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[Curccu]

BLXKNTRