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[Mcgral18]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

Why don't you think PGI has released any new light's lately? Could it be they loose a bunch of players everytime a new light mech hits the field PWNING everyone with 900+ scores and multi-kills per match?

[dervishx5]

Whatcha gonna do with that small laser, urbs?

[Wintersdark]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

And that person will end up having a ball of a time playing a My Little Pony MMO, whats your point?

I'd totally play a MLP MMO. Just sayin'

[dario03]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

Why don't you think PGI has released any new light's lately? Could it be they loose a bunch of players everytime a new light mech hits the field PWNING everyone with 900+ scores and multi-kills per match?

Actual reason...

FupDup, on 11 August 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Maybe the reason is because light mech packs sell massively lower quantities than other weight classes. Heavies in particular sell the most, hence why damn near every pack is a heavy these days...

One of the key reasons that light mechs sell so few units is because it's a weak class, meaning that only a handful of die-hard specialists even bother to use them.

[Deathlike]

Wintersdark, on 11 August 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

I'd totally play a MLP MMO. Just sayin'

Oh noes.

The bronies unite.

[Wintersdark]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 11 August 2016 - 07:04 PM, said:

Or could it be that lights suck and don't sell because of it.

If they were good, they would sell like the Kodiak.

This.

I'm a whale, absolutely, but I hated the $80 mech packs because they had a minimum $20 tax because I despise lights. I'd have bought way more packs if not for that (for example, clan wave 1 and 2, both of which I bought individual mechs rather than the packs purely because of lights (and mediums, in some cases).

So, yeah, I think it's highly likely they don't make anywhere near as much money on Light packs.

Few like lights, and even if you do: At $20/mech class (big pack or small) the cash:cbill conversion is no where near as good as it is with big mechs. The Kodiak pack was a huge haul for $20, while if you could buy, say, an Arctic Cheetah pack for $20 it'd get you far less value (currency wise).

[Deathlike]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

I hear that Pirates Bane is among one of the all-time top sellers actually(and is suggested to many new players as a first purchase), so that argument doesn't quite hold water.

It's the worst purchase if you don't know wtf you are doing in a Lolcust.

That's generally a lot of players these days.

Edited by Deathlike, 11 August 2016 - 07:16 PM.

[Mcgral18]

And isn't it amusing that Mr "Lights totally OP bro" hasn't played a single match in either Season 1 or 2 of the leaderboards using one of these super powerful robots?

But at least he has a KDr of 1...that means he isn't a Terribad, right? Right guys?

Edited by Mcgral18, 11 August 2016 - 07:16 PM.

[Deathlike]

Mcgral18, on 11 August 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

And isn't it amusing that Mr "Lights totally OP bro" hasn't played a single match in either Season 1 or 2 of the leaderboards using one of these super powerful robots?

But at least he has a KDr of 1...that means he isn't a Terribad, right? Right guys?

Well, my stats are inflated (for "this season") because I have to carry one too many Assault scrubs in the solo queue.

I apologize for carrying.

[Wintersdark]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

I hear that Pirates Bane is among one of the all-time top sellers actually(and is suggested to many new players as a first purchase), so that argument doesn't quite hold water.

I call BS.

Hear what you like, I can count the number of times I've seen two Pirate's Banes in a match on one hand, but after the Kodiak release most matches featured a minimum of *5* Kodiaks. I see way more Phoenix Hawks than I ever did PB's.

The PB (lolcust PB) is also just a Hero, and was never available via pack purchase. This DOES mean, however, that:

1) It's been on sale several times
2) It has a very low MC cost, as MC cost for hero's is based on tonnage.

So...

yeah.

You're flailing hard here.

[InspectorG]

Deathlike, on 11 August 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

It's the worst purchase if you don't know wtf you are doing in a Lolcust.

That's generally a lot of players these days.

Real Locust pilots are into the 'S' and 'M'....

[Revis Volek]

Wintersdark, on 11 August 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

This was one of the few things I really lost my s**t about, back in the day.

1) Guy runs 6ac2 JM6-DD with a staggerfire macro
2) People think this somehow does more damage than just group firing 6ac2 (because they are utter, hopeless idiots)
3) Paul nerfs AC2's. Several times.

... all the while, AC2's where never good weapons.

This once again goes back to my post, they dont know their own game, dont play it, dont understand the mechanics being used in it and asking them to stay in the loop about it is nigh impossible.

Let alone doing things like changing mechanics and code, if they cant even be bothered to learn how the gameplay itself works properly then why would we have any faith in them to even attempt to fix it?

