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[Blockpirat]

Paul Inouye, on 19 July 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

I'll be creating a new thread for the Leaderboard discussion that has a need for your input. That thread will be put up on Monday.

That would have been 5 days ago. Still working on it?

[BROARL]

i'm so excited! i'm betting the new leaderboard will be EPIC.

[Nightbird]

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Edited by Tina Benoit, 06 August 2019 - 09:35 AM.
nonconstructive

[Sigmar Sich]

Paul, a question:

After Loyalist and Merc updates, are there any further plans for FP?
Would you consider to add some free mechs as a reward to loyalist trees? Redundant for veterans, but a bait for new blood.

Also, when Loyalist changes drop, can you please make another Tukayyid? Hopefully to kickstart CW again, or at least as a farewell party.
With multiple events per each clan trying to do their objectives, with players getting rewarded with totem mechs or mechs from ComGuard... And good old "Never forget" banners.

P.S. Can he be summoned without a human sacrifice ?

[BaronDeath]

Paul, as a word of encouragement for your articulation to your developers and stakeholders; Loyalty is the Best Loyalty. It is inherent and natural and is not entirely calculated by statistics, queries and inner joins. Thank you for your updates. Ghost Bears are hibernating. Other Loyalists are hibernating and acquiescing atm. It is all good for those with disciplined patience. Speaking for myself and especially other Clan Loyalists, I am eager to reflect the depths of intrinsic Arctotherium Loyalty.

[Paul Inouye]

Blockpirat, on 27 July 2019 - 07:28 AM, said:

That would have been 5 days ago. Still working on it?

My bad on this one. Forgot there was a date attached. I'll create it now. Here it is.

As for an update, the work is all moving ahead as planned. I've seen the internal build that has all pledged loyalties staying in place on all screen so yes, you could theoretically play for GhostBear while aligned to Kurita at the moment. This will change with the major update with all the Loyalist stuff in tact.

Edited by Paul Inouye, 02 August 2019 - 05:02 PM.
Added link to new post.

[Paul Inouye]

Sigmar Sich, on 01 August 2019 - 07:28 AM, said:

Paul, a question:

After Loyalist and Merc updates, are there any further plans for FP?
Would you consider to add some free mechs as a reward to loyalist trees? Redundant for veterans, but a bait for new blood.

Possible yes and is part of the consideration for the rewards in both Loyalist and Merc Unit paths.

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Also, when Loyalist changes drop, can you please make another Tukayyid? Hopefully to kickstart CW again, or at least as a farewell party.
With multiple events per each clan trying to do their objectives, with players getting rewarded with totem mechs or mechs from ComGuard... And good old "Never forget" banners.

You've studied the new system and have hit on how we'll be doing events like Tukayyid. And yes we will be doing grand scale events like this, just not scheduled yet.

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P.S. Can he be summoned without a human sacrifice ?

[Sigmar Sich]

Paul Inouye, on 02 August 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

And yes we will be doing grand scale events like this, just not scheduled yet.

Thank you!

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Possible yes and is part of the consideration for the rewards in both Loyalist and Merc Unit paths.

Is any help from the community needed for the mechs allegiance? Or do you have it covered?

UPD: If suggestions are being accepted, open this:

Spoiler

Previous iterations can be found here, here and here. Just for the record, ignore these links.

For now it is all throwing ideas to see what sticks. More information required about how many mechs should be there. 4. 5, 6, 10? And if you consider adding hero mechs as reward for a 20th rank.

Four mechs, the minimum. (skip, this is for misers)

Spoiler

Davion
1) Javelin JVN-10N
"The Javelin appears in almost every Federated Suns ’Mech regiment, with several formations employing dozens of them. "

2) Centurion CN9-D - here an further on, in most cases, mass produced modernizations of 3050 era will be chosen over their older models.
"The Centurion is considered the unofficial ’Mech of House Davion’s BattleMech forces"

Alternatively, it can be Enforcer or Dervish, the other very significant mechs in AFFS.

