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[Atticus Cross]

New to the game. Bought my first bundle day before yesterday. Played through the event (which for a newbie I found quite tough), but got my rewards and was pumped to see who won. Never even considered there may be an 'everyone loses' scenario. Can't believe a game developer would do that to it's playerbase.

Think I'll spend my few hard earned dollars somewhere else from now on.

[Ishii]

dominikabra, on 17 October 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

Still can't believe the news, at first I thought it was a joke. The clans pummel IS all weekend-long and that counts for nothing when there's a last minute effort by the IS side that makes them recover some of the progress bar. As has been stated before, each victory should account for one point and in the end, the score determines the victor.

That being said, if the clans don't win, IS wins. I say give them their Mauler (I'm a clanner myself), or give us the Mist Lynx. I don't buy this "in real war nobody wins" thing. It feels really cheap.

When everybody else feels ripped-off, maybe not everybody else is wrong, PGI?

I apologize for my English. I agree with your statement. They deserve mauler, @PGI, give it to them.

[B0ll0]

Why do they deserve it? For loosing 4 days but winning a few games ?

The rules for winning should be defined before next event.

[Ishii]

B0ll0, on 18 October 2017 - 12:35 AM, said:

Why do they deserve it? For loosing 4 days but winning a few games ?

The rules for winning should be defined before next event.

If you ask me, it was sarcasm.

[Laser Kiwi]

Well the whole FP thing is nonsense anyway, lets say i knew EVIL or KCOM for example were on luthien, i wouldn't be defending luthien (cause i'm a snivelling coward that hates dying over and over), i'd be attacking some other planet and trying to cut off their supply chain by sending good units to defeat second line units, oh darn i said good so i would be on luthien after all, anyways. The funny thing is that the tendrils in the map mean that the clan advance would be unsustainable, units would be chasing each other all over the place and there would be no consolidation of the clans gains because the corridors of the advance are narrow and indefensible.

As for do the IS deserve the draw?, sure, clans must have bid too few forces and run dry at the end of the fight.

However the problem I have is Lore based, if we have mercs in the clans (using clan tech lol, like the clans would let them keep it and then when they change sides they mysteriously can't drop in it no more) and 12 v 12 and all that and aren't respecting Lore or even hinting at 'reality' (you know what i mean), why the hell don't we just have mixed tech and be done with it. We can have different chassis, but forget all this other stuff and lets start jamming those XL clan engines and clan endo in our marauder 3r's and boating clan er large lasers and clan heat sinks and bugger the rest, or do we just like bitching about imbalance ad nauseam. Then at that point unbind clan xl engine sizes so omnis can change while your at it.

Then the only difference is skill which clans historically had the edge in and probably do in MWO as well, hard point placement and hard point capacity. Either that or implement some convoluted battle value system (yeah good luck with that).
I enjoyed the event by the way, 10 million for free and a bunch more from the matches and thousands of loyalty points, its all good. And the matches were mostly good natured too, we were in for a hiding and hardly anybody rubbed it in all event long so the sportsmanship was there.

[DangerousOne]

PGI where is my Mauler? On the page about results of the event you've written - "PYRRHIC VICTORY". As long as you admit that it was victory, why IS pilots didn't get their "victory prize"?

Edited by DangerousOne, 18 October 2017 - 01:19 AM.

[Laser Kiwi]

Laser Kiwi, on 18 October 2017 - 01:06 AM, said:

As for do the IS deserve the draw?, sure, clans must have bid too few forces and run dry at the end of the fight.

Nah i'm kidding we got wiped, but i'm happy with the draw regardless.

[ARM32]

IS objectives - HOLD. Clan objectives - TAKE. how it can be "no one wins"? ok, if IS hold 50% and clans take 50% - it's both sides got so to win, but - "each side stupid and gets loss" -> who own planet? Ghosts of the past? Orcs? Street lamppost? Who THAT scary to make IS run away and same for clans? Mercs? ok, give to each merc in this fight and lynx and MEOWler... Cuz it's NO OTHER SIDE on a conflict...
#Darckmagic
#Sarcasm

[Mallorn Windstrider]

The thing to remember is that neither Clan nor IS 'won'. The 'win' conditions in the progress bar are pretty clear at either end of the scale.

