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[Imperius]

Brain Cancer, on 16 March 2018 - 05:01 PM, said:

Because surely, ghost heat fixes everything.

Nah. Just make MGs spin-up and after a certain point, they start generating steady heat until hitting max ROF/heat load. That's not only a decent way to control MGs, it's actually a decent twist on tabletop's high-ROF-MG rule.

Hey that's the tried and true approach. When you constantly half balance the game. Why have any kind of high standard?

[Vedalithar]

This is the biggest exploit meta piece of **** mech ever released something needs to change

[Trenchbird]

Vedalithar, on 16 March 2018 - 05:45 PM, said:

This is the biggest exploit meta piece of **** mech ever released something needs to change

I'm already laughing.

IT'S A FREAKING TWENTY TON LIGHT. It literally takes like, 30 points of damage to leg it-and core it. "But Machine Guns are scaaaaaryyyyy" is why the hell you lose to it.

Edited by Catten Hart, 16 March 2018 - 06:16 PM.

[Imperius]

Catten Hart, on 16 March 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

I'm already laughing.

IT'S A FREAKING TWENTY TON LIGHT. It literally takes like, 30 points of damage to leg it-and core it. "But Machine Guns are scaaaaaryyyyy" is why the hell you lose to it.

Yup keep attempting to dismiss the issue. It's not going away. I won't look the other way I'm bored.

[Trenchbird]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

Yup keep attempting to dismiss the issue. It's not going away. I won't look the other way I'm bored.

Stupidity is a hard disease to cure. So is Timidity.

Telling people that going over to something and punching it in the face to make it go away will work if is the best I'm willing to do. Nerfing a chassis, that frankly is a glass cannon-and a really really distracting one, at that-is just pathetic.

Buff the Locust instead.

Edited by Catten Hart, 16 March 2018 - 06:24 PM.

[kuma8877]

I just challenge any of the PIR's detractors to do some work in one and prove how OP they are. It's the only way to be sure.

[Darian DelFord]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

Yup keep attempting to dismiss the issue. It's not going away. I won't look the other way I'm bored.

I seriously do not think you even know what the issue is. All you know, is there is a light chassis, that killed you because you were out of position and now your ticked about it.

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

Still an outlier that needs to be brought back in line.

Someone should gift him a piranha and then let him stream it live, so we can all watch him solo battalions of assault mechs solo

Edited by Darian DelFord, 16 March 2018 - 06:27 PM.

[Trenchbird]

Darian DelFord, on 16 March 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Someone should gift him a piranha and then let him stream it live, so we can all watch him solo battalions of assault mechs solo

What, and risk proving himself wrong? Nah. He'd just take the code and gift it to someone else or just say no because it would "Invalidate his credibility" or "Refuse to pilot OP trash" or something like that.

To be fair, most people would do that anyways. I wouldn't because I won't turn up a free mech or three, but that's besides the point.

[Trenchbird]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Sure do it I haven't even played since season 14 I think

You haven't played since Season 14?

Cool. Find the door please.

[Imperius]

Catten Hart, on 16 March 2018 - 06:40 PM, said:

You haven't played since Season 14?

Cool. Find the door please.

Numbers don’t lie that level of DPS is ridiculous

[Nightbird]

Sorry the nerf failed, I tried to help though! Pats back

[Brain Cancer]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

Numbers don’t lie that level of DPS is ridiculous

You should see how much DPS they get every time I have lock with ATMs.

Hint: It's not a positive number.

[Imperius]

Brain Cancer, on 16 March 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

You should see how much DPS they get every time I have lock with ATMs.

Hint: It's not a positive number.

Congrats on trying to dismissing it with your personal experience. Anyone here who is actually trying to talk about balance and not save their new found toy has pretty much agreed 12 MG is OP. Simple.

[Darian DelFord]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 06:49 PM, said:

Numbers don’t lie that level of DPS is ridiculous

You will have to show me the "numbers" Honestly i have not idea which numbers your talking about.... Me personally the only number I care about is 38. Thats how much it takes to One shot me.... dead in the water.. The other number is 32. .That is how much damage it takes to blow my leg to smitherines again pretty sure most 55+ tons mechs can do that in one shot. Heck I know some 35 ton mechs that can do that.

