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Next Meck Pack Poll Discussion! Updated Choices And Dev Comments! Escalation Mechs Removed!


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#1501 Rekkon

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 08:38 AM

My biggest disappointment with the Sun Spider is that it was not 60 tons, specifically to shore up that tonnage slot gap.

#1502 Will9761

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

The Stone Rhino, the descendant of the Matar/Amaris' Folly, would be a powerful beast if it were to be introduced in MWO.
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Stone Rhino (Behemoth)

Stone Rhino 1 (Standard)
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Pulse Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - Gauss Rifle
Left Torso - Gauss Rifle
Right Arm - Large Pulse Laser
Left Arm - Large Pulse Laser

Engine: 335 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 2847
Estimated Hardpoints
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Stone Rhino 2
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - AMS
Center Torso - Jump Jet
Right Torso - Gauss Rifle
Left Torso - Gauss Rifle
Right Arm - 1x Heavy Small Laser, 1x Heavy Medium Laser, 1x Heavy Large Laser
Left Arm - 1x Heavy Small Laser, 1x Heavy Medium Laser, 1x Heavy Large Laser
Right Leg - Jump Jet
Left Leg - Jump Jet

Engine: 335 XL = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3061
Estimated Hardpoints
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Stone Rhino 3
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - Jump Jet
Right Torso - 1x ATM6, 1x ER Micro Laser
Left Torso - 1x ATM6, 1x ER Micro Laser
Right Arm - 2x Large Pulse Laser
Left Arm - 2x Large Pulse Laser
Right Leg - Jump Jet
Left Leg - Jump Jet

Engine: 335 XL = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3068
Estimated Hardpoints
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Stone Rhino 4
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - 1x Ultra Autocannon/10, 2x LRM10
Left Torso - 1x Ultra Autocannon/10, 2x LRM10
Right Arm - 2x ER Medium Lasers, 1 Machine Gun
Left Arm - 2x ER Medium Lasers, 1 Machine Gun

Engine: 335 XL = 54 KPH
Debuted: 2846
Estimated Hardpoints
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Stone Rhino 5
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - 2x LB 5-X AC
Left Torso - 2x LB 5-X AC
Right Arm - 3x ER Medium Lasers
Left Arm - 3x ER Medium Lasers

Engine: 400 XL = 64 KPH
Debuted: 2846
Estimated Hardpoints
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Stone Rhino 6
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - ER Small Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - 7x Medium Pulse Lasers
Left Torso - 7x Medium Pulse Lasers
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - N/A
Right Leg - Jump Jet
Left Leg - Jump Jet

Engine: 400 XL = 64 KPH
Debuted: 2999
Estimated Hardpoints
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Edited by Will9761, 12 February 2018 - 06:19 PM.


#1503 Will9761

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 10:31 PM

I can see some good viable variants from the Charger, but I still want my Hatamoto though. But if both were released side by side as mechpacks, I'd be happy.
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Charger Variants

Charger CGR-1A1
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - Small Laser
Left Torso - Small Laser
Right Arm - Small Laser
Left Arm - Small Laser

Engine: 400 STD = 84 KPH
Debuted: 2665
Estimated Hardpoints
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Charger CGR-1A5
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - Medium Laser
Right Torso - AC/20
Left Torso - 2x SRM6
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - N/A

Engine: 320 STD = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3023
Estimated Hardpoints
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Charger "Challenger" CGR-SB
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Medium Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - Large Laser
Left Torso - Large Laser
Right Arm - Large Laser
Left Arm - Large Laser

Engine: 240 STD = 54 KPH
Debuted: 3025
Estimated Hardpoints
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Charger CGR-1A9
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - LRM 20, Medium Laser
Left Torso - Medium Laser
Right Arm - Medium Laser
Left Arm - Medium Laser
Right Leg - 2x Jump Jets
Left Leg - 2x Jump Jets

Engine: 320 STD = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3034
Estimated Hardpoints
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Charger CGR-SA5
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - ER Medium Laser
Center Torso - LBX-20 Autocannon
Right Torso - LBX-20 Autocannon, ER Medium Laser
Left Torso - ER Medium Laser, MASC
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - 2xStreak SRM6

Engine: 320 LFE = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3063
Estimated Hardpoints
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Charger CGR-2A2
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - N/A
Right Torso - 2x Rocket Launcher 10s
Left Torso - 2x Rocket Launcher 10s
Right Arm - Medium Laser
Left Arm - Rocket Launcher 10

Engine: 400 STD = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3064
Estimated Hardpoints
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#1504 Will9761

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:38 PM

I know that I've said this time and time again, but now the the new clans like the Nova Cats and Diamond Sharks get to have their totems and faction mechs, it's time for the Steel Vipers to get theirs as well. The Steel Viper mechs do have some good variants.

