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[a gaijin]

You's ain't allowed to have fun in FP unless you's is a smoker. Smoker's group up and drop together.

No non-smokersz allowed in FP!!!!!!!!

[naterist]

a gaijin, on 21 January 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

You's ain't allowed to have fun in FP unless you's is a smoker. Smoker's group up and drop together.

No non-smokersz allowed in FP!!!!!!!!

my man.

stoned fw > drunk fw

[ccrider]

I really wanted to drown this thread and kill it but I die a little every time I read anything in it. Carry on, I'm gonna go do a full soul cleanse and see if I can clean up whatever was written here from my being.

Edited by ccrider, 22 January 2018 - 12:22 AM.

[Windscape]

marcusmaximus55, on 21 January 2018 - 09:22 PM, said:

hey windscape and mischeifSC whats yer view on pawg "games" please let community know on front page of general discussion

Actually, if you go waaaaay back to page 3, you will find some of my thoughts on the matter

Edited by Windscape, 21 January 2018 - 11:33 PM.

[Spam Lanwalker]

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[Burning2nd]

lol it has nothing to do with new players..

First off its the whole 45min thing.. most people dont want to be locked in to a game for 45 min
then there is the hole mega nerd thing that comes with FW.. which is the people who played to much board game and have mech stick figure draw on there basement walls (seriously no one wants to talk to someone who thinks they are the mech commander )
then there is the problem *well not so much a problem but the issue of spawn camping.. getting rolled (proper team Work) against people who just want to solo drop

They say its more directed to dedicated team work.. when in reality its dedicated to exploit..

Ive been here since day one.. and its been broken since day one... had nothing to do with patch releases

[C H E E K I E Z]

How has this thread not been closed yet? lol

[Roland09]

C H E E K I E Z, on 22 January 2018 - 02:19 AM, said:

How has this thread not been closed yet? lol

Mods crumpled beneath their desks, dead from a fit of laughter?

[TWIAFU]

MischiefSC, on 21 January 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

Someone help me understand -

Drop with or against him, you will then understand everything you need to MsC.

[TWIAFU]

Samial, on 21 January 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

There is zero tutorial for faction war..
There is no fun doing faction war..
And getting stomped by elitist morons while they berate you in chat on how bad you are is what you enjoy no wonder the crap is dead..

The rewards are also garbage when you have to deal with the above, enjoy a dead FP i'm done with it..

Thank god.

[TWIAFU]

Samial, on 21 January 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

Yes keep posting the same ego badge and wonder why you sit and wait 20 minutes for a match... [Redacted]

Hmmm....


Who is the [Redacted] here? The one that pays attention to that warning and understands what it means or the one that reads the warning, understands what it means, and yet still drops solo and blames everyone and everything else for their choice?

Keep blaming Groups for playing the the group queue. You get what you deserve.

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[Phoolan Devi]

Wing 0, on 17 January 2018 - 10:06 PM, said:

Ash has pointed this picture LOUD and CLEAR. Honestly, This complaining about Faction Play farming crap is getting really old. Ive played this mode since DAY 1 and this only happens if you don't play aggressive period. I've been seeing trial mechs on field and players not carrying their own weight. I've seen kiddies on BOTH SIDES of the field not doing jack and scoring below 1k or even below 400 damage against teams. Those players are not taking appropriate builds for Faction Play and are not playing with teams.

Lets say for example, Boreal Vault and the team I'm with is defending. We killed the enemy's first wave 12-5 or so. Do you think were just going to just sit back at the gun and wait for the next push? Nope. Were going to do a preemptive strike against your next wave and maybe farm a few extra kills in the process. The price players pay for botching up in a fight.

If you still don't get it at this point. maybe you came to the wrong place.

#letthefarmingcontinue

Your "point" is mute since as defender in siege, as well as dkirmish mide, there is no other way to end the game as to kill all enemies!

Farming refers to those stupid gameplay as where the whole team waits an extra 5-10mins in order to farm every mech even though they could've ended the game long ago. This stupid farming "tactic" is not onky wasting everybodies time but is even just ineffective! The always promoted reason given, to maximize the matchscore/loyalty points is just stupid since the gain is so thin, it definitely doesn't justify the cost of extending the game up to 10mins.

I for one will never farm and will not let myself being farmed. Let those little farmer boyz search for me until the end of the game. Hopefully they forget to fullfill the objectives due to their stupidity!

#farmerboysarelame

[TWIAFU]

Phoolan Devi, on 22 January 2018 - 05:12 AM, said:

Farming refers to those stupid gameplay as where the whole team waits an extra 5-10mins in order to farm every mech even though they could've ended the game long ago. This stupid farming "tactic" is not onky wasting everybodies time but is even just ineffective! The always promoted reason given, to maximize the matchscore/loyalty points is just stupid since the gain is so thin, it definitely doesn't justify the cost of extending the game up to 10mins.



