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[The pessimistic optimist]

TENTACLE BOSS, on 16 March 2021 - 03:34 PM, said:

I feel sorry for anyone who ran PPC boats without quirks.



Also, who the **** sees light PPC's and thinks "these are too powerful lets increase the cooldown" ?

Did the devs just get out of bed yesterday with a hate ***** for anyone who uses PPC's?

LPPC are beast right now on the right builds. 3 is like a long range slow firing AC 20 now. I was zipping around today blowing everyone backs out with them on a light today

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 03:37 PM.

[Z Cassel]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 03:34 PM, said:

Try it before yea poo poo it I am still testing it you might be surprised

How about you quit trolling and gas lighting people and let them express their opinions instead of farming your sacred post count that you hide behind?

[The pessimistic optimist]

Z Cassel, on 16 March 2021 - 03:37 PM, said:

How about you quit trolling and gas lighting people and let them express their opinions instead of farming your sacred post count that you hide behind?

Just try it make up your own minds people don't take my word for it. If yea try it and its trash come back and tell how I am wrong this is why I am wrong.

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 03:40 PM.

[mytilus edulis]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 03:10 PM, said:

Note all these post counts what with all these low post account coming out of the wood work



It fun to hunt those guy down now beat them in face to face fight now.

it takes an especially bad patch to motivate people to login to the forums

[The pessimistic optimist]

mytilus edulis, on 16 March 2021 - 03:42 PM, said:

it takes an especially bad patch to motivate people to login to the forums

Or they are alts only thing I am asking people to do is try the changes first then saying if its good or bad . Still working on that need to test it more

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 03:48 PM.

[Z Cassel]

Right, alts. Like anyone wants to spend that much time and money on this game. Like anyone is that invested in winning a forum argument around patch notes. You are arguing in bad faith sir. You are assuming people are complaining without cause, without test. You are specifically casting doubt into what they are saying and demanding they prove they are credible while offering no actual credibility to your own experience beyond saying you are credible. You sound like Tucker Carlson.

[Agyar30]

Sirsmokes i am so tired of your hipocracy/cluelessness. Hunt down a jgx or goon quad ppcboat drop in soup. Good luck with that and have fun while doing it. One bad peak or miss reading their movement/firing line and bye cockpit or sidetorso. It happened before patch too with good old quad warhawks. Now this is on steroids. If you are playing against roleplaying grandpas it might be fun i can imagine that. You have zero idea what are you talking about yet you keep posting your nonsense here.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Z Cassel, on 16 March 2021 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, alts. Like anyone wants to spend that much time and money on this game. Like anyone is that invested in winning a forum argument around patch notes. You are arguing in bad faith sir. You are assuming people are complaining without cause, without test. You are specifically casting doubt into what they are saying and demanding they prove they are credible while offering no actual credibility to your own experience beyond saying you are credible. You sound like Tucker Carlson.

Accounts are free

Agyar30, on 16 March 2021 - 03:48 PM, said:

Sirsmokes i am so tired of your hipocracy/cluelessness. Hunt down a jgx or goon quad ppcboat drop in soup. Good luck with that and have fun while doing it. One bad peak or miss reading their movement/firing line and bye cockpit or sidetorso. It happened before patch too with good old quad warhawks. Now this is on steroids. If you are playing against roleplaying grandpas it might be fun i can imagine that. You have zero idea what are you talking about yet you keep posting your nonsense here.

So? They also can't stand up to mechs in head on fight. My point about this being a buff to long range but an overall nerf to there versatility still stands. It dose the long game better but not a jake of all trade now

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 03:52 PM.

[Archglitch]

I'm not quire sure where to post a bug report, so I'm adding it here.

The latest patch breaks chain fire with Gauss Rifles. All Gauss Rifles seem to be affected.

Version:

1.4.239.0 - 16-March-2021

Description:

Weapon groups set to chain fire will ignore Gauss Rifles. All weapon groups and all Gauss Rifle variants are affected. Mixing non-gauss weapons (eg. lasers) will fire the non-gauss weapons in chain fire correctly but will not fire the Gauss Rifles at all.