Now Most mechs 65+ tons or more can do that in one little alpha. So I am sorry if I have to sit there for 3 minutes to peel back ALL your armor and ALL your structure to kill you. If I have the time to do that..... well then go back to Tier 5 where you belong.

You have no idea what it takes to pilot a light. Lights are by and far agreed to require the most skill to play. Even ones with 12 MG's. It is not the easy mode that you think. But once again you own statements and stats have already proven, you have no experience in this current environment.

Lights have been tossed into the ground and ground up to they are not recognizable anymore. All because the assaults can't handle the fact that one on one, a mech a quarter their weight might actually have a chance to beat them. But throw a team mate in there who is competent and well there goes the light's chances.

Edited by Darian DelFord, 16 March 2018 - 07:28 PM.

[Brain Cancer]

Imperius, on 16 March 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

Congrats on trying to dismissing it with your personal experience. Anyone here who is actually trying to talk about balance and not save their new found toy has pretty much agreed 12 MG is OP. Simple.

It's the glassiest of glass cannons. If you don't shoot the most fragile target in the game (and yes, the Locust is more tanky than this), it will BRRRRT you a lot and you will fall down and die. Out of lights, it packs large amounts of firepower into a tiny package at high speeds. On the other hand, it singlehandedly has validated anti-light weapon systems as a serious thing for the first time in a long time, and it can't counter it's own nemesis or a well-aimed AC/20 round.

I'm a long time missile boater, first LRMs, now ATMs. Bullying lights before they get close enough to death hug you is a reflex when your main guns have a deadzone (or near to it), so it amazes me how often people just plain don't pay attention to lights, or in some insane reversal of this, chase the squirrel when they have neither a chance of catching it or it's close enough to hit them. I have to swat the damn things off my team on a regular basis. In an assault.

It used to be the circle of life, where lights were eaten by mediums who were outgunned by heavies who were blown up by assaults that got ganked by lights. Now the lights are dangerous- not just PIRs, but anything with a decent Clan MG loadout. You weren't really around for the renaissance of the Myst Lynx or ACH MG boating or any of that since y'know, you became a total forumwarrior. I have been. My only sadness is that they haven't evened out IS MGs to compete with Clan ones, so people actually realize that scrawny little fellow in the Locust will actually kill them to death rather than be mostly harmless from the front and some of the slower types get to have some fun with the dakka.

[Imperius]

Here lol this is funny tells me to play a light and he never ran an assault either .

Haha whatever.

https://leaderboard....d%0D%0AImperius

[PocketYoda]

Zergling, on 16 March 2018 - 03:44 PM, said:

Correction: they even feel it is unfair when a healthy light kills an already near-dead assault.

No see this is the issue light can kill anything with 12 machine guns its still 12 damage on top of the massive crit chance 12 damage in less than a second racks up.. insanely.. they are no longer using them to take out internals you can take off arms legs and core any mech at the front in seconds..

Honestly how people are not seeing this or are conveniently ignoring the facts is boggling..

Edited by Samial, 16 March 2018 - 07:31 PM.

[Imperius]

Samial, on 16 March 2018 - 07:30 PM, said:

No see this is the issue light can kill anything with 12 machine guns its still 12 damage on top of the massive crit chance 12 damage in less than a second racks up.. insanely.. they are no longer using them to take out internals you can take off arms legs and core any mech at the front in seconds..

Honestly how people are not seeing this or are conveniently ignoring the facts is boggling..

Yup ive watched enough youtube vids of this in action and they laugh hysterically at how broken it is. Those same people aren't here defending that though in their defense.

[Anton Fetladral]

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Yup ive watched enough youtube vids of this in action

Would be curious to see some of these vids I am in the "Piranha isn't that broken other lights just suck camp" but maybe you're right let's see the evidence

Edited by Anton Fetladral, 16 March 2018 - 07:37 PM.

[Imperius]

Anton Fetladral, on 16 March 2018 - 07:37 PM, said:

Would be curious to see some of these vids I am in the "Piranha isn't that broken other lights just suck camp" but maybe you're right let's see the evidence

I wouldn't even say they are super good pilots with them either.

That's just 3

Edited by Imperius, 16 March 2018 - 07:42 PM.