#farmerboysarelame

If a "team" is going to sit way in the back of the map, poking at max ranges, LERMing from the base/DZ, and generally play QP with respawn with QP mechs and QP tactics, I will gladly use that stupidity against them.

If I notice standard QP 'tactics' in CW, I will also use that against them to maximize my chances to win.

I will further use habit and human nature to my advantage and exploit it against them to maximum effectiveness.

I will continue use map knowledge and common/default loadouts for maps to maximize my attack or defense strat.

It is great fun to use all that against my enemy and love it when they throw me a curve ball that I didn't see coming.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

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[Phoolan Devi]

TWIAFU, on 22 January 2018 - 05:28 AM, said:

If a "team" is going to sit way in the back of the map, poking at max ranges, LERMing from the base/DZ, and generally play QP with respawn with QP mechs and QP tactics, I will gladly use that stupidity against them.

If I notice standard QP 'tactics' in CW, I will also use that against them to maximize my chances to win.

I will further use habit and human nature to my advantage and exploit it against them to maximum effectiveness.

I will continue use map knowledge and common/default loadouts for maps to maximize my attack or defense strat.

It is great fun to use all that against my enemy and love it when they throw me a curve ball that I didn't see coming.

I'm all with you on the points you made but you as well as I know that that is not meant when the OP asks for farming to be stopped.

marcusmaximus55, on 22 January 2018 - 05:48 AM, said:

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[Starwulfe]

Phoolan Devi, on 22 January 2018 - 05:12 AM, said:

This stupid farming "tactic" is not onky wasting everybodies time but is even just ineffective! The always promoted reason given, to maximize the matchscore/loyalty points is just stupid since the gain is so thin, it definitely doesn't justify the cost of extending the game up to 10mins.

Just to point out the flaw here, if you spend an extra 10m to get 3x the reward, I'd say that's worth it. It maximizes the reward for the time spent.

[Johnathan Tanner]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 22 January 2018 - 06:12 AM, said:

[Redacted]

(warning long post on serious note)

This thread is not unique in the FP section anymore. Pretty much all threads go this way here these days. I mean besides the comedy gold of Marcus and his message of PAWG.

Go back about 20 months in this section, Its full of unit rivalry's and ACTUAL faction war stuff. Since having our mode gutted to just the skeleton of what we had in phase 2 tho, There is literally almost nothing to talk about. FP veterans are bored and generally pessimistic about the future of the mode now.

I completely agree that the new player experience is truly awful these days. When I was new I had a faction TS to go to and network with people and learn stuff from. (These are mostly inactive now)

There used to be in every faction TS, These guys who were just kind of general drop callers who would take anybody willing fight. Those guys are mostly gone now, It takes alot of patience to herd cats day in day out. I did it for 2 years. And idk about the others, But my goals were more than just winning the match. I wanted to advance my factions goals overall. If at the end of an attack phase I could lean back in my chair and see a another dot turned purple, it made the frustration of listing to people tell me to shut up and that their lurm boat on grim portico was good after I called lazor vomit worth it.

Phase 3 was the turning point, single attack lanes were designed to limit the power projection of OG mercstar as were unit coffers being used to recruit new members. Both back fired spectacularly, with a single attack lane you could only engage 1 factions population and once the planet was blued out it usualy meant the majority of the fighting was over.

Unit coffers to recruit failed because it affected smaller units many of which were fairly casual and didnt have fat stacks of cbills sitting around while big and long established units had billions to burn.

The voting system failed because it gave power over the attack lane to hoards of pugs who would never attack a planet anyway, just defend and get wreked, Further denying factions the ability to advance there goals. It was also very easy to game the voting system, I know it happened during the BNB CGBI war. Scouting made it so small pop factions were wasting their time fighting high pop ones. You had to detail heavy hitting players to contest the scout queue taking them out of the main fight, Or ignore it and go for the pie slices and risk the bot controlled ggclose bomb oneshoting entire waves.


Wow typing this made me feel like a house Marik officer again, And I just realized how much Ive been typing.

TL;DR The new player experiance is broken because FP is broken at every level from neglect and apathy from the developer. Just have fun in your matches guys, We are literaly just playing quick play with respawns now.

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[Phoolan Devi]

Starwulfe, on 22 January 2018 - 06:45 AM, said:

Just to point out the flaw here, if you spend an extra 10m to get 3x the reward, I'd say that's worth it. It maximizes the reward for the time spent.

Your flaw is you think you get 3x the reward but you are not! How much more damage do you think you make if 12 ppl are shooting one mech? It's really miniscule!

[K O Z A K]

I like quickplay with respawns, quickplay with respawns is fun, plus you get some different maps

[Phoolan Devi]

Hazeclaw, on 22 January 2018 - 09:13 AM, said:

I like quickplay with respawns, quickplay with respawns is fun, plus you get some different maps

In the beginning I liked it too. Now I think it was the worst idea ever.

Every time a siege map comes on, one has to tell the most simplistic rules of FP over ans over again and there will always be more than one special snowflakes who think they know better. Not even counting all those who do not know how to shoot gens.