I was playing up to the last minute as an IS player and I saw that the IS Invasion scale started moving back up in the last couple of hours and the scouting scale moved down. My guess is that a lot of IS players were doing scouting to ensure the 150 score for their 12 games and then switched to Invasion once they had reached the 12 games completed.
This then put a larger number of more experienced player into the IS side towards the end of the event (I'm meaning players that have limited time during the day to spend in game rather than the full time players) while the Clan side got more complacent due to the 98%+ that the Invasion scale had been for a large portion of the event and didn't keep playing until the last minute (my only 150+ Invasion 'Win' games were in the last 2 hours and previous to that most of the IS Invasion matches were significant losses, i.e. clan tech walkovers, hence my concentrating on Scouting to get the 150+ scores before spending time on Invasion).

[Ishishi]

Planetary Bombardement now?

I want the Long Tom back...something devastating please.

[Commander A9]

If there was no winner, why can Clans not attack a second time? Why is that door closed?

Because by preventing a second Clan attack, that gives the victory to the Inner Sphere, but Inner Sphere was not properly rewarded.

Pyrrhic Victory is still victory, so give the IS their Mauler, and then admit to the player base that the victory conditions were grossly stacked against the Clans. The stance you've currently adopted, PGI, is irresponsible. You can't have this both ways and still keep the player base happy to play your game.

[Captain Caveman DE]

so.. clans clubbing IS every single day --> no win
IS winning their last stand, crushing clans, keeping their capital --> no win

what the eff..?

tbh, I don't care for the mech, keep it. but declaring both teams losers is kinda bad.
and it's also bad for you; SO much goodwill to be had, with just a little gesture, but no...

-does anybody know some kind of sport or hobby where a tie (however you get to -that- in the first place) is considered a both-sides-lose?

if you want to offend your customers.. the last few days you're doing a great job at that.
energy"balance", anni-debuff, hopper-debuff and now that.. *sigh*

[Dogsoldier1]

3-4days of event to just get 12 games with 150 match score, scouting counted so I ended up doing that .
Got the event done in what 2hours maybe? then have fun with mates.

U get 10mil + a mechbay , so what if there are no winners, U still got Free millions of Cbills t+ a mech bay !!!


Having fun with friends it all what the game is about, play stompy robots instead of asking tons of free stuff

[Gruntykins]

Was really lookin forward to that Mauler. Guess we didn't hold the planet hard enough.

[A sebaceous cyst]

This is just pure crap! If it is a tie then give everyone their mechs...treating everyone like loosers after the hours they spent playing this event is just **** poor treatment! PGI you guys really know how to make your community mad

[Ulvar]

For real PGI?

You messed up the start of the event and gave no response to the players for hours.
You don't apologize for that and now all players lose despite the fact that the meter showed 100% clan all the time every time i looked?

In case you forgot, events are supposed to be enjoyed by the players you made them for.
If I where you I would admit that errors where made while planning and executing the event and give the winning reward to everybody.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Unacceptable. Clans pummeled IS the whole event. Give them their win and prize. Calling it a Tie is an insult to all Pilots InnerSphere and Clan alike.

We lost don't make it anymore embarrassing for us.

Fix the damn balance so we can actually stand a chance in one of these events instead of everyone loses thanks for coming out.

[Ukabix]

I love the narrative setting of this event. PGI, please keep it up. Maybe go a bit deeper and post youtube weekly newsflashes from the community warfare front with decent, immersive commentary?

I played a lot during the weekend (+40 invasion matches) and I saw a lot of new players trying faction warfare for the first time. I would like to congratulate these fine young Clan mechwarriors that, despite being sometimes a real PITA due to obvious lack of experience or communication, in many cases we have managed to rally and even score a few wins as the clear underdogs. I hope to see you from the other side next week.

And of course minus points for the event kick-off going bonkers.

Edited by Ukabix, 18 October 2017 - 04:58 AM.

[ccrider]

Dear Coordinator appreciate you showing up clanner dogs. Farm pugs all weekend, complain when mighty Dragon farm clan pugs in last hours. Too bad Dragon not rock; Clanners good at bashing rocks, not so good at bashing mighty Dragon's ancestral home.

[KlLLJOY]

This is garbage.

There's a possibility of a tie? Who's brilliant idea was that PGI?

Keep your free mech then, you stingy bean counters. While you're at it, why don't you keep the 4 million cbills as well?

Since neither side "lost", nor did they "win", they don't deserve either reward right, right?

IS kept the clans from taking Luthien, so what kind of logic is this that they don't get the Mauler?

The Clans dominated the event and smashed the IS to pulp all throughout the event, hitting the 100% mark, so what kind of logic is it that they don't get the Mist Lynx?

I guess we're all losers for playing this game.

Issue an apology and give everyone on both sides the free mech, how hard is that?

Edited by KlLLJOY, 18 October 2017 - 05:30 AM.