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[DAEDALOS513]

Hazeclaw, on 28 April 2020 - 03:02 PM, said:

did some drops with 4 man

12:2
12:4
12:4
12:3
12:0
10:12 (one of our 4man dced before the fight started)
12:5
12:2
12:6

everything went exactly as expected, it's like dropping a seal team six squad into a firefight with 8 year olds, only problem is getting the damage in before your buddies kill everyone, after a few games you start doing dumb s**t and then everyone gets bored and leaves

Like I said earlier.. first day results mean little.. give it time for the news of this update to trickle down the population ranks and the queue fills up with a larger variety of playerbase..

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 28 April 2020 - 04:32 PM.

[Anomalocaris]

Just watched Bowser take a group of 3 PIR and a HGRx2 VTR (piloted by B33F) into a match. They killed 3 mechs totaling 255 tons in the first 30 seconds of engagement by flanking around and ganking them while they were underway to the fight.

The enemy team had no chance other than Magic Pain Glove who was the only guy to pull his weight. And there were cadets on MPG's team as well.

Edit, they dropped again. MPG was on opposing team again too. 10 kills between the 4 of them. Only having MPG score 1000 dmg on the opposing team gave them any chance.

This is such a good change. Magnificent. Big Brain, 200IQ, super stable genius idea.

Edited by Anomalocaris, 28 April 2020 - 04:35 PM.

[RockmachinE]

Anomalocaris, on 28 April 2020 - 04:10 PM, said:

It's like you've become......a god

lol

Keep stomping, I'm not sure how many miles of rock you'll have to pound through to reach Paul's command center.....

Its the groups that were supposed to stomp us though? Maybe theyre not good at all, being all comfortable in their zone with their buddies, not used to the chaos of solo q

Edited by Louis Brofist, 28 April 2020 - 04:30 PM.

[Anjin]

DAEDALOS513, on 28 April 2020 - 04:21 PM, said:

Like I said earlier.. first day results mean little.. give it time for the news of this update to trickle down the population ranks and the queue fills up with a more variety of playerbase..

Except the first day results do mean something to those who are already playing and don't like the results they're seeing and quit. So that once the news "trickles down," there won't be people playing in any queue.

And that's the problem with this. If solo players stop playing, and all you have left are groups of 2-4 players, are they going to change it so it's just 4v4 group action? Or just have people sit in queues again and hope for enough solo players to still play?

Without some sort of advertising, I think is more likely to cause player loss than player return (and without advertising, you're not getting new players, whether solo or group, so they're absolutely banking on player return).

Especially if they don't address the weight-class imbalance before the end of 4 weeks.

Edited by Anjin, 28 April 2020 - 04:33 PM.

[DAEDALOS513]

Anomalocaris, on 28 April 2020 - 04:25 PM, said:

Just watched Bowser take a group of 3 PIR and a HGRx2 VTR (piloted by B33F) into a match. They killed 3 mechs totaling 255 tons in the first 30 seconds of engagement by flanking around and ganking them while they were underway to the fight.

The enemy team had no chance other than Magic Pain Glove who was the only guy to pull his weight. And there were cadets on MPG's team as well.

This is such a good change. Magnificent. Big Brain, 200IQ, super stable genius idea.

Typical.. pir's are OP and need to be nerfed immediately.. this is one example I'm talking about when I say lights sway the match too much. Any group that purposely takes 3 of them into any match probably enjoys taking candy from babies too or needs a daily dose of ego boost

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 28 April 2020 - 04:35 PM.

[Kroete]

Are there still not enough groups to play matches in groupqqueue?
Seems there are only not enough groups that want to play against other groups ...

[ShooterMcGavin80]

live1991, on 28 April 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

Solo is boring cancer game.

Solo has been freakin' thriving since group queue tapered off.

live1991, on 28 April 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:

This looks like a normal game before the change so just trying to understand your point ?

You said you stopped playing after group queue. How would you know what is normal? I played solo for 2-1/2 hours Monday night and there was only one 1-12 stomp game.

[DAEDALOS513]

Anjin, on 28 April 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:

Except the first day results do mean something to those who are already playing and don't like the results they're seeing and quit. So that once the news "trickles down," there won't be people playing in any queue.

And that's the problem with this. If solo players stop playing, and all you have left are groups of 2-4 players, are they going to change it so it's just 4v4 group action? Or just have people sit in queues again and hope for enough solo players to still play?

Without some sort of advertising, I think is more likely to cause player loss than player return (and without advertising, you're not getting new players, whether solo or group, so they're absolutely banking on player return).

Especially if they don't address the weight-class imbalance before the end of 4 weeks.

If you're reading the forums you're also seeing plenty of solo'ers having a great time... it's just that the whiners are usually the more vocal group and so you're seeing their posts more often..

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 28 April 2020 - 04:39 PM.

[Anomalocaris]

DAEDALOS513, on 28 April 2020 - 04:34 PM, said:

Typical.. pir's are OP and need to be nerfed immediately.. this is one example I'm talking about when I say lights sway the match too much. Any group that purposely takes 3 of them into any match probably enjoys taking candy from babies too or needs a daily dose of ego boost

Sigh, do you really think it matters what they took? They could pretty much do any meme build and still crush the opposing group, even with a top level player like MPG opposing them. Sh*t they're dropping against cadets!

I suspect they're proving a point right now, which ought to be really, really clear to anyone not suffering from recto-cranial inversion.

This merger does......not......work

[RockmachinE]

Ok this is stupid, I am experiencing the inverse effect I am long term solo Q and stomping those group potatoes, I don't know if a lot of these groups are just **** or what, but I've been stomping people left and right pretty much every round, I've stopped taking screen shots at this point...even if we lose I get like 3 kills per round... "comp" my *** you guys suck. Maybe the merger was good and you guys will realize you were never really good over there in group q.

