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[JC Daxion]

You know the funny thing is, I haven't even noticed a single Decal in game.. To me the entire system is all about people that want to make In game movies.. macha-ma or what ever the heck it is called..




My OFF_SWITCH is blasting um off!

[Nightshade24]

Mazzyplz, on 19 July 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

this is the google image search for the words: BATTLETECH FASA ARTWORK.

https://goo.gl/Q6Jy6F


and this is the google image search for the words: BATTLETECH MINIATURES.

https://goo.gl/g2hSD8



show me where the mechs that look like rage comics or the carebears are.


stuff like this doesn't show in any of the battletech artwork released not any of the previous mechwarrior games.
no tabletop player ever painted a mech like that.
a writer of the novels can be the biggest hack in the world. i don't really care for what they come up with if it doesn't gel with the fictional universe or is not even practical.

the main or base color of a mech would be something that serves to recognize a friendly, like a uniform in war. unless it is solaris if this was 3050.

naturally since this is a game we can accept there would be solaris paint jobs mixed in. like we accept clan + IS on the same team. that doesn't matter,

but to make the decals look like rage comics or the carebears or lego is just a slap in the face.
i don't play a videogame to remind me that i am on the internet and 'there be trolls'.
i play a game with cool graphics and an interesting concept CAUSE IT'S INTERESTING!


i think the main thing that needs to happen is that it shouldn't paint over the cockpit
that's not nose art or body art, it's like a parade float or a moving billboard. it's trolling.

Show you? well the decal in the back of this could be consider as goofy as the smiley face.

Which the non... um... "Flag"? Pennant?... um... Roundle?... I am bad with these military names...
The insignia version of that is just a hand in that position.
That was one right above the selected image you linked me too.

Going much more further down... the Heavy Metal in hot pink with speakers around its head...




Also... you stating that the novels are bogus?... I thought they were considered a highly canon source besides specific series made by specific writers. Heck I am pretty sure since we got one of the writers writing our hero mech fluff that basically made them canon (Spirit bear... What ever that night gyr hero is... etc) and what is written in the books is just as important as what is on the table. Because the table is just mechs pew pewing at each other. The books and novels writes the wars, battles, and history.

And I am still sure that there is a Insignia for a merc group that had a yellow smiley face much like our own but it has an arrow pointing out like a triangle. I tried to find it on camospecs.com and stuff like that but as soon as I started looking for mercs rather half the displaying ones have no assigned insignia or there is many sub branches I have to look through 1 by 1... tried googling for unit/ merc/ pirate/ faction insignias on google but the best I get is the 20 clans and the 5 IS houses and occasional St Ives compact....
I mean seriously, in the past few decades of battletech no one ever thought about having at least most of the insignias categorized somewhere?
Beyond that I can't say much more really then besides the fact that who needs decals when a fith of your mechs are more goofier then any rage comic in existence...

Yeoman... Blood kite... You two specifically I am looking at you.

I don't come to MW: O for rage comics either. (despite the fact the closest thing we got to a rage comic in MW: O right now is probably the house stiener logo if anything. But I know what you mean.)
I don't want hats on my atlas I do not want to see those 20 million MW: O kodiak carebear artworks online to become any truer.
I want a (as much as BT can get) serious decals in my stompy mech game.
I do not want the 'emoji' faces removed however I do wish for the ability to have a more restricted decal system so that people do not just slap it onto their mechs in that way. the urbanmech example I did above is bearable (I guess, I personally would have made it white but I made it yellow to stand out in this screenshot instance and better comparison).
I an impressed with all the IS minour groups like the black hearts and stuff having their own insignias but I am woundering why the only 4 clan decals are the 4 invasion ones... what about any of the other clans?... alpha or beta galaxes?... anything?

[JadePanther]

Crimson Angel, on 19 July 2016 - 02:33 PM, said:

Aposiopesis, on 19 July 2016 - 02:34 PM, said:

My concern is withhow bad the decals look, texture wise, and how indiscriminately they can be placed. The Jester is ridiculous and I absolutely love that thing, because it LOOKS GOOD and the texture quality is a uniform. Look at this crap:


The smiley face decal is just this blob of texture over the lines of the mech that doesn't keep any of the shape or lines of the mech. The decals don't behave the same way under lighting. It just looks terrible.

And how are they just plastered/painted over the cockpit like that? Again, that just looks like amateurish bush league ********.

Wait so they are allowing us to completely obscure the cockpit with these things?? does this mean that the only time people get headshots anymore we can legitimately claim they are hacking?

[Bishop Steiner]

JadePanther, on 19 July 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

Wait so they are allowing us to completely obscure the cockpit with these things?? does this mean that the only time people get headshots anymore we can legitimately claim they are hacking?

Or know the geometry?. Past a couple hundred meters it's all adarblob anyhow, you just learn where in that dark blob to aim.

[Sagamore]

JadePanther, on 19 July 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

Wait so they are allowing us to completely obscure the cockpit with these things?? does this mean that the only time people get headshots anymore we can legitimately claim they are hacking?

They should really have the cockpit show through the decal like this FRR loyalty skin

[Baphomech]

Just let it go, guys. I thought Pokemon Go was bizarre for the first few days, but then I realized being a grouch over it wasn't worth the energy. I stopped caring. There are a multitude of other things in this world more worthy of your ire than silly images on digital mechs. Just stop caring, and you'll feel better.

[Bishop Steiner]

Sagamore, on 19 July 2016 - 08:48 PM, said:

They should really have the cockpit show through the decal like this FRR loyalty skin

yes it's a good thing that see through window graphics have been lostech since the 21st century....


at any range past facetank you aren't headshotting by the actual outline of the cockpit anyhow.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 19 July 2016 - 09:00 PM.