Location:

In game, testing grounds, and academy. Mech of choice, armed with Gauss Rifles.

Reproduction Rate:

Always.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Add two or more Gauss Rifles to a single weapon group.
2. Set the weapon group to chain fire.
3. Hold weapon group trigger to charge.
4. The bug should now be encountered.


Gauss Rifles only:

Expected behavior:

1. The first Rifle in the group should charge then either fire on trigger release, or time out if trigger is held long enough.
1.1. If the charge times out the current weapon in the group should NOT change.
1.2. If the weapon is fired by releasing the trigger then the next weapon in the group should be selected.

Actual behavior:

1. Nothing happens. None of the Rifles in the weapon group will charge.
2. Occasionally only one Rifle in the group will charge.


Arbitrary Weapon Groups:

Expected behavior:

1. Each weapon in the group should fire according to its pattern.
2. When a Gauss Rifle is encountered in the group it should charge then either fire or time out as per above.

Actual behavior:

1. Only non-Gauss weapons in the group will fire.

[Ken Harkin]

PGI literally took a weapon designed for close range brawling and gave it the same changes they designed for long range snipers... That seriously boggles the mind.

SNUBNOSED PPC

• Damage Increased to 12 (from 10)
  
• Heat Increased to 11 (from 9.5)
  
• Cooldown Increased to 6 (from 4.5)
  
• Velocity Increased to 1700 (from 1200)

</p>

[The pessimistic optimist]

Ken Harkin, on 16 March 2021 - 03:52 PM, said:

PGI literally took a weapon designed for close range brawling and gave it the same changes they designed for long range snipers... That seriously boggles the mind.

SNUBNOSED PPC

• Damage Increased to 12 (from 10)
  
• Heat Increased to 11 (from 9.5)
  
• Cooldown Increased to 6 (from 4.5)
  
• Velocity Increased to 1700 (from 1200)

</p>

This is the one that makes me go yea that is not right. It's a nerf to snubs for sure. You don't range and zone with snubs you want to get in brawling ranges these changes don't buff that at all

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 03:55 PM.

[Lightning333]

So, here we are.
Due to real life matters, I played MWO in the last 3 years just only rarely.
But I enjoyed the "fixed" Meta you could rely on. I mostly played Quickgame-Mode, often on NAS when I had some beer... (you know, a german family-daddy had some hours free from family-duties). My experience was in Quick-Play that it normally pushed into extreme NASCAR. I did not experience the playstyle from 5 years (or some) ago, which was a little more static and snipers had a significant role. Therefore I do not understand why the "Sniper" and "take the better position" weapons are nerfed. The traffic lights lead all to NASCAR harder in QP. What an interesting game... (ironic).

But to be extra salty - obviously the extreme bulk of the community never asked for that changes - and yet you do it? Leaving other urgent balance issues such as drop points, hit registration and useless weapon systems unregarded. Well - new content is off the table it seems.

If you are used to that company models all nice words are blank - the concept seems to be: change the meta, let the crowd blow up c-bills and time to rearrange their Mechs and let them buy the next Mech-Pack who could probaply fit in this new meta

[Paladin IIC]

Far Reach, on 16 March 2021 - 02:18 PM, said:

Sirsmokes... Paladin...

What the hell are you even doing here? You shill-types only show up when there's consternation in the community. On cue, every time.

Passionate, topically correct posts are being deleted by mods... but these broken creatures are given lease to feed on the hatred they stir-up. Causing more post deletions...

Trying to ban wrongthink using "bad actors" on the forums again eh?
Stay classless, you invertebrate worms.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Resorting to personal attacks because someone has a difference of opinion over something in a game is sad. I hope you find happiness, may the force be with you.

