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[Joey Tankblaster]

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But i think most of the units play FP for the easy win. They arent looking for competition.

So you are familiar with the wishes and plans of all units to make such a false general statement?

[Triordinant]

[Valar13]

iLLcapitan, on 20 May 2016 - 03:12 AM, said:

You are just a poor sod and I will gladly ignore you from now on-
The fact that you have to praise your RL in an online gaming forum, only indicates its mediocrity to me.
My mum is fine thanks, maybe to the fact that she really is proud of her 33-year old son running his own business.
But I'm getting in your laughable footprints here, time to get back to the pool .

The real-life thing was originally relevant as I was explaining why many if not most loyalist units don't have the time to dedicate to "GITTING GUD" at MWO by the standards of [surats] like you.

And I'm sure she is proud of your younger brother and wishes you'd grow up and start acting more like him - I've never disputed that.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 02 June 2016 - 03:37 PM.
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[iLLcapitan]

Valar13, on 20 May 2016 - 03:14 AM, said:

The real-life thing was originally relevant as I was explaining why many if not most loyalist units don't have the time to dedicate to "GITTING GUD" at MWO by the standards of [surats] like you.

And I'm sure she is proud of your younger brother and wishes you'd grow up and start acting more like him - I've never disputed that.

You sound like a real grown up.
Now get to work big boy, hush hush.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 02 June 2016 - 03:38 PM.
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[Tom Sawyer]

Well this thread devolved into the standard name calling, unit bashing, PGI is evil, and you suck thread.

I will say this however. Having faced iLLcapitan on the CW and Public que battlefield I offer only respect to a skilled gamer which he has proven to be.

[H I A S]

Joey Tankblaster, on 20 May 2016 - 03:05 AM, said:

So you are familiar with the wishes and plans of all units to make such a false general statement?

Such bad reading skillz.

Edited by arivio, 20 May 2016 - 03:40 AM.

[StUffz]

The Point is that we aren't willing to face grinding weeks only to do some Units a favor and getting roflstomped until Tharkad. Only because 3 mercs decided to Level their Kodiaks in FW.

If leveling is their only intention, well drop PQ as Loyalist players do who have also purchased the Kodiak.

[Joey Tankblaster]

arivio, on 20 May 2016 - 03:39 AM, said:

Such bad reading skillz.

Then make it clearer by chosing appropiate wording and meaning, dude.

[Valar13]

Tom Sawyer, on 20 May 2016 - 03:34 AM, said:

Well this thread devolved into the standard name calling, unit bashing, PGI is evil, and you suck thread.

I will say this however. Having faced iLLcapitan on the CW and Public que battlefield I offer only respect to a skilled gamer which he has proven to be.

Having never faced him in game, I can only judge him for how unnecessarily douchey he has been in here. I made zero comments about anyone in particular until he started using my pointing out that people do have lives outside of MWO, and some have lives that limit our ability to play MWO daily for hours as a justification to start going after the so-called "perma-baddies" and impugn the skills of pretty much everyone who doesn't play like he wants them to when he wants them to where he wants them to.

Edited by Valar13, 20 May 2016 - 04:19 AM.

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Joey Tankblaster, on 20 May 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

Then make it clearer by chosing appropiate wording and meaning, dude.

You cant understand the words opinion and i think? That makes me sah, dude

[L3mming2]

iLLcapitan, on 20 May 2016 - 02:32 AM, said:

There are always some trolls, but how in the world could you imagine stoping pugs OVER AND OVer could be any fun for any halfway decent unit??

Don't you think people in good untis most likely have Cbills flowing out of their *** in abundance already??

You can find people avoiding competion in this threat, rather than in the described units.

This **** is getting old. Only PvE will make the game enjoyable for perma-baddies.

Fighting against CJF atm (only for a goddamn week) should be seen as a good opportunity to sharpen your skills, who gives a flying **** if the planet is lost, seriously.



Paradox trolling at its best

even if u are a god at this game unless u drop in a organised 12 man u dont stand a chance against a organised 12 man... to bad a large part of those organised 12 mans desided it would be a good idea to all go in to the same faction...

[Djinnhammer]

dervishx5, on 18 May 2016 - 09:03 PM, said:

For MS.

Hey, 228 and MS are big teams. Play each other.

Problem solved.

That is a good point, I know that you NS guys would LOVE to have a go at MS. What says MS?

[Tom Sawyer]

We enjoy a good fight. NS are top notch and well worth the time and effort to arrange such a game. Name the time and place

I know PGI has private lobbies and such.

But for those that recall the old Zone style lobbies would that not be great to have here? Being able to create a lobby that names a planet, shows those attacking or defending and those wishing then to counter attack or defend could join that lobby and instant game. Said game would have like minded attackers and defenders.

I have posted this concept so many times, but PGI would like to know would you like to buy a mech pack?

[Spider00x]

Just to be clear PKRL is a comp team designed to fend off other comp teams who attack steiner whether it be merc or otherwise. However when it comes to attacking, I don't want to waste time attacking a planet just so one of these large merc teams can win it back when we log off. However we will continue to defend steiner world's but we're only 30 guys which is my point.

[DarklightCA]

MischiefSC, on 19 May 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

It's happened a couple of times; both with FRR, also Kurita, and CJF. Oh, and Clan Wolf. 4 times I can remember. In the context of moving around not often but it's never been hard to predict.

You and I agree in a lot of things but here we're going to diverge - nobody is having an issue with organized groups. Factions have lots of organized groups. Nobody here is complaining about HHoD, which has more active players than 228 does by a significant stretch.

