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[Bombast]

Samial, on 03 March 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

Me or PGI.. I wouldn't know where to start..data wise..

Ask the ISEN guys. They have all the data pulled down, shouldn't take too much effort to do some data collection from it.

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I stopped playing my MG piranhas because they are ruining the game for others.. and well the laser piranhas were DOA at release..

You should really stop baiting the people who check stats.

[Devilsfury]

Dont tell the truth because fanboys cant hand it. That mech is one of the most OP mechs ever created. Its stupid!

[Bombast]

Devilsfury, on 03 March 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

Dont tell the truth because fanboys cant hand it. That mech is one of the most OP mechs ever created. Its stupid!

A truth so objectively true that it can only be conveyed through anecdotal ramble.

[Devilsfury]

Bombast, on 03 March 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

A truth so objectively true that it can only be conveyed through anecdotal ramble.

So says the fanboy. Anyone who has see or played that mech knows 100% that its broken but paid for it and want to keep their OP, zero skill toys.

[Bombast]

Devilsfury, on 03 March 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

So says the fanboy. Anyone who has see or played that mech knows 100% that its broken but paid for it and want to keep their OP, zero skill toys.

I don't have one. I also don't fear them.

But if you want to maintain your illusion of 'It killed me so it's OP,' than so be it.

[Devilsfury]

Bombast, on 03 March 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

I don't have one. I also don't fear them.

But if you want to maintain your illusion of 'It killed me so it's OP,' than so be it.

Let me guess, you can kill them 100% of the time and they have never killed you. /roll eyes Try telling that to the Indians.

[Y E O N N E]

Oh, so things are only not-broken now if they never, ever kill you and if you can kill them 100% of the time, now?

[Zergling]

I play all weight classes, and I honestly do not have a problem fighting enemy Piranha.

And I haven't even bothered putting any effort into the game in the last 2 months. Piranha are just hilariously fragile and easy to kill.

Edited by Zergling, 03 March 2018 - 09:48 PM.

[Bombast]

Devilsfury, on 03 March 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

Let me guess, you can kill them 100% of the time and they have never killed you. /roll eyes Try telling that to the Indians.

Hell no. My aim is atrocious. It's a good day when I can kill a Jenner, let alone a Piranha. I have killed a few, but only the ones driven by people who quite obviously haven't figured out lights yet. Don't stand still guys.

But I know how to survive them, and I shared it on the first page of this thread - Stay with the group. Ask for help. And stop driving the slowest thing in your mechbay. Good Piranhas wont even try to engage you most of the time if they think you'll be supported, and bad Piranhas are, well, bad, so you should be ok.

[Blind Baku]

Assault mech tears fuel my LCT. Please go on.

The failure is not the Piranha. The Piranha has a ton of flaws: Knife Fighter almost exclusively, it is friggin huge for a light, you say tunnel vision - try piloting one of them (seriously one of the most claustrophobic cockpits), any other than the MG one heat up so fast... etc...

As far as LIGHTS go, once the magic wears off they will still be baller, just the nature of the shape of the mech, that said it is still just a light mech. Learn the circle of mechs dude Lights<Mediums<Larges<Assaults<Lights<etc...

[Y E O N N E]

Piranha is not huge by any standard.

[Dogstar]

Bombast, on 03 March 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

I'm going to be honest - I keep forgetting the Banshee is in this game.

Me too

and I'm surprised that it lacks any arm hardpoints at all, that's a major disadvantage particularly for an assault

then again I've yet to hear anyone complain about getting ambushed by lights in a Banshee, it's usually the Dire Idiot pilots who are the biggest whiners

Edited by Dogstar, 04 March 2018 - 01:30 AM.

[TWIAFU]

Devilsfury, on 03 March 2018 - 09:29 PM, said:

Dont tell the truth because fanboys cant hand it. That mech is one of the most OP mechs ever created. Its stupid!

Like that big target you have painted on your back for all Light pilots to aim at?

I am looking for it.

[PocketYoda]

Bombast, on 03 March 2018 - 05:48 PM, said:

Ask the ISEN guys. They have all the data pulled down, shouldn't take too much effort to do some data collection from it.