Battle Cobra
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Battle Cobra IS Version- On a side note, PGI should sell the IS variant along with its Clan counterpart as a mech pack, similiar to the Arctic Wolf's BattleMech and Omnimech variants and use it as the basis to make the other IS Omnis.

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Vapor Eagle (Goshawk)
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Black Python (Viper)
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#1505 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 03:40 PM

Removed the Blood Asp from the poll.

#1506 Will9761

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 09:38 PM

Hey Gas, can you add in the Kuritan-made No-Daich? It does have appropriate timewise variants and doesn't really need a sword based on its weapons.

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No-Dachi

No-Dachi NDA-1K
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Medium Laser
Center Torso - SRM4
Right Torso - MRM 20
Left Torso - MRM 20
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - ER PPC, SRM2

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3058
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2K
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - 1x ECM
Right Torso - MRM 10, Medium Pulse Laser
Left Torso - MRM 10, 2x Medium Pulse Lasers
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Large Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3059
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2KO
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - Medium Pulse Laser, Flamer
Right Torso - 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Medium Laser
Left Torso - 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Medium Laser
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - Large Pulse Laser, Medium Pulse Laser, Small Pulse Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3060
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2KC
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Flamer
Center Torso - Medium Pulse Laser, Small Laser
Right Torso - 2xMedium Pulse Lasers
Left Torso - ER Medium Laser, 2xMedium Pulse Lasers
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - Large Pulse Laser, Medium Pulse Laser, Small Pulse Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3067
Estimated Hardpoints
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#1507 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 10:07 PM

View PostWill9761, on 01 February 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

Hey Gas, can you add in the Kuritan-made No-Daich? It does have appropriate timewise variants and doesn't really need a sword based on its weapons.

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No-Dachi

No-Dachi NDA-1K
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Medium Laser
Center Torso - SRM4
Right Torso - MRM 20
Left Torso - MRM 20
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - ER PPC, SRM2

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3058
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2K
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - 1x ECM
Right Torso - MRM 10, Medium Pulse Laser
Left Torso - MRM 10, 2x Medium Pulse Lasers
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Large Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3059
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2KO
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Small Laser
Center Torso - Medium Pulse Laser, Flamer
Right Torso - 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Medium Laser
Left Torso - 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, ER Medium Laser
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - Large Pulse Laser, Medium Pulse Laser, Small Pulse Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3060
Estimated Hardpoints
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No-Dachi NDA-2KC
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - Flamer
Center Torso - Medium Pulse Laser, Small Laser
Right Torso - 2xMedium Pulse Lasers
Left Torso - ER Medium Laser, 2xMedium Pulse Lasers
Right Arm - N/A
Left Arm - Large Pulse Laser, Medium Pulse Laser, Small Pulse Laser

Engine: 350 XL = 84 KPH
Debuted: 3067
Estimated Hardpoints
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So... I would rather not because I have left off melee-centric mechs from the poll.. it would be inconsistent to add them now... How many variants came with a sword?

#1508 Will9761

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 10:25 PM

As far as I'm concerned, all the sword will be is just a decoration bolt-on. It can hold its own without a sword anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. After all, the Black Knight Partisan had an axe in cannon, and that was turned into an AC/20 to compensate.

Edited by Will9761, 01 February 2018 - 10:25 PM.


#1509 Kasumi Sumika

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 01:20 AM

Congratz for Blood Asp voters your dreams comes true!

Tbh I rather have Vapor Eagle or Stooping Hawk first.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:07 AM

So I think I asked before, but any chance we'll see the Clint and Clint IIC added to the list? Personally I believe that they'd be solid MWO mechs and I'd love to see them added.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:11 AM

Question:

Was Thanatos the number one heavy when it was released for the IS? Was Hellspawn the number one medium for IS when it was released?

Because they were both IMO, pretty bad choices. Now that opinion is subjective, I know. But I think Blood Asp was #1, as the Clan assault, and it was just selected.

So what gives with mech selection by PGI, is it strictly #1 only per slot, or is there a greater method to the madness?

#1512 Metus regem

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:54 AM

Hey Gas, Thug?

I mean Shinypants did a fantastic take on it:

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#1513 Kanil

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:33 AM

View PostMarauder3D, on 02 February 2018 - 10:11 AM, said:

So what gives with mech selection by PGI, is it strictly #1 only per slot, or is there a greater method to the madness?

Post CW Escalation, I believe every 'mech has been leading it's category. It's possible I've misremembered, but I doubt any of them were worse than #2.