Edited by Louis Brofist, 28 April 2020 - 04:48 PM.

[DAEDALOS513]

Anomalocaris, on 28 April 2020 - 04:43 PM, said:

Sigh, do you really think it matters what they took? They could pretty much do any meme build and still crush the opposing group, even with a top level player like MPG opposing them. Sh*t they're dropping against cadets! I suspect they're proving a point right now, which ought to be really, really clear to anyone not suffering from recto-cranial inversion. This merger does......not......work

But they won't take anything.. they will take only the most OP light(s) because their ego couldn't stand it if God forbid they lost a match..

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 28 April 2020 - 04:57 PM.

[Anomalocaris]

DAEDALOS513, on 28 April 2020 - 04:48 PM, said:

But they won't take anything.. they will only take the most OP light because their ego couldn't stand it if God forbid they lost a match..

Any idea that predicates its successful execution upon better players moderating their aggression and not taking good builds is going to fail.

I mean really, did you read what you wrote there?

BTW, they just claimed all 12 kills in a WHM, VTR and WLV on polar. Yeah, that.

Edited by Anomalocaris, 28 April 2020 - 05:09 PM.

[Brain Cancer]

DAEDALOS513, on 28 April 2020 - 04:34 PM, said:

Typical.. pir's are OP and need to be nerfed immediately.. this is one example I'm talking about when I say lights sway the match too much. Any group that purposely takes 3 of them into any match probably enjoys taking candy from babies too or needs a daily dose of ego boost

Three lights working together have dismantled targets in seconds pretty much since the first day we were taking Jenners out to melt down the Founder in his lurmatlas. PIR's are just the final apex predator of the bunch.

And they still become a debris cloud once a Streakboat gets the lock. But your average PUGger would rather be in that assault complaining about the PIRs than the Streakboat that can do something about it.

[Anomalocaris]

Louis Brofist, on 28 April 2020 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ok this is stupid, I am experiencing the inverse effect I am long term solo Q and stomping those group potatoes, I don't know if a lot of these groups are just **** or what, but I've been stomping people left and right pretty much every round, I've stopped taking screen shots at this point...even if we lose I get like 3 kills per round... "comp" my *** you guys suck. Maybe the merger was good and you guys will realize you were never really good over there in group q.

How'd that last match against Fragosaurus and B33F work out? Lol, 1-12 right?

[RockmachinE]

Brain Cancer, on 28 April 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

And they still become a debris cloud once a Streakboat gets the lock. But your average PUGger would rather be in that assault complaining about the PIRs than the Streakboat that can do something about it.

My Kitfox eats piranhas for breakfast they always come in confident and rarely make it out. Too squishy like real fish.

[DAEDALOS513]

Brain Cancer, on 28 April 2020 - 04:50 PM, said:

Three lights working together have dismantled targets in seconds pretty much since the first day we were taking Jenners out to melt down the Founder in his lurmatlas. PIR's are just the final apex predator of the bunch. And they still become a debris cloud once a Streakboat gets the lock. But your average PUGger would rather be in that assault complaining about the PIRs than the Streakboat that can do something about it.

But only pir's will crit out all your weapons in seconds in even the most armored assault.. they are a broken mech.

Edited by DAEDALOS513, 28 April 2020 - 04:59 PM.

[Krajeek]

I thought I'd give the new system a try, especially considering that I just put in some premium time and bought a hero assault mech. This is essentially a 4 vs 4 team queue after they eliminate the solo players who are still learning and mastering the game.

After getting curbstomped by groups far above my skill level, I must say that this is the nail in the coffin for me. You don't save a dying game by making horrible choices.

If other players are enjoying this, good for them. I can say that you can take the foolish purchases and my account that has been playing for fun for many years and shove it where the sun don't shine. Sideways.

Edited by Krajeek, 28 April 2020 - 05:37 PM.

[Tranderas]

I'm enjoying watching people complain about people better than them. The matchmaker isn't biased, they aren't trying to make your lives miserable. They care about the game enough to improve at it, and if you claim to care about the game and refuse to get better then you are lying to yourself and everyone around you.

This is the best decision PGI has made in years.

[DAEDALOS513]

Krajeek, on 28 April 2020 - 05:08 PM, said:

I thought I'd give the new system a try, especially considering that I just put in some premium time. This is essentially a 4 vs 4 team queue after they eliminate the solo players who are still learning and mastering the game. After getting curbstomped by groups far above my skill level, I must say that this is the nail in the coffin for me. You don't save a dying game by making horrible choices. If other players are enjoying this, good for them. I can say that you can take the foolish activation of premium time and my account that has been playing for fun for many years and shove it where the sun don't shine. Sideways.

Give it some time for queue's to fill up with more players.. this is the first day ffs...

[Zirconium Kaze]

Scout Derek, on 28 April 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

Funnily enough it's the other end of the spectrum when I was playing, barely any coms were used, which were to really direct the pugs in one direction. Nascar still happens though, dropped a few solo with worse groups, same results happened as mentioned; 12-0 stomps, and so forth.

And I never mentioned fixing the MM, just relaying the results, results that were expected. Also the fact that Paul is expecting matches to become "more competitive" is somewhat odd, considering that there is a comp queue which is now closed, and the issue that there is no real incentive to play competitive other than the thrill and reward of winning a match.

When I play actual comp, that's actual fun. When I play quickplay, I don't feel the thrill as often because it's usually one sided, and I'm dealing with people who have no regard for team composition or movement depending on who's in the match.

The trick to quick play as a solo player is to remember what's been happening and use a mech with a load out to work with it.

Edited by Zirconium Kaze, 28 April 2020 - 05:18 PM.