I have given up and am unfortunately just getting real close to uninstalling and moving on. HBS game can't come out soon enough.!!!

I have seen better balance, better game play and more depth playing Pokemon GO with my 8 and 11 year old nieces around town then i have seen in this game since day one.

Niantic makes PGI look like children and they made a Google App game not even a real PC title....

[Deathlike]

InspectorG, on 11 August 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Real Locust pilots are into the 'S' and 'M'....

I've been running the ACH pretty religiously. Firestarter would be the alternative, but "it decided it wanted to be a Medium". Lolcust is for people that are truly bored with life, and want to go down with a boom.

Oh well.

[Revis Volek]

Wintersdark, on 11 August 2016 - 07:12 PM, said:

This.

I'm a whale, absolutely, but I hated the $80 mech packs because they had a minimum $20 tax because I despise lights. I'd have bought way more packs if not for that (for example, clan wave 1 and 2, both of which I bought individual mechs rather than the packs purely because of lights (and mediums, in some cases).

So, yeah, I think it's highly likely they don't make anywhere near as much money on Light packs.

Few like lights, and even if you do: At $20/mech class (big pack or small) the cash:cbill conversion is no where near as good as it is with big mechs. The Kodiak pack was a huge haul for $20, while if you could buy, say, an Arctic Cheetah pack for $20 it'd get you far less value (currency wise).

Its just funny, they set it up so that i have LESS buying power by converting my money to MC. I get MORE if i keep my money as is and not turned into premium currency.

This just seems dumb to me and for example the KDK, i can get 3 for $20 and a hero add on for $35 or i can covert my money to MC and get only the HERO for the same price.

and then, i have to ask, why would a company devalue there own in game currency? Would'nt it pay to have your dropping $50 in MC and then only being able to use like $58 of it forcing you with a few hundred MC left over to Re up and make them MC pennies useful?

Just seems bass ackwards to me....but then again....if its not Russ' idea its bad for the game.

Edited by Revis Volek, 11 August 2016 - 07:28 PM.

[Deathlike]

Revis Volek, on 11 August 2016 - 07:25 PM, said:

Its just funny, they set it up so that i have LESS buying power by converting my money to MC. I get MORE if i keep my money as is and not turned into premium currency.

This just seems dumb to me and for example the KDK, i can get 3 for $20 and a hero add on for $35 or i can covert my money to MC and get only the HERO for the same price.

Well.. that's inflation or deflation for you... in a game that has no real economy. Ironic yes?

[Drunken Skull]

Face it, light's are wrecking player retention big time, and "git gud" isn't the answer. Make all the excuses you want, but it wont change the status quo, which is people quitting because of foul play. PGI have nobody to blame for this but themselves for the following reasons;

1. Maps too Small for Speed boats.

2. No game modes for speed boats, meaning they're only goal is to troll larger mechs that are slower than them.

3. Promoting a troll mentality as "the way of the light mech pilot", with game tips instructing exactly how to troll the enemy if using a light mech during the beginning of a match.

4. Attempting to buff light mechs so that they can perform in a trollish manner against superior mechs successfully.

You know in your heart what you're doing is wrong, rely on PGI's Trolltactics rebuttal "I'm just playing the game", cause yes you are, your'e doing it just like PGI told you to....

Edited by Drunken Skull, 11 August 2016 - 07:34 PM.

[Deathlike]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

Face it, light's are wrecking player retention big time, and "git gud" isn't the answer. Make all the excuses you want, but it wont change the status quo, which is people quitting because of foul play. PGI have nobody to blame for this but themselves for the following reasons;

1. Maps too Small for Speed boats.

2. No game modes for speed boats, meaning they're only goal is to troll larger mechs that are slower than them.

3. Promoting a troll mentality as "the way of the light mech pilot", with game tips instructing exactly how to troll the enemy if using a light mech during the beginning of a match.

4. Attempting to buff light mechs so that they can perform in a trollish manner successfully.

You know in your heart what you're doing is wrong, rely on PGI's Trolltactics rebuttal "Im just playing the game", cause yes you are, your'e doing it just like PGI told you to....

This sounds like you don't know how to play the game?

[Revis Volek]

Deathlike, on 11 August 2016 - 07:27 PM, said:

Well.. that's inflation or deflation for you... in a game that has no real economy. Ironic yes?

There is demand but there is no drop in availability so it isn't inflation by definition.


There is also not a surplus of these goods (mechs) around anywhere because they dont make then daily they are digitial goods. So the price cannot go down because the market has been flooded. SO it isnt Deflation by definition either.