Given that IS Light is the category with the longest time since last release, you should perhaps be bracing yourself for the Hollander... with a back up plan of Owens. Oh boy.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:55 AM

View PostKanil, on 02 February 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

Post CW Escalation, I believe every 'mech has been leading it's category. It's possible I've misremembered, but I doubt any of them were worse than #2.

Given that IS Light is the category with the longest time since last release, you should perhaps be bracing yourself for the Hollander... with a back up plan of Owens. Oh boy.


My God, how bad would those two mechs be in MWO. And would they actually lock the SHS in the Owens?

/shudder

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 01:02 PM

Bane (Kraken)


http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bane_(Kraken)
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Production information

Manufacturer Tokasha MechWorks Alpha, Olivetti Weapons
Production Year 2827[1]
Model Prime
Class Assault
Cost 22,500,000 C-bills

Technical specifications

Mech type Clan
Mass 100 tons
Chassis Type AXT, Mk. XX
Armor Forging C745
Engine Fusion 300 Fusion Engine - XL
Communications System Unknown
Targeting Tracking System Unknown
Heat Sinks 10 Double Heat Sinks
Speed 54 km/h
Armament 10x Ultra Autocannon/2s 4x Machine Guns

Edited by SOL Ranger, 02 February 2018 - 01:10 PM.


#1516 Y E O N N E

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 02:23 PM

View PostWill9761, on 01 February 2018 - 10:25 PM, said:

As far as I'm concerned, all the sword will be is just a decoration bolt-on. It can hold its own without a sword anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem. After all, the Black Knight Partisan had an axe in cannon, and that was turned into an AC/20 to compensate.


It didn't initially have that AC/20, that was added after the forum complained about its initial configuration being garbage.

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 03:08 PM

How can you guys make a judgment whether a mech will be good or not from those silly Sarna drawings?

#1518 Metus regem

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 03:25 PM

View PostNRP, on 02 February 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

How can you guys make a judgment whether a mech will be good or not from those silly Sarna drawings?



Alex whom does the initial art for the mech, takes the official TT art (99% of the time it is from the TRO, Bushwacker is a notable deviation, as it takes TRO cover art) as a base line for what he does, then makes it fit the MWO feel. Going from the official art from TT, does take some assumptions on our parts, but those assumptions are based on how game mechanics work, as well as knowledge of how stock mech builds look in the record sheets.

For instance with the Uziel, I had said that it would have hill humping issues, based on the distance between cockpit and shoulder mounts, that issue would revolve around getting XL checked before it could return fire.... and we all saw how that turned out, if they try to hill hump, they get XL checked.

When it came to the Bushwacker, I said she could tank like a boss from the front and be XL friendly from the front, but flank her and she is all ST... just like the game model turned out to be.

All of that was based on educated guessing with knowledge of how the miniature looks, some 20 years of TT experience, Sarna art and some trial and error in MWO.

#1519 Y E O N N E

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 03:26 PM

View PostNRP, on 02 February 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

How can you guys make a judgment whether a mech will be good or not from those silly Sarna drawings?


Because there are fundamentals about a 'Mech that don't change.

#1520 Will9761

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 04:14 PM

Hey Gas, Any chance the Yu Huang could get added to your poll? It's House Liao's first true 90-ton Assault Mech.

Yu Huang
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Yu Huang Variants:

Yu Huang Y-H10G
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - ECM
Right Torso - 3xER Medium Lasers
Left Torso - 3xER Medium Lasers
Right Arm - Gauss Rifle
Left Arm - ER Large Laser, Beagle Active Probe
Right Leg - 2xJump Jets
Left Leg - 2xJump Jets

Engine: 320 XL = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3060
Estimated Hardpoints
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Yu Huang Y-H9G
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - 10 LRM
Right Torso - LB 20-X AC
Left Torso - N/A
Right Arm - LBX 20-X AC
Left Arm - ER PPC, Medium Pulse Laser, 2xMedium Lasers
Right Leg - 2xJump Jets
Left Leg - 2xJump Jets

Engine: 320 XL = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3060
Estimated Hardpoints
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Yu Huang Y-H9GB
Weapons and Equipment:
Head - N/A
Center Torso - LRM 10
Right Torso - N/A
Left Torso - N/A
Right Arm - Ultra AC/20
Left Arm - Large Laser, 3xMedium Pulse Lasers
Right Leg - 2xJump Jets
Left Leg - 2xJump Jets

Engine: 320 XL = 64 KPH
Debuted: 3068
Estimated Hardpoints
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Edited by Will9761, 12 February 2018 - 06:12 PM.






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