Edited by Paladin IIC, 16 March 2021 - 04:02 PM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Lightning333, on 16 March 2021 - 03:58 PM, said:

snipers had a significant role. Therefore I do not understand why the "Sniper" and "take the better position" weapons are nerfed

The sniperness on those got buffed. What got nerfed was there versatility

Paladin IIC, on 16 March 2021 - 04:00 PM, said:

I'm sorry you feel that way. Resorting to personal attacks because someone has a difference of opinion over something in a game is sad. I hope you find happiness, may the force be with you.

I don't mind the personal attacks are how I know I am winning

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 04:04 PM.

[YiffyInAJiffy]

SirSmokes, on 16 March 2021 - 03:44 PM, said:

Or they are alts only thing I am asking people to do is try the changes first then saying if its good or bad . Still working on that need to test it more

I can't speak for every other one but as one of those low post accounts, this the first major patch since before I began the game (about a year ish ago?)

It's a bigger topic and it's on the front page so of course some people will come out of the woodwork, especially when it hits on major stuff like the Masc, it just tends to draw out the lurkers, I'm sure there is the odd person or two using an alt, but I don't think branding them all alts is super fair?

In my case browsing the forums is just annoying to navigate, I only recently noticed the comment symbol on announcements goes straight to the discussion, and since it really hurt a playstyle I enjoy, I figured it was fair weighing in after taking some time to test it out in game.

[FallGuy0815]

Archglitch, on 16 March 2021 - 03:51 PM, said:

The latest patch breaks chain fire with Gauss Rifles. All Gauss Rifles seem to be affected.
...snip...
Arbitrary Weapon Groups:

Expected behavior:

1. Each weapon in the group should fire according to its pattern.
2. When a Gauss Rifle is encountered in the group it should charge then either fire or time out as per above.

Actual behavior:

1. Only non-Gauss weapons in the group will fire.
.../snip

+100 for the perfect bug report (and if you are by any chance living in germany and are working in Software-QA for a living: are you looking for a different job right now? :-D )
-99 for having gauss in a chain firing group :-P

Of all things, this ires me the least about this patch, even if it is an unforseen side-effect. I can not fathom a scenario where i want to have gauss as a part of the chain fire group, especially with other weapons without the charge mechanic. Maybe, just maybe, a 4 light gauss mech with two chain fire groups bound to to different buttons to keep a constant fire up when initially pressing them staggerd, but with the increased cooldown even that is not a thing and would be better managed manually in the first place.

Edited by FallGuy0815, 16 March 2021 - 04:15 PM.

[Pure_NZ]

PGI, all of you are kids with a trainer for his favourite side(IS side)

[BigBadVlad]

Because Snub PPC and Light PPC Meta, see comp players us them all the time to wreck....

[The pessimistic optimist]

YiffyInAJiffy, on 16 March 2021 - 04:12 PM, said:

I can't speak for every other one but as one of those low post accounts, this the first major patch since before I began the game (about a year ish ago?)

It's a bigger topic and it's on the front page so of course some people will come out of the woodwork, especially when it hits on major stuff like the Masc, it just tends to draw out the lurkers, I'm sure there is the odd person or two using an alt, but I don't think branding them all alts is super fair?

In my case browsing the forums is just annoying to navigate, I only recently noticed the comment symbol on announcements goes straight to the discussion, and since it really hurt a playstyle I enjoy, I figured it was fair weighing in after taking some time to test it out in game.

I don't trust random low post accounts anymore just don't. Nothing personal just ANYONE can make a free alt account and post

Edited by SirSmokes, 16 March 2021 - 04:21 PM.

[Pure_NZ]

Agyar30, on 16 March 2021 - 03:48 PM, said:

Sirsmokes i am so tired of your hipocracy/cluelessness. Hunt down a jgx or goon quad ppcboat drop in soup. Good luck with that and have fun while doing it. One bad peak or miss reading their movement/firing line and bye cockpit or sidetorso. It happened before patch too with good old quad warhawks. Now this is on steroids. If you are playing against roleplaying grandpas it might be fun i can imagine that. You have zero idea what are you talking about yet you keep posting your nonsense here.

Nem "what are you talking about", hanem "what you are talking about"
Nem kérdezel, hanem kijelentesz