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[Xavori]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 March 2016 - 05:00 AM, said:

But but but LRM20s make my mechlab damage ratings so high!!!! (Same reasoning behind taking SRM6s vs much more efficient and focused SRM4s)

I actually tend to take SRM6's over 4's because I'm really good at sneaking up on people (the one thing I am worried about at higher tiers is seismic), and at less than 100m, an extra bit o' damage is useful. Now, LRM's...well, there the 5/10's def have it over the 15/20's, although if I can't get to LRM40, I'll take 20's just to get enough of a volley to get past AMS.

[xVLFBERHxT]

quirks quirks quirks... bla bla bla! Is this really all that matters?

[cazidin]

TrapJaw80, on 12 March 2016 - 07:33 AM, said:

quirks quirks quirks... bla bla bla! Is this really all that matters?

Yes. Now shut up and go Tweet to Russ that you want MORE quirks for the Quirk Gods.

(Please read that with a hint of sarcastic wit/humor.)

Edited by cazidin, 12 March 2016 - 08:05 AM.

[LegendaryArticuno]

So when do we get the new quirks?

[Malleus011]

Malleus011, on 11 March 2016 - 07:21 PM, said:

So, the Desktop Wallpapers depict an ARC-2R(S) with the wrong loadout.
The quirk preview depicts the same incorrect loadout.
The Archer post they may after the patch notes carries both errors, uncorrected, after PGI was made aware.
Now Paul is saying that the quirks we are seeing weren't supposed to be released yet.

...

What's going on?

And add to the comedy of errors: The Archer is 8% too small, and will have to be rescaled, and it hasn't even been released yet.

Go home, PGI, you're drunk.

Edited by Malleus011, 12 March 2016 - 08:46 AM.

[Roughneck Cobra]

Forum war worked to get the Archer Revised before Launch, thats impressive.

Now if only the Light mechs didnt have an army of Whiteknights... xD

[C E Dwyer]

Appogee, on 12 March 2016 - 06:33 AM, said:

All this pre-emptive slavering for quirks to buff a Mech that hasn't even been released yet disgusts me

But seriously, this is what happens when nonsensical balancing mechanics become considered somehow 'normal'.


So even during the Great Rescaling, they released a Mech that wasn't correctly scaled...?

They make "amateurish" look like an aspirational standard.

I do tend to agree that it's pretty sad we're complaining about quirks, and I'm including myself on this list, however P.G.I caused this.

They used quirks to balance and not just tweak mechs, so its all down to them, but really this thread and the others like it should never have been a thing.

The Metaheads tell us all how only bad players use LRM's how scrub they are, and yet a mech which is only known for its LRM load out, gets worse quirks than mechs that have Lrms as a secondary weapon, while getting uber quirks for their primary weapon. War hammer, Marauder.

Hell the War hammer was given stupidly high ballistic quirks so the meta heads could fill two versions with ballistic's.

So its not really that surprising, the pitchforks and flaming torches came out over the Archers Quirks.

[Barantor]

I still hope it gets mostly LRM quirk over SRM.....

[C E Dwyer]

Stryker Ezekiel, on 12 March 2016 - 08:48 AM, said:

Forum war worked to get the Archer Revised before Launch, thats impressive.

Now if only the Light mechs didnt have an army of Whiteknights... xD

I can think of two lights that desperately need a boost

The Mist Lynx.

I've been in matches where I've died and then watched a mastery class in how to use them, and seen a guy nearly save a match that the rest of us totally failed in, but the average player isn't going to break 300 damage with one that often, as the PPC sniper only works well if the rest of the team stay alive.

Hell I got accused of using an aim bot because I ninja'd two kills and got around 280 damage pop tarting in one, once. so they desperatly need a boost.


The other is the Comando, when a locust owns it nine times out of ten. Sure its because of the bugs weapon inflation, but it needs as much help or more than the Mist as it can't jump and the ECM version has probably the worse weapon load out of the lot.

The rest though I'd say are about the right place, maybe the spider could do with an extra weapon hardpoint but that's really all I can think of.

[Roughneck Cobra]

Cathy, on 12 March 2016 - 09:09 AM, said:

I can think of two lights that desperately need a boost

The Mist Lynx.