You should really stop baiting the people who check stats.

What stats i have not used my piranhas since the event? If stats are telling you otherwise those stats are inaccurate.. I still use light mechs though not my Piranhas.

Who is ISEN?

Devilsfury, on 03 March 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

So says the fanboy. Anyone who has see or played that mech knows 100% that its broken but paid for it and want to keep their OP, zero skill toys.

Its actually not the mech itself its the mass amount of Machine guns it can boat murders everything.

Bombast, on 03 March 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

I don't have one. I also don't fear them.

But if you want to maintain your illusion of 'It killed me so it's OP,' than so be it.

So what you are saying is you are defending something you don't even own and have never used.. So you really have no idea what its like because you've never used the damn thing...

Edited by Samial, 04 March 2018 - 03:54 AM.

[Koniving]

The GaussFather, on 28 February 2018 - 09:02 AM, said:

Anyone else tired of the rinse and repeat Piranha attacks going on in QP? Or am I just a grumpy old guy who likes a fair game and enjoys piloting big robots with futuristic weapons?

Have you considered stepping on him?


And here's a basic visual tutorial of how to deal with the threat. The only other step I would add is if possible put your back to a wall. Here that would have been useless, so if the wall is not good enough to put your back to, this is what you do.

Note the throttle especially.

[Bombast]

Samial, on 04 March 2018 - 03:49 AM, said:

What stats i have not used my piranhas since the event? If stats are telling you otherwise those stats are inaccurate.. I still use light mechs though not my Piranhas.

Honestly, Samial, I've played with you - I don't need to check stats to know you didn't really ruin many, or any, Mechwarrior's games. Others may be inclined to check your stats since the drop of the Piranha (The light leaderboard) though to verify that.

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Who is ISEN?

The guys who actually check the math of their balance suggestions, rather then just complaining about stuff they personally can't deal with.

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So what you are saying is you are defending something you don't even own and have never used.. So you really have no idea what its like because you've never used the damn thing...

I don't need to put lit firecrackers up my rear to know it's a bad idea, and I don't need to spend 15 bucks to know how to deal with a light mech that is in virtually every one of my last 150 matches.

The idea that a person can only understand mechs they personally own or play is absurd, and I suspect you know that.

Edited by Bombast, 04 March 2018 - 04:44 AM.

[The_Dane]

Tarl Cabot, on 28 February 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:

"Hugging" should cause scaling damage to both mechs. An Assault would have less damage done to it while the light has the damage done to it scaled up. That would alleviate most hugging attacks. Then even lights would need to be more cautious of their heavier team mates.

Love this idea.
When I was playing Warhammer 40K (Tau) my army's light vehicles had an enhancement you could add on called "anti-personel munitions"(?). They're basically one-shot claymores that would go off if the vehicle was being assaulted. Maybe something like that for MWO? Make it a one-shot that takes up slots in the legs?

Lights should be utilizing hit/run tactics, not have the ability to face tank an assault. If MWO had implemented actual physical attacks such as punching and kicking, then things would become interesting...

How awesome would it be to have the ability to punt a light?

[Strength Damage Cliff Racer]

All things considered, I'd love the lights to remain where they are.
Why? Because there are specialist mechs for the job. They are called "Streak boats". Then we add otherwise not that great "medium" mechs to the mix, which got enough agility to track lights.
Add arty strikes, pinpoint accuracy turrets, ammo explosions pretty much insta-killing you no matter what… also, last but not least, lights die easily to lucky shots with anything that does 12+ damage pinpoint.
I actually have to wear 5 armour points on the backs of my locusts simply so they could live through gauss shot up the arse.

[Strength Damage Cliff Racer]

One thing that begs for changes though? Escort mode. Jammers all around = immunity to streak boats which can't even dumb-fire their missiles. That means that lights get free buckets of chicken and I think they should actually work for them. And if your lances are particularly heavy, nothing you can do against swarm of locusts/piranhas/javelins taking full control over vital points.

[Y E O N N E]

Escort is not a picnic for Lights, either. They will always eat at least 10 damage from every turret and, when you are driving something that only has 20 points per torso, that's brutal.