does the work.

"scout" - mmm, that works really well in an atlas, you guys just wait here whilst I spend 30 minutes walking to the other end of the map, magically not getting spotted by the other team.

"flank" - see above, that only works if you're in a light or one or two mediums.

"dont be seen" - ok so we're back to the just hide and let the rest of your team do the work.

"dont vote for it" - oh trust me, I'll never vote for this map having played it a few times. Did it occur to you that the other players also get a vote? so the players in fast lights, long range sniper builds and LRM's vote for it, and anyone in a brawler is fu*ked.

Most of the other maps promote a variety of playstyles, this one PREVENTS a playstyle, the others don't PREVENT something. THATS the problem so many people on this forum seem to be ignoring.

[MechWarrior5152251]

Aethon, on 19 January 2016 - 11:27 PM, said:

There are plenty of ways to counter LRM's, and I rarely see people using them. I see people crying about LRM's without mounting ECM or AMS, and when spectating, it is obvious most of them never mount Radar Deprivation.

Just because the map is unsuited to your typical playstyle does not mean it is a bad map.

There is only one good counter to LRMs. It is the Radar Deprivation Module. It is not optional if you want to do well.

[butchly13]

NameNotAvailable, on 20 January 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

The problem with this, and all the other knee-jerk replies above, is the fact that they completely ignore the fact that this map makes any kind of short range brawler mech utterly useless.

"hang back" - right, so the idea here is to just hide in a canyon and let the rest of your team carry you? I don't know about you lot, but I play this game for FUN, not to cower in a hole whilst everyone else does the work.

"scout" - mmm, that works really well in an atlas, you guys just wait here whilst I spend 30 minutes walking to the other end of the map, magically not getting spotted by the other team.

"flank" - see above, that only works if you're in a light or one or two mediums.

"dont be seen" - ok so we're back to the just hide and let the rest of your team do the work.

"dont vote for it" - oh trust me, I'll never vote for this map having played it a few times. Did it occur to you that the other players also get a vote? so the players in fast lights, long range sniper builds and LRM's vote for it, and anyone in a brawler is fu*ked.

Most of the other maps promote a variety of playstyles, this one PREVENTS a playstyle, the others don't PREVENT something. THATS the problem so many people on this forum seem to be ignoring.

In case you forgot that your atlas isn't a scout mech, here's a quick tutorial about tactics and who does what. Bonus: it has pictures! Yay!!!
http://mwomercs.com/...ics-101-comics/

[Brizna]

The MAP is way too punishing on assaults, specially on brawling assaults without ECM. I took advantage of the discount and bought an AS7-S... I've given up on it for the time being.

Anyway, right now the new map is popular, it is also very favourable for weapon types that are not at their best, like ERPPCs and LRMs so in my opinion there is a synergy between people who are taking advantage of the new map favouring those types of weapons and people who want to use those weapons and take advantage of it being very common. But wait for a few days and when this map begins being a less common sight most lurmboats are going to realize taking lurms is a high stake, in most map not Polar they suck, then they the overall LRM population will diminish, or so I hope, and the map will become more playable.

Right now and ON THAT MAP ==> NARC + LRM is OP, PLS NERF.

Edited by Brizna, 20 January 2016 - 04:43 PM.

[Kjudoon]

Huh. I have little problem with my 52kph king crabs. I've even survived being narced because I know where to look for cover.

I can even flank in heavies and slower assaults.

I must be doing something wrong.

[Lyoto Machida]

NameNotAvailable, on 20 January 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

The problem with this, and all the other knee-jerk replies above, is the fact that they completely ignore the fact that this map makes any kind of short range brawler mech utterly useless.

"hang back" - right, so the idea here is to just hide in a canyon and let the rest of your team carry you? I don't know about you lot, but I play this game for FUN, not to cower in a hole whilst everyone else does the work.

"scout" - mmm, that works really well in an atlas, you guys just wait here whilst I spend 30 minutes walking to the other end of the map, magically not getting spotted by the other team.

"flank" - see above, that only works if you're in a light or one or two mediums.

"dont be seen" - ok so we're back to the just hide and let the rest of your team do the work.

"dont vote for it" - oh trust me, I'll never vote for this map having played it a few times. Did it occur to you that the other players also get a vote? so the players in fast lights, long range sniper builds and LRM's vote for it, and anyone in a brawler is fu*ked.

Most of the other maps promote a variety of playstyles, this one PREVENTS a playstyle, the others don't PREVENT something. THATS the problem so many people on this forum seem to be ignoring.

Sounds like a rough life.

[Groutknoll]

Kjudoon, on 20 January 2016 - 04:44 PM, said:

Huh. I have little problem with my 52kph king crabs. I've even survived being narced because I know where to look for cover. I can even flank in heavies and slower assaults. I must be doing something wrong.

The power of a tier 3 pilot is unsurpassed

[wanderer]

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The problem with this, and all the other knee-jerk replies above, is the fact that they completely ignore the fact that this map makes any kind of short range brawler mech utterly useless.

Last game I was in, we had an MPL Thunderbolt sneak around the side and gank two enemy 'Mechs by himself before going down.

Slow brawlers are meat here, but patient and reasonably nimble ones can sneak wide (because the map is wide enough to allow it) and run the terrain in the back for their attack. What they can't do is plow straight in.

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Most of the other maps promote a variety of playstyles, this one PREVENTS a playstyle, the others don't PREVENT something. THATS the problem so many people on this forum seem to be ignoring.

And don't talk about "this one preventing playstyles". Any intelligent team can utterly shut down a missile boat on Crimson (go tunnel into docks) or HPG (center high or low). I don't complain when the map vote goes that way and I can spend an entire round down to a few medium lasers worth of weaponry and 25+ tons of useless junk because my team decided the best places to fight were the ones I can do nothing whatsoever in a LRM boat.

Anyone then saying "You should use better weapons then" as a response? Tell it to this guy in his Atlas. He at least can -slowly- get to a position where his choice of only short-range guns can make an impression.