3) Jagermech JM6-DD
"Like the Enforcer, the JagerMech is a BattleMech that has long been fundamentally associated with House Davion and its Federated Suns."

Crusader will be a better fit, but alas...

4) Victor VTR-9B - older model is chosen because game doesnt have the Davion modernization, which is identical to VTR-9K.
"...the bulk of Victors are to be found in the Federated Suns, where they remain one of the AFFS’s primary assault ’Mechs..."

Kurita
1) Jenner JR7-K
"...the Jenner was a source of national pride for a single state, the Draconis Combine..."

Alternatively, Panther PTR-10K

2) Kintaro KTO-20 - since the game doesn't have any significant workhorse for DCMS in medium class. There are a Trebuchet and Wolverine models, but Kintaro feels more iconic.
"ComStar gave the Draconis Combine downgraded KTO-20 models..."

Alternatively, Crab CRB-20 or Wolverine WVR-7K.

3) Dragon DRG-5N, since game doesn't have the Grand Dragon.
"The Dragon appears in every Draconis Combine Mustered Soldiery battalion and in almost every company."

4) Hatamoto-Chi HTM-26T
"The Hatamoto-Chi has become one of the standard issue low-end assault BattleMechs of the DCMS"

Steiner
1) Commando COM-2D - since game doesn't have the newer model, COM-5S
"Despite a production span stretching back before the time of the original Star League, the Commando has remained a distinctly Lyran design."

2) Bushwacker BSW-X1
"Most of the Bushwackers in service belong to units of the Lyran Alliance,.."

Alternatively, Griffin GRF-1S, or an Uziel.

3) Thunderbolt TDR-9S
"Thunderbolts appear in heavy lances and even light assault forces. Houses Steiner and Marik are the ’Mechs primary users,.."

Alternatively, Thanatos TNS-4S, but it is too new.

4) Zeus ZEU-9S
"Lyran signature ’Mech"

Marik
1) Spider SDR-5V
"The Free Worlds League managed to secure the Spider’s technical schematics from the ruins of the Terran Hegemony"

2) Hunchback HBK-4G, since game doesnt have HBK-5M
"...the only Hunchback factory situated in Marik space, the ’Mech is also used extensively by the forces of the Free Worlds League."

3) Orion ON1-M
"...has been in production only in the Free Worlds League for centuries."

4) Awesome AWS-9M
"Free Worlds League controls the only surviving manufacturing plants capable of producing the Awesome, it also operates the largest amount of Awesomes of any of the Great Houses."

Liao
1) Urbanmech UM-R63
"Unlike the other Successor States, the Capellan Confederation maintains a large number of UrbanMechs in its front line forces. "

Alternatively, Raven 3L

2) Vindicator VND-1R
"The Vindicator is almost exclusive to the Capellan Confederation. "

3) Cataphract CTF-3L
"...the 3L variant made up twenty-five percent of all of the CCAF’s newly acquired heavy Battle Mech designs."

4) Charger CGR-1A5 - since there's no better candidate.
"Considering the desperate mindset of CCAF warriors, however, it was an acceptable variant to the Capellans. The CGR-1A5 variant was a Capellan modification."

FRR
1) Commando COM-1D - FRR using Commandos is mentioned in the Dragon article of TRO-3039. The older model seems a more logical candidate to supply a neighbor, IMO.
"Despite their mixed results in the past, the original 1D variant has maintained a regular, if low-profile, existence throughout the Commando’s history. "

2) Trebuchet TBT-7K - since no better candidate.

Alternatively, Wolverine WVR-6K.

3) Dragon DRG-1N.
"Because of its origins as a Combine district, the Free Rasalhague Republic uses the Dragon as well."