I've been in matches where I've died and then watched a mastery class in how to use them, and seen a guy nearly save a match that the rest of us totally failed in, but the average player isn't going to break 300 damage with one that often, as the PPC sniper only works well if the rest of the team stay alive.

Hell I got accused of using an aim bot because I ninja'd two kills and got around 280 damage pop tarting in one, once. so they desperatly need a boost.


The other is the Comando, when a locust owns it nine times out of ten. Sure its because of the bugs weapon inflation, but it needs as much help or more than the Mist as it can't jump and the ECM version has probably the worse weapon load out of the lot.

The rest though I'd say are about the right place, maybe the spider could do with an extra weapon hardpoint but that's really all I can think of.

I would agree to all that, if they could still be knocked down or even away from hugging my heavys legs instead of abusing that ability to the point I cant even turn or move

[Sader325]

So.

The archers quirks were released "prematurely".

But then they did this: http://mwomercs.com/...15mar2016-patch


Are they even trying?

[Roughneck Cobra]

Sader325, on 12 March 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

So.

The archers quirks were released "prematurely".

But then they did this: http://mwomercs.com/...15mar2016-patch


Are they even trying?

*Turns the screen upside down*

They just plugged it with Laser Quirks instead?

[Gyrok]

Barantor, on 12 March 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

I still hope it gets mostly LRM quirk over SRM.....

I hope it gets no LRM quirks at all, and all SRM quirks...

[Roughneck Cobra]

Gyrok, on 12 March 2016 - 09:42 AM, said:

I hope it gets no LRM quirks at all, and all SRM quirks...

But then Im gonna take your arms off anyway!

[Xavori]

Sader325, on 12 March 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

So.

The archers quirks were released "prematurely".

But then they did this: http://mwomercs.com/...15mar2016-patch

Are they even trying?

*sigh*

I might pick up the archers just for the 2R(S) (should be able to cycle LRM 5's to decent effect) and the Tempest (ECM heavy), but they're still petty meh, and definitely put a damper on my pre-ordering the Phoenix Hawk.

[Triordinant]

Sader325, on 12 March 2016 - 09:23 AM, said:

The archers quirks were released "prematurely".

But then they did this: http://mwomercs.com/...15mar2016-patch

It's too early for April Fool's!

[Black Ivan]

Cathy, on 12 March 2016 - 08:55 AM, said:

I do tend to agree that it's pretty sad we're complaining about quirks, and I'm including myself on this list, however P.G.I caused this.

They used quirks to balance and not just tweak mechs, so its all down to them, but really this thread and the others like it should never have been a thing.

The Metaheads tell us all how only bad players use LRM's how scrub they are, and yet a mech which is only known for its LRM load out, gets worse quirks than mechs that have Lrms as a secondary weapon, while getting uber quirks for their primary weapon. War hammer, Marauder.

Hell the War hammer was given stupidly high ballistic quirks so the meta heads could fill two versions with ballistic's.

So its not really that surprising, the pitchforks and flaming torches came out over the Archers Quirks.

Well said. Quirks are part of the problem. It makes Mechs with inferior Quirks redundand, PGI's bad work on breaking the Meta doesn't help either.

[Gorgo7]

Not in the least interested in quirks.
Would love to see LRM20, 15, 10, and 5 have the same spread.
It would revitalize the big tonnage LRM's.
It's not magic, it's simple, common, sense.

[Pjwned]

Definitely not maximum damage control for their nonsense balancing methods or anything.

Appogee, on 12 March 2016 - 06:33 AM, said:

All this pre-emptive slavering for quirks to buff a Mech that hasn't even been released yet disgusts me

But seriously, this is what happens when nonsensical balancing mechanics become considered somehow 'normal'.


So even during the Great Rescaling, they released a Mech that wasn't correctly scaled...?

They make "amateurish" look like an aspirational standard.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Edited by Pjwned, 12 March 2016 - 12:37 PM.

[dwwolf]

Gorgo7, on 12 March 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

Not in the least interested in quirks.
Would love to see LRM20, 15, 10, and 5 have the same spread.
It would revitalize the big tonnage LRM's.
It's not magic, it's simple, common, sense.

I would love to see LRM's get proper grouped tracking ala boardgame.