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[Darion Rothgarr]

Hazeclaw, on 20 March 2019 - 07:10 AM, said:

that kind of seems fair though no? Lights are extremely strapped for tonnage as it is, bringing an AMS on a light is a huge trade off for their already small offensive capability

edit: why the hell did clan 20s have twice the health of all other lrms before the patch? That makes 0 sense, but it does explain a lot

But a reason nonetheless. Do you want more fire power or do you want to survive longer? Better to have an option than none.

[Vxheous]

denAirwalkerrr, on 20 March 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:

Pretty sure you know who to ask (:

#thxchris

[Athom83]

Vxheous, on 20 March 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

No wonder the pre-patch LRM 80 clanboats with 3K missiles and neutral heat could just nuke through AMS.

Racerxintegra2k, on 20 March 2019 - 06:15 AM, said:

LRMs were perfectly fine before. )))))))))

Darion Rothgarr, on 20 March 2019 - 07:15 AM, said:

But a reason nonetheless. Do you want more fire power or do you want to survive longer? Better to have an option than none.

Before you had one; You added more firepower as the other option was just flat out impractical. Now, the second option is just as valid.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Hazeclaw, on 20 March 2019 - 06:50 AM, said:

All the people talking about losing players because free damage buttoners will leave are delusional. I don't think you understand how many people left and continued to leave the game over how frustrating lrms were.

Where were all of you when multiple playstyles that actually required ability to play and could be shot back at were nerfed into the ground

I'm not delusional i've been keeping tabs of people leaving every time a play style is crushed in the name of "balance" these changes have RUINED the community by alienating players. This is just the most recent and most obvious.

[Nightbird]

At least direct fire will be supreme now... oh wait, it was! I'm just amused that people thought the day before the patch it would be lurmageddon, and now it's like lums suck.

[Valdarion Silarius]

I like the LRM changes, but I do feel like AMS was over tuned a bit too much. If they removed the LRM missile health nerf and tweaked AMS values I'd think missiles would be in a good spot. Also think that AMS should be less effective against SRM's and MRM's/ATM's.

[denAirwalkerrr]

Racerxintegra2k, on 20 March 2019 - 07:26 AM, said:

I'm not delusional i've been keeping tabs of people leaving every time a play style is crushed in the name of "balance" these changes have RUINED the community by alienating players. This is just the most recent and most obvious.

Just a coincedence.

Edited by denAirwalkerrr, 20 March 2019 - 07:41 AM.

[Prototelis]

Hey, didn't you buy the UV around the same time den?

[denAirwalkerrr]

Prototelis, on 20 March 2019 - 07:41 AM, said:

Hey, didn't you buy the UV around the same time den?

Nope, like last month when WC MCs came in and there was sale.

[Prototelis]

denAirwalkerrr, on 20 March 2019 - 07:44 AM, said:

Nope, like last month when WC MCs came in and there was sale.

Lol, I know I was just making reference to that epic 2k game.

[Acersecomic]

Hazeclaw, on 20 March 2019 - 07:10 AM, said:

edit: why the hell did clan 20s have twice the health of all other lrms before the patch? That makes 0 sense, but it does explain a lot

Because IS LRMs travel in a bunch while Clan flies in a stream. Meaning AMS has more time to shoot at clan missiles than IS and achieve better missile kill results.

[K O Z A K]

Acersecomic, on 20 March 2019 - 07:56 AM, said:

Because IS LRMs travel in a bunch while Clan flies in a stream. Meaning AMS has more time to shoot at clan missiles than IS and achieve better missile kill results.

I get that, but under that logic why wasn't it progressive then? not 5s: 1hp, 10s: 1hp, 15s: 1hp, 20s: 2hp ?!?!

[Prototelis]

Because it was balanced around potato.

[John Bronco]

I'm betting it was a typo, or perhaps they had a scale and the field used to be integer.

Edited by BlaizerP, 20 March 2019 - 08:23 AM.