4) Zeus ZEU-6S - older model, mainstream for LCAF before the 3039.
"...it is not uncommon to see the Dragon fighting alongside, instead of against, Lyran-model BattleMechs like the Commando and Zeus. "

Mercenaries
Being an IS concept, will have IS rewards. Clans don't go mercs, most of the times.

1) Flea FLE-15 - the model of Wolf Dragoons, pre sharing design with Liao.

2) Shadow Hawk SHD-2H - very common mech everywhere, since no better candidate.

3) Thunderbolt TDR-9SE - bespoke mech of Eridani Light Horse

4) Annihilator ANH-1A - bespoke for Wolf's Dragoons.

Ghost Bear
1) Viper (prime) - since there's no iconic light mech, a small medium takes its place.

2) Stormcrow (prime) - a design secured from another clan.

3) Mad Dog (prime) - iconic heavy mech for bears.

4) Kodiak KDK-1

Jade Falcon
1) Kit Fox (prime) - iconic light mech for falcons.

2) Black Lanner (prime) - iconic.

3) Summoner (prime) - iconic.

4) Night Gyr (prime) - iconic heavy, since there's no iconic assault - falcons don't deploy assaults often.

Smoke Jaguar
1) Arctic Cheetah (prime) - secured from another clan.

2) Ebon Jaguar (prime) - since no iconic mediums.

3) Warhawk (prime) - iconic

4) Direwolf (prime) - secured from clan Wolf, became an iconic partner to the Warhawk.
Very fat rewards, but no better candidates.

Wolf
1) Adder (prime) - iconic for another clan (not present), but heavily used by Wolf.

2) Ice Ferret (prime) - iconic

3) Timber Wolf (prime) - iconic

4) Gargoyle (prime) - heavily used, almost iconic

Diamond Shark
1) Piranha PIR-1 - iconic

2) Nova (prime) - not very iconic, but no better candidate

3) Hellbringer ( - mentioned to be used by sharks, since no better candidate.

4) Mad Cat MkII MKII-1 - the manufacturer.

Nova Cat
1) Arctic Cheetah (E) - mentioned user, since no better candidate

2) Shadow Cat (prime) - iconic

3) Nova Cat (prime) - iconic (totem?)

4) Supernova SNV-1 - iconic

Steel Viper
1) Mist Lynx (prime) - smentioned user

2) Vapor Eagle VGL-1 - iconic

3) Vapor Eagle VGL-2 - since no iconic assault, another medium takes the slot.

4) Hellbringer (prime) - not very iconic, but no better candidate.

Six-seven mechs, the middle. (skip, this is for timid)
Can be seen in the older post, will be updated if needed.

Ten mechs (9+hero), the maximum (do this! this is for real mechwarriors!)
clan lists will be finalized if the suggestion is viable.

Spoiler

Davion
1) Javelin JVN-10N
2) Osiris OSR-3D
3) Centurion CN9-D
4) Enforcer ENF-5D
5) Dervish DV-7D
6) Rifleman RFL-3N
7) Jagermech JM6-DD
8) Marauder MAD-5D or Warhammer WHM-6D
9) Victor VTR-9B
10) Awesome Pretty Baby or Victor Dragon Slayer

Kurita
1) Locust LCT-3V
2) Jenner JR7-K
3) Panther PTR-10K
4) Crab CRB-20
5) Kintaro KTO-20
6) Dragon DRG-5N
7) Catapult CPLT-K2
8) Hatamoto-Chi HTM-26T
9) Mauler MAL-1R
10) Orion Protector - was piloted by Theodore Kurita himself, after Kerensky dumped it.

