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Why Do Bolt-Ons Fall Off After One Measly Hit?


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#1 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 12:55 AM

Aren't they supposed to be a part of the component? Who designed it in such a way that a single laser destroys it?

#2 Feral Clown

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:01 AM

Working as intended. They are cosmetic nonsense and as the name implies...or rather states, they're bolt on's and not part of the mech.

#3 Shadowomega1

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:01 AM

Fragtastic, getting Tagged knocks them off!

#4 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:06 AM

View PostShadowomega1, on 03 July 2019 - 01:01 AM, said:

Fragtastic, getting Tagged knocks them off!


I know! It's stupid! Posted Image

I want chainsaws and the mohawk to stay on until the components they are attached to, fall off. If the LA falls off, then the left chainsaw should fall off. Why give a bolt-on a stupid hit-box and 1 hp?

#5 killkimno

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:08 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 03 July 2019 - 12:55 AM, said:

Aren't they supposed to be a part of the component? Who designed it in such a way that a single laser destroys it?




View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 03 July 2019 - 01:06 AM, said:


I know! It's stupid! Posted Image

I want chainsaws and the mohawk to stay on until the components they are attached to, fall off. If the LA falls off, then the left chainsaw should fall off. Why give a bolt-on a stupid hit-box and 1 hp?


1 hp? maybe it 0.001 hp like map object.

#6 Prototelis

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:18 AM

I love tagging all of the boltons off of friendlies lol.

#7 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:25 AM

View PostPrototelis, on 03 July 2019 - 01:18 AM, said:

I love tagging all of the boltons off of friendlies lol.


You sick, evil, twisted......

#8 Kiiyor

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:34 AM

I wish they stayed put. If you want to spend cash to bling your mech, the bling should at least remain attached if it's hit by a stiff breeze.

Also, if someone were to add nipple rings and a gimp mask for the Atlas, Kiiyor would spend some money.

#9 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 01:37 AM

What's puzzling me is why they gave bolt-ons their own hit-box and HP. They don't need either. It should be such that they stay on until the component that they're attached to, gets blown off.

#10 Feral Clown

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 03:01 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 03 July 2019 - 01:37 AM, said:

What's puzzling me is why they gave bolt-ons their own hit-box and HP. They don't need either. It should be such that they stay on until the component that they're attached to, gets blown off.


It's puzzling that you don't get why. Either PGI wouldn't sell any because it would increase the size of hitboxes or be used to shield.

It is working exactly how it should.

#11 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 03:26 AM

well.. sure it sucks for those who bought them with real money (do those people exist?)

otoh and in my personal opinion they don't really belong in battletech, at least outside of solaris (and there it's questionable, at least). kinda kills what little immersion we have when I see an atlas or anni with a club on the back, or a dinosaur-skull, or something, the lore-nerd in me rolls his eyes.

I won't complain, cause we can toggle them off, yay. Posted Image
just stating that they're just wasted dev-time imo.

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 03 July 2019 - 03:28 AM.


#12 FRAGTAST1C

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 04:15 AM

View PostFeral Clown, on 03 July 2019 - 03:01 AM, said:


It's puzzling that you don't get why. Either PGI wouldn't sell any because it would increase the size of hitboxes or be used to shield.

It is working exactly how it should.


No, it's puzzling as to why bolt-ons need a hitbox in the first place. You aim for the bolt-on, you don't do damage. Players would've instantly realized that. Then the bolt-ons would've been a cosmetic item worth buying 'cause they'd stay on through the fight as long as the components they're attached to, don't fall off. Now what we have a gigantic waste of money that serves no purpose 'cause in battle, if they get hit, the mech remains unharmed and the look is gone instantly.

#13 Nightbird

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 07:37 AM

They're supposed to serve no purpose in battle, it's a cosmetic item.

#14 YueFei

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:01 AM

View PostNightbird, on 03 July 2019 - 07:37 AM, said:

They're supposed to serve no purpose in battle, it's a cosmetic item.


But they kinda fail as a cosmetic item too because they don't stick around long enough for your admirers to.... admire? Posted Image

#15 Nightbird

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:03 AM

View PostYueFei, on 03 July 2019 - 09:01 AM, said:

But they kinda fail as a cosmetic item too because they don't stick around long enough for your admirers to.... admire? Posted Image


Decals and paint jobs also get burned off with the first hit?

#16 Armored Yokai

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:08 AM

Would be nice if there was a hologram feature where all projectiles just goes through it.

#17 MechaBattler

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:18 AM

If they didn't want it to add to the hitbox or act as a shield. Couldn't they just not have a hitbox at all? I get the feeling this was another one of those weird coding issues they couldn't work around.

#18 Nightbird

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 09:33 AM

View PostMechaBattler, on 03 July 2019 - 09:18 AM, said:

If they didn't want it to add to the hitbox or act as a shield. Couldn't they just not have a hitbox at all? I get the feeling this was another one of those weird coding issues they couldn't work around.


Would be worse if you couldn't shoot it off. If anything, it's more entertaining to have it fall off and took more work to make it happen as well (to add the hitboxes)

#19 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 10:16 AM

View PostFRAGTAST1C, on 03 July 2019 - 04:15 AM, said:

No, it's puzzling as to why bolt-ons need a hitbox in the first place. You aim for the bolt-on, you don't do damage. Players would've instantly realized that. Then the bolt-ons would've been a cosmetic item worth buying 'cause they'd stay on through the fight as long as the components they're attached to, don't fall off. Now what we have a gigantic waste of money that serves no purpose 'cause in battle, if they get hit, the mech remains unharmed and the look is gone instantly.


If bolt-ons just didn't take damage at all, then it'd be possible to ghost-tank with them. Some of the bolt-ons do a pretty good job of obscuring the component underneath, and not everyone actually knows where all of the hitboxes are on every 'Mech, so we'd end up with a lot of folks missing shots because they either aimed for the bolt-on, or couldn't see the component it was mounted on well enough to target it. While that's mostly a "git gud" problem, it still is a problem... or would be, anyway. Even if it's a marginal defense against only some players, it's one that would cost no tonnage and no slots, while also being paywalled. Sillier things have driven metas in games before.

I still have them on a bunch of 'Mechs, because some of them genuinely look good (thinking mainly of the Zeus fins, and the swords and hatchets on certain 'Mechs)... and some of them get funny reactions at the start of a match, if they look ridiculous enough.

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 10:45 AM

To give my TAG laser something to do.





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