[denAirwalkerrr]

BlaizerP, on 20 March 2019 - 08:20 AM, said:

I'm betting it was a typo, or perhaps they had a scale and the field used to be integer.

No I specially asked few guys on that. It's correct.

[UMPA Viper]

Athom83, on 20 March 2019 - 06:30 AM, said:

"Underappreciated playstyle" ******* lol you are diluted mate.None of us have issues with LRMs as a weapon, especially when used how its supposed to. Our problems were how easy it was to abuse and the types of players that sat 600-800 meters from the fight in an assault mech and do nothing but stare at the back of a hill while the pretty red circle spins and closes around a red box, then click their mouse every once in a while.

Im not a lurms guy by no means. In response to your statement though , what about those assault mechs that lrm and end up with 700-1000 damage at end of match ? You still saying they dont contribute ? Lunacy. I cant count how matches i have been in that we won due to our lrm boats. Im a light pilot mostly , i go out and UAV the enemy team just for our lrm boats. Part of the game. Im sure you dont mind when your in a match and your lrm boat assault teamate that is sitting in the back ends up with 700-1000 damage and has 3 to 5 kills.

[Weeny Machine]

Nightbird, on 20 March 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

At least direct fire will be supreme now... oh wait, it was! I'm just amused that people thought the day before the patch it would be lurmageddon, and now it's like lums suck.

It is neither. Just wait and see till the number of AMS mechs gets back to normal

[Athom83]

UMPA Viper, on 20 March 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Im not a lurms guy by no means. In response to your statement though , what about those assault mechs that lrm and end up with 700-1000 damage at end of match ? You still saying they dont contribute ? Lunacy. I cant count how matches i have been in that we won due to our lrm boats. Im a light pilot mostly , i go out and UAV the enemy team just for our lrm boats. Part of the game. Im sure you dont mind when your in a match and your lrm boat assault teamate that is sitting in the back ends up with 700-1000 damage and has 3 to 5 kills.

Every single game I've seen an LRM assault get that high damage, its either A) in Faction play or they were up with their team, sharing their armor, and providing efficient fire support from 300-400m where its far less likely your lock will break before your LRMs impact.

And please re-read what I said. I never said they didn't contribute. The problem is, they either contribute a whole hell of a lot, or they contribute barely anything (usually the latter, but the former is still relevant enough that I will admit it happens)..And I never said ALL LRM Assaults, just the LRM Assaults that sit 700m+ from the fight occationaly clicking to hope they do some damage before the lock is broken.

[RickySpanish]

UMPA Viper, on 20 March 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Im not a lurms guy by no means. In response to your statement though , what about those assault mechs that lrm and end up with 700-1000 damage at end of match ? You still saying they dont contribute ? Lunacy. I cant count how matches i have been in that we won due to our lrm boats. Im a light pilot mostly , i go out and UAV the enemy team just for our lrm boats. Part of the game. Im sure you dont mind when your in a match and your lrm boat assault teamate that is sitting in the back ends up with 700-1000 damage and has 3 to 5 kills.

Bet you lost more with Assaults squirreling all that armour away on the backline sand blasting walls with missiles though. If one must run an LRM boat, at least don't fill an Assault slot with it.

Edited by RickySpanish, 20 March 2019 - 08:41 AM.

[Acersecomic]

UMPA Viper, on 20 March 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Im not a lurms guy by no means. In response to your statement though , what about those assault mechs that lrm and end up with 700-1000 damage at end of match ? You still saying they dont contribute ? Lunacy. I cant count how matches i have been in that we won due to our lrm boats. Im a light pilot mostly , i go out and UAV the enemy team just for our lrm boats. Part of the game. Im sure you dont mind when your in a match and your lrm boat assault teamate that is sitting in the back ends up with 700-1000 damage and has 3 to 5 kills.

I feel pitty for whoever was on the recieving end of that skumboat. That must have been so frustrating and completely ruining their enjoyment of the game and experience they are having with the product.