[Navid A1]

I'm still waiting for bishop to post a functioning military vehicle with the pilot window/canopy bein completely obscured with a gigantic smiley face.


The thing is you are twisting the argument. Smiley faces are perfectly fine.... as F*ing DECALS.
You should not have the possibility to cover the entire torso of a mech with them.
All you were showing so far were cool CAMO PATTERNS.

Show me a decal that covers the entire body of a plane and then we'll talk.


Also there is the way they are implemented. They look cheap.. like untextured default pink diffuse collor on unfinished models

Edited by Navid A1, 19 July 2016 - 09:37 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 19 July 2016 - 09:33 PM, said:

I'm still waiting for bishop to post a functioning military vehicle with the pilot window/canopy bein completely obscured with a gigantic smiley face.


The thing is you are twisting the argument. Smiley faces are perfectly fine.... as F*ing DECALS.
You should not have the possibility to cover the entire torso of a mech with them.
All you were showing so far were cool CAMO PATTERNS.

Show me a decal that covers the entire body of a plane and then we'll talk.

I already posted several. Only twisting is yours. Heck just above is a robot with a giant Conan camo job. But somehow that's not absurd. Or giant robot teddy bears. Friend, if want to start an anti-absurdity movement, you picked the wrong game and IP.

Stay salty. Giant robots r serious Ibanez after all.

Now I feel the need to make all my mechs as absurd as possible just to enjoy the nerd rage.

[ShoeKush]

Kangarad, on 19 July 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

I shall start with only using nnight or heatvision to negate the bad decals.

They're in the damned nightime too? THOSE DECKLES!!!

Ninja Argument Edit: If people can turn them off there is no reason to pay for them.

Edited by ShoeKush, 19 July 2016 - 09:48 PM.

[Navid A1]

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2016 - 09:40 PM, said:

Now I feel the need to make all my mechs as absurd as possible just to enjoy the nerd rage.

I'll take a break from the game untill everyone can have their fun with smiley faces. Then everything would be normal.

Only thing decals had for me is that i know i won't spend a single cent on MWO from now on... and my play time would be limited to how far i can suffer the visual torture in game.

[Yellonet]

Navid A1, on 19 July 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

People demanded decals such as unit insignias, numbers, and shapes to put on their mechs in a classy way.

They did not asked for huge smileys over cockpit windowsand gun barrels

So who would make up this art police that would decide if specific uses of decals were "classy" enough to be used?

[ShoeKush]

Navid A1, on 19 July 2016 - 09:55 PM, said:

Only thing decals had for me is that i know i won't spend a single cent on MWO from now on... and my play time would be limited to how far i can suffer the visual torture in game.

Get it through every one of your tiny skulls. This is not a ******* business you're investing in. This is a movie theater, or a strip club. They took your money then, now we say GET OUT. Such is life.

Edit: Post justifying edit. I am so tired of people muddling this game up in development hell. This new patch was a welcome and hillarous change of pace to the game.

You could always leave Pug Que and join a Lance. *Best Clan Voice* Fight for Summerset like in your pathetic Mechwarrior TV show.

PGI I WILL LEAVE THIS GAME UNLESS YOU ADD A HATCHETMAN

Edited by ShoeKush, 19 July 2016 - 10:13 PM.

[Nightshade24]

Dakota1000, on 19 July 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

Top one seems average but the bottom one brings a smile to my face.

I see what you did there and I both love and hate you for it. Take my like and get away please.

Bishop Steiner, on 19 July 2016 - 07:22 PM, said:

um actually these emoji mech do and have happened in Battletech.

We have a Locust covered in dolls and a gold anodized Battlemaster in Camachos Caballeros. A Banshee with clown paint and a giant Jester Cap in the Eridani Light Horse, and much much worse in Solaris. And that's without even trying.

All lore. All "real Battletech" bro.

Relax and shoot some mechs, man.

Never said Emojis never happened. I said they never happened like this.
Find me a single image of where a mechs entire cockpit glass is painted, I do not care if it's with a smiley face or is just flat out painted white because the rest of the mech is white.

The only thing is though do not post me a Blood Kite image, apparently nearly everyone have no idea where the cockpit is and so many have painted them wrong to the point I do not know what is right or wrong anymore.

[Templar Dane]

[Bishop Steiner]

Navid A1, on 19 July 2016 - 09:55 PM, said:

I'll take a break from the game untill everyone can have their fun with smiley faces. Then everything would be normal.

Only thing decals had for me is that i know i won't spend a single cent on MWO from now on... and my play time would be limited to how far i can suffer the visual torture in game.

Cool story.


Enjoy your vacation.

Stompy Intrawebz Space Robits. Seriuz Biznez.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 19 July 2016 - 10:47 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Nightshade24, on 19 July 2016 - 10:11 PM, said:

I see what you did there and I both love and hate you for it. Take my like and get away please.



Never said Emojis never happened. I said they never happened like this.
Find me a single image of where a mechs entire cockpit glass is painted, I do not care if it's with a smiley face or is just flat out painted white because the rest of the mech is white.

The only thing is though do not post me a Blood Kite image, apparently nearly everyone have no idea where the cockpit is and so many have painted them wrong to the point I do not know what is right or wrong anymore.

And having the canopy painted matters...cuz?

Not like windshield graphics aren't already a thing... now? See above post about seriuz biznez. *smh*

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 19 July 2016 - 10:49 PM.

[ChapeL]

These guys

[Bishop Steiner]

ChapeL, on 19 July 2016 - 10:50 PM, said:

These guys

dood dats a seriuz biznez paintzjob, so dats OK

[KinLuu]

The decals are badly made. Badly interact with the mechs geometry. Badly interact with the games lightning system.

They look horrible. Thats what is the real problem for me.