We're complaining about big merc groups. Specifically because prior to recent changes especially (limited fronts and loyalists voting on fronts) they constantly screwed up any attempt to make FW about more than just QP style finding matches. I get that for some people that's what they want - just make it an IS side and a Clan side and make it work like QP but with mixed pug and units and Clan vs IS and apparently some sort of leaderboard.

You want to be a merc, play all the sides, collect more pay, run IS and Clan mechs, essentially a 'do what you want go where you want' you're starting to run into some limitations. Specifically because playing that way has functionally destroyed the ability of anyone who wants to play FW how it is, in theory, supposed be played (that whole war between factions for dominance thing, at least pretending the dots mean something).

Having played all over as a pug and dropped with literally most the moderate to big loyalist units in their TS I can say a lot of people hate mercs. Would rather wait longer and just not have you guys in the game. Think about that for a second - as bad as waiting is they would rather wait longer and just not have you guys there. Not because you're good - nobody makes these sorts of complaints about KCom or NS, who are technically mercs. They're generally talking about MS, primarily, and to a lesser degree (and often for, IMO, incorrect reasons derived from painting you with the same brush) 228 and other bigger merc units. Why? Same reason most soldiers hate PMCs. It's a broken system that shafts people for being loyalists and rewards them for not caring who wins or loses so long as they get paid.

So when some tiny, feeble, half-hearted concession to giving some back-handed reward for being a Loyalist shows up and it's a mild inconvenience to you and everyone else cheers don't be surprised. The big merc units have been using everyone else for food in one way or another, doing their own thing and playing however they want for 2 years and just assuming everyone else will scoop the cat poop out of the sand box for them. At this point people are pretty tired of it and the responses are not surprising.

Oh and nobody is owed matches. Nobody. It's a game, you want someone to play with you, give them a reason. You stack the deck so completely there's little odds of their winning they won't show. From Scrows in scouting (yes, not an issue for me but a lot of mediocre players which again is the population majority) to all the mercs going one place at a time (again) you're going to get fed ghost drops.

People lose to good teams and keep showing up all the time. Don't try to turn this into a 'you hate us cuz you ain't us' thing. This is a small section of an already small community. You don't give reasons for people to want to play with you and they won't. It's that simple.

No, there has only been one other time where a lot of the merc units had contracted in the same faction. There has been times where some minor Merc units contracted in Wolf with MS and SWOL to help push Wolf borders but there had always been Merc units in other factions that could compete against them.

Let's get one thing straight here. This isn't about big merc units, it's about MS as they are the only big unit that actually accomplishes much with their horde of active players. There are much bigger loyalist units than MS but nobody ever seems to care about them because they accomplish little to nothing.

If people had a actual issue with large units than they would be hating SWOL too but because SWOL isn't kicking anybodies teeth in, being a loyalist unit in these Merc hating times likely helps too. They fly completely under the radar and the issue is always MS and other popular Merc units by association.

Don't blame Merc's for poor game design. Also blaming players bringing stormcrows to scouting on Merc's? Really?. Fine let's play this game, just blame all non-sense that happens in this game attributed by all players both Merc and Loyalists alike to just Mercs. Get rid of Mercs entirely and watch in amazment at how much the game improves .

Edited by DarklightCA, 20 May 2016 - 12:25 PM.

[BattleBunny]

So we have the population, they just cant meet because of the game mechanics.

Seeing people bash each other for choosing certain factions and blaming each other for wait times is sad. We all want to shoot robots in the end, and we make our choices accordingly. The fact it turns out we cant play the game mode while doing so is not the fault of the player base. We do what we like and so we should, its a game.

Its those pesky game mechanics that are in the way of shooting robots. So those need to change. Because we certainly wont. This thread is a good indication of that.

[StUffz]

BattleBunny, on 20 May 2016 - 11:28 AM, said:

So we have the population, they just cant meet because of the game mechanics.

Seeing people bash each other for choosing certain factions and blaming each other for wait times is sad. We all want to shoot robots in the end, and we make our choices accordingly. The fact it turns out we cant play the game mode while doing so is not the fault of the player base. We do what we like and so we should, its a game.

Its those pesky game mechanics that are in the way of shooting robots. So those need to change. Because we certainly wont. This thread is a good indication of that.

If I want to shoot mechs only, dumb without any strategic meanings of holding or attacking planets, and tagging the planet, then I play PQ. If I want to level mechs - which was your decision to overpopulate Clan Jade Falcon - you should have chosen another faction or use PQ to level mechs. Nobody forces you to use faction war to level Kodiaks.

All in all, the blame is not about mechanics, it's about blaming yourself for making a (wrong) decision, which now backfires at your unit.

[BattleBunny]

straw man alert

[Spleenslitta]

CW or do you call it FW nowadays? it's like a mouse stuffed into a bottle and a cannibalistic mouse wants to get inside the bottle to feast.
They both defend/attack the bottleneck and sooner or later one of them is exhausted and loses.

It's like two hermit crabs wanting to occupy the same home...or snails for that matter. You get the picture. I tried CW when it came out and when i participated in about 10 CW matches i knew how all the rest of my CW matches would be.

They would become predictable slugging matches that's outright boring to be in. Such ridicilous waiting times for a match that is mental torture to get through?

[Michal R]

The biggest problem of NA time play is that they all in Jade Pigeon.
And the most players are in corpo unit.
When MS goes to IS they stop play CW.
Never see them to get a planet on IS side.
But on Clan side MS accuse IS that they don't wan't to play againt them.
Men you are hypocrite.

You want a match? Go steiner and play against 228 and KCom, Evil.