In order for that to exist they would have to have an economy like a place we could buy and sell mech we owned to each other where we cause deflation but we could never cause inflation they are in no worry of RUNNING OUT of KDK's.

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

Face it, light's are wrecking player retention big time, and "git gud" isn't the answer. Make all the excuses you want, but it wont change the status quo, which is people quitting because of foul play. PGI have nobody to blame for this but themselves for the following reasons;

1. Maps too Small for Speed boats.

2. No game modes for speed boats, meaning they're only goal is to troll larger mechs that are slower than them.

3. Promoting a troll mentality as "the way of the light mech pilot", with game tips instructing exactly how to troll the enemy if using a light mech during the beginning of a match.

4. Attempting to buff light mechs so that they can perform in a trollish manner successfully.

You know in your heart what you're doing is wrong, rely on PGI's Trolltactics rebuttal "Im just playing the game", cause yes you are, your'e doing it just like PGI told you to....

You have no idea what you are talking about and really need to stop spouting off misinformation.


Also the reason I dont play as much as is because all the mechs i liked (light and mediums) have been ruined to the the Whine Brigade and Russ.

Lets not paint PGI with such a wide brush, there are many bright minds there doing exactly what they are told with brilliance and to 100% accuracy. But when your puppet master is nothing but a run away puppet yourself you dont get good direction.

Edited by Revis Volek, 11 August 2016 - 07:37 PM.

[Deathlike]

Revis Volek, on 11 August 2016 - 07:33 PM, said:

There is demand but there is no drop in availability so it isn't inflation by definition.


There is also not a surplus of these goods (mechs) around anywhere because they dont make then daily they are digitial goods. So the price cannot go down because the market has been flooded. SO it isnt Deflation by definition either.


In order for that to exist they would have to have an economy like a place we could buy and sell mech we owned to each other where we cause deflation but we could never cause inflation they are in no worry of RUNNING OUT of KDK's.

That's not quite what I meant.

The "value" of MC hasn't changed in the sense that Mechbays cost more or less... but more in the sense that what you can do with it compared to the mechpack deals. That has probably gotten to a critical mass due in part of the Kodiak (CXL400 for starters) how PGI has been structuring their mechpacks. By comparison, something like the Viper or Phoenix Hawk for the same pricing isn't as enticing with the same amount of real cash. This is before we talk about "value" when it comes to mech costs in terms of MC.

[dario03]

Drunken Skull, on 11 August 2016 - 07:30 PM, said:

Face it, light's are wrecking player retention big time, and "git gud" isn't the answer. Make all the excuses you want, but it wont change the status quo, which is people quitting because of foul play. PGI have nobody to blame for this but themselves for the following reasons;

1. Maps too Small for Speed boats.

2. No game modes for speed boats, meaning they're only goal is to troll larger mechs that are slower than them.

3. Promoting a troll mentality as "the way of the light mech pilot", with game tips instructing exactly how to troll the enemy if using a light mech during the beginning of a match.

4. Attempting to buff light mechs so that they can perform in a trollish manner successfully.

You know in your heart what you're doing is wrong, rely on PGI's Trolltactics rebuttal "Im just playing the game", cause yes you are, your'e doing it just like PGI told you to....

A lot of that sounds like stuff that is hurting lights.

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1. Maps too Small for Speed boats.

Yeah so all that speed doesn't actually matter a lot of times.

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2. No game modes for speed boats, meaning they're only goal is to troll larger mechs that are slower than them.

Yeah so again hurting lights not helping. And how are they trolling???

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3. Promoting a troll mentality as "the way of the light mech pilot", with game tips instructing exactly how to troll the enemy if using a light mech during the beginning of a match.

Again, how are lights trolling? How is shooting a mech in the rear trolling? Is it just lights that aren't allowed to back shot or all mechs? Do you never back shot mechs?

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4. Attempting to buff light mechs so that they can perform in a trollish manner successfully.

What buffs? They just increased the size of a lot of lights and one of the few that got a little bit smaller lost half its quirks where as most that got a lot bigger didn't get any quirks added. Also the ACH just got nerfed...for the third or forth time. And have you checked the quirks on the mechs? Do I need to post the Firestarter vs Grasshopper quirks again? I'll give you a hint...The Grasshopper has much more and they are much better.

So again... How are lights trolling?

Deathlike, on 11 August 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:

This sounds like you don't know how to play the game?

Heck I would say it sounds like he is the one trolling.