Steiner
1) Commando COM-2D
2) Wolfhound WFL-1 or Firestarter FS9-S
3) Griffin GRF-1S or Uziel UZL-3S
4) Bushwacker BSW-1X
5) Thunderbolt TDR-9S
6) Thanatos TNS-4S or Warhammer WHM-7S
7) Zeus ZEU-9S
8) Banshee BNS-3S
9) Atlas AS7-D-DC
10) Zeus Skokomish or Mauler Knockout

Marik
1) Spider SDR-5V
2) Cicada CDA-3M
3) Hunchback HBK-4G
4) Trebucher TBT-7M
5) Griffin GRF-5M or Shadow Hawk SHD-5M
6) Black Knight BL-6-KNT - very rare, but mostly Marik's Oriente Hussars. Or Quickdraw 4G
7) Orion ON1-M
8) Awesome AWS-9M
9) Stalker STK-5M or Battlemaster BLR-3M
10) no good candidates, so perhaps Battlemaster Hellslinger, unless i'm mistaken, it have no lore connections at all.

Liao
1) Urbanmech UM-R63
2) Raven RVN-3L
3) Assassin ASN-23
4) Blackjack BJ-3
5) Vindicator VND-1R
6) Catapult CPLT-C4
7) Cataphract CTF-3L
8) Warhammer WHM-4L
9) Charger CGR-1A5
10) Cataphract Ilya or Catapult Butterbee

FRR
1) Locust LCT-1V
2) Commando COM-1D
3) Panther PNT-9R
4) Trebuchet TBT-7K
5) Griffin GRF-1N
6) Dragon DRG-1N
7) Thunderbolt TDR-5S
8) Zeus ZEU-6S
9) Atlas AS7-D
10) Grasshopper Mjolnir

Mercs
1) Flea FLE-15 - Wolf's Dragoons
2) Spider SDR-5V - usage mentioned for Wolf's Dragoons. Or a Locust 1V
3) Phoenix Hawk PHX-1 - very common mech
4) Shadow Hawk SDH-2H - very common mech
5) Archer ARC-5W - Wolf's Dragoons
6) Thunderbolt TDR-9SE - Eridani Light Horse
7) Marauder MAD-3R - not unique to, but used by McCarrons Armored Cavalry
8) Corsair COR-5R - a periphery mech, might as well be a merc.
9) Annihilator ANH-1A - Wolf's Dragoons
10) Marauder Bounty Hunter or Stalker Misery or Cyclops Sleipnir or Highlander Heavy Metal

Ghost Bear
to be updated on demand

Jade Falcon
to be updated on demand

Smoke Jaguar
to be updated on demand

Wolf
to be updated on demand

Diamond Shark
to be updated on demand

Nova Cat
to be updated on demand

Steel Viper
to be updated on demand

Edited by Sigmar Sich, 04 August 2019 - 11:08 AM.

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

Paul Inouye, on 03 July 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

• An additional rank will be added to each Faction
  
• The title associated with this new rank is "Hero of X" where X is the name of the Faction in question.

How about adding a new kind of rank, the Clan Rank.

The Clan Rank is the lowest rank you have achieved in any Clan Faction.

So if you're rank 9 in one Clan Faction, and rank 10+ in every other Clan Faction, your "Clan Rank" is 9, because your lowest rank in any Clan Faction is 9.

And you earn the title "Hero of the Clan" if you reach Clan Rank 20, which means you managed to reach rank 20 in each and every Clan Faction.

I'm not too concerned about the final reward, because I don't really expect anyone to reach rank 20 in every Clan Faction, but this will give players something to grind, that is a lot more difficult to achieve then simply "Hero of one Faction".

And it would be nice if there was a way to display both your Faction rank and Clan/IS rank, in the forum, in the cockpit, and also on the mech.

PS : Same thing for IS side.

Edited by Humble Dexter, 05 August 2019 - 07:24 AM.

[BROARL]

it would be nice if you could choose your title from amongst all the ranks you have earnt, for example I prefer rank19 "commandant-general" or whatever it was instead of just rank20 "general", etc.
it's trivial but it'd be cool.

[Paul Inouye]

Progress Update:

As per previous updates - Selecting your Faction from the Faction Select flag carousel will now be consistent across the entire game. Leaderboards (while still determining which data set to use) will first be populated as a global leaderboard (much like QP leaderboards) but will be constricted to current lifetime Faction Play data.

