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[ScrapIron Prime]

Okay, In all seriousness, MrMadGuy is a fafnir pilot who is not getting any kills game after game and is getting ripped apart by light mechs.

This does not say to me that light mechs are the problem. This says that positioning that fafnir is the problem. Perhaps your play style would be aided by a slightly faster mech, one that does not get isolated and left behind by the team as easily to be chewed up by lone skirmishes. Yes, the fafnir can mount a veritable delete button against other mechs, but you have to be in the right place to use it, instead of in the wrong place to get eaten.

[pattonesque]

ScrapIron Prime, on 30 November 2021 - 06:46 AM, said:

Okay, In all seriousness, MrMadGuy is a fafnir pilot who is not getting any kills game after game and is getting ripped apart by light mechs.

This does not say to me that light mechs are the problem. This says that positioning that fafnir is the problem. Perhaps your play style would be aided by a slightly faster mech, one that does not get isolated and left behind by the team as easily to be chewed up by lone skirmishes. Yes, the fafnir can mount a veritable delete button against other mechs, but you have to be in the right place to use it, instead of in the wrong place to get eaten.

yeah a Fafnir -- and I'm assuming dual-HG here? -- is insta-avoid for any smart light pilot, unless they can get a free backstab and bounce.

[ScrapIron Prime]

MrMadguy, on 30 November 2021 - 03:58 AM, said:

I don't care, how it happened. It just happened. He jumped on his JJ above my aim. I'm experienced enough to just wait to him to land. But this few seconds he was airborne were enough to rip my ST off. I didn't even notice, how it happened. I was too focused on killing him to watch for my armor. But when I noticed, that something was wrong, my front ST was already without armor.

Are you certain it was your front torso? The rear armor is usually paper thin, and if he got a shot off on a rear side torso and detonated the heavy gauss rifle with a crit... that would do it. And a light mech could do that from the front easily enough if your side torso armor was already below 30. It's not magic.

[Curccu]

RickySpanish, on 30 November 2021 - 04:29 AM, said:

I have contended that Assault 'Mechs are the most difficult class to play well, thereby making Lights not The Hardest, but to say that Lights are the easiest? Sir, have you actually piloted one?

Yes it did happen almost a Year and half ago...
For 20 games with average matchscore of "lights are stupidly OP and I won't play them ever again because it would break the balance of the MWO" 134

[martian]

RickySpanish, on 30 November 2021 - 04:29 AM, said:

I have contended that Assault 'Mechs are the most difficult class to play well, thereby making Lights not The Hardest, but to say that Lights are the easiest? Sir, have you actually piloted one?

I asked him the same question:

martian, on 17 November 2021 - 02:51 AM, said:

How often do you actually play light 'Mechs to test your theory that light 'Mechs are so powerful and easy to play?

I got this answer:

MrMadguy, on 17 November 2021 - 04:21 AM, said:

I don't play Lights ....

[Kimias]

Honestly, your right. Big mechs should also get stuck in the mud due to the mass of their bulk causing them to sink deeper into the soft earth, probably should also barely be able to anchor turn in such muck.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Kimias, on 30 November 2021 - 09:25 AM, said:

Honestly, your right. Big mechs should also get stuck in the mud due to the mass of their bulk causing them to sink deeper into the soft earth, probably should also barely be able to anchor turn in such muck.

True, but being stuck in the mud or moving more slowly in water would kinda suck in a FPS environment, so we don't.

[Vorpal Puppy]

Light mechs are not OP. Skill ceiling much higher for light mechs. Good light pilots in good light mechs are OP, especially when they are smurfing to club new and T4/T5 players. Blame the match maker that doesn't recognize high skill players and get them out of T4 and T5 in a few matches.

[LordNothing]

martian, on 29 November 2021 - 10:44 PM, said:

Those players from the "Lights are OP" crowd never do that.

they whine about not being good at lights, then they whine about not being good at assaults. i see a pattern. id fathom to guess they don't do well in mediums and heavies as well.

Edited by LordNothing, 30 November 2021 - 04:03 PM.

[Bassault]

justcallme A S H, on 28 November 2021 - 11:03 PM, said:

And a 100T (B.) mech would be able to delete the 20T (A) mech on it's approach in a single shot/volley.

The 100T (B.) mech has failed to do its job if that has allowed (A) to do such naughty things.


There is your A and B.


And here ends the latest "lights are OP" thread.

You're also neglecting the usual phenomenon of teammates shooting anything near them, especially a light mech hardly moving in close range, which happens to be the exact position a leg-hugging light mech is in.

Still, unpopular opinion, judge me if you want, but I think it's dumb that lights can leg hump. It's not that big of a deal in quickplay, but in Solaris or something it is cancer.

[PocketYoda]

It wont change op.. Too many in the inner circles of the game like their advantage. They should really be 2-3 times the size they are now but it wont happen.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Yep, totally. Cauldron Members only play lights exclusively and love how OP they are. Heads up, folks! Tinfoil time!

[justcallme A S H]

MechaGnome, on 01 December 2021 - 04:36 AM, said:

It wont change op.. Too many in the inner circles of the game like their advantage. They should really be 2-3 times the size they are now but it wont happen.

Citation/Proof/Evidence?

[pbiggz]

MechaGnome, on 01 December 2021 - 04:36 AM, said:

It wont change op.. Too many in the inner circles of the game like their advantage. They should really be 2-3 times the size they are now but it wont happen.

This is absurd and you know it.

[MrMadguy]

This game is so bad now, that my K/D = 1. And K/D doesn't mean Kill/Death. It means Kill/Day.

[D A T A]

An assault having to mathematically lose a 1v1 vs a light just because of leg hugging and insufficient assault agility is a nonsense and a massive game design flaw. An assault should not have 0 chances of winning a fight vs a light in brawl, it is just stupid....
Unfortunatelly most of the cauldron doesn't agree with me on this.

Edited by D A T A, 01 December 2021 - 07:27 AM.

[knight-of-ni]

D A T A, on 01 December 2021 - 07:24 AM, said:

An assault having to mathematically lose a 1v1 vs a light just because of leg hugging and insufficient assault agility is a nonsense and a massive game design flaw. An assault should not have 0 chances of winning a fight vs a light in brawl, it is just stupid....
Unfortunatelly most of the cauldron doesn't agree with me on this.

Maybe I missed a comment in this thread, but I don't think anyone here has suggested an assault mech will mathematically lose against a light mech. It can certainly be difficult, but it isn't zero.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

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[pbiggz]

MrMadguy, on 01 December 2021 - 07:23 AM, said:

This game is so bad now, that my K/D = 1. And K/D doesn't mean Kill/Death. It means Kill/Day.

my guy.

try a different mech. The fafnir just isn't doing it for ya. The game isn't bad because you are having a bad time. You are just having a bad time. There are resources to help you improve your game if you're willing. People are dragging you because you aren't.

Edited by pbiggz, 01 December 2021 - 07:51 AM.

[martian]

MrMadguy, on 01 December 2021 - 07:23 AM, said:

This game is so bad now, that my K/D = 1. And K/D doesn't mean Kill/Death. It means Kill/Day.

Perhaps it is the right time to change your tactics, your 'Mech or both.

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