These are coming in this patch.

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it would be nice if you could choose your title from amongst all the ranks you have earnt, for example I prefer rank19 "commandant-general" or whatever it was instead of just rank20 "general", etc.
it's trivial but it'd be cool.

Will look into it for future implementation.

Humble Dexter, on 05 August 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

<snip> Clan or IS global rank

That would be a HUGE grind and as you mentioned, not a lot of people are going to get that far. It's also a significant change to the backend data tracking that is not meant for that type of monitoring.

[BROARL]

please be carefull not to make the next million LP worth merely the equivalent of a day in a quickplay event as that may encourage salt, thankyou for your efforts.

please also consider showing damage taken at the end of a game in the same way that damage done is displayed.

[Sigmar Sich]

Paul Inouye, on 02 August 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Possible yes and is part of the consideration for the rewards in both Loyalist and Merc Unit paths.

Here is the finalized form of the suggestion. https://mwomercs.com...-faction-ranks/

Hope this helps you to decide about this feature.

[Tarl Cabot]

Paul,

If a player does not select an Allegiance, what happens with the LP earned? Is the Player considered a Freelancer (no Allegiance), even if said player had selected loyalist for that conflict/drop?

Screenshot from this thread...

https://mwomercs.com...ost__p__6285886

Tarl Cabot, on 21 August 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

Testing it, currently it is Kurita vs somebody...

Allegiance to Kurita - contacted Loyaltist to Kurita - Earned Kurita LP
Allegiance to Rasalhague - contracted Loyalist to Kurita, Earned Rasalhague LP

If no Allegiance declared.. not able to test.. LP goes into limbo, as per Dave's screenshot?

So right now, if no Allegiance has been declared, LP points do not go to the faction you are fighting for.....essentially losing LP..

What does it look like if you go Merc without an Allegiance? Do you earn Merc? Dave, when you took that screenshot? Did you go merc or loyalist or Freelance for that specific conflict?

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 21 August 2019 - 04:32 PM.

[DarkFhoenix]

How can you have so many events in one year and yet not one is dedicated to FP ?

I cannot speak for other people but it was the Tukkayid event that hooked me when i started playing . It will be a crying shame if Tukkayid skips another year .

[evil kerensky]

DarkFhoenix, on 21 August 2019 - 11:11 PM, said:

How can you have so many events in one year and yet not one is dedicated to FP ?

I cannot speak for other people but it was the Tukkayid event that hooked me when i started playing . It will be a crying shame if Tukkayid skips another year .

You could do a lot of different lore events other than tukkayid too. Like:

Battle of luthien in january
Jade falcon incursion and the battle of coventry feb- march
Battle of twycross in september

And at any time, a months long operation bulldog/serpent event with personal rewards and major changes to parts of the IS map at stake (like removing clan smoke jag to 1 planet only in the periphery and giving nova cat sll their planets for IS victory. Vice versa, if clsns win, give them every planet in a 3 planet wide line between their "southern" most point and terra, but be sure to leave the frr 1 planet).

Edit:i apologize in advance, much vodka and free time on sarna was sacrificed in the creation of this idea

Edited by evilelrond, 22 August 2019 - 01:49 AM.

[Gandhi1]

Paul, any news yet on the next patch and what it might do for FP?

[Ruediger Steiner]

Gandhi1, on 06 September 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:

Paul, any news yet on the next patch and what it might do for FP?

[Yondu Udonta]

Paul, could you also ban cadets from playing FP? Anyone that has less than 25 QP matches under their belt is highly likely to be unable to carry their weight in Faction Play. Would also definitely help with match quality.

[Gilgamecc]

My unit would also greatly appreciate if the end of match scoreboard reflected damage received. We want a way to quantify and assess how well different pilots tank, it would be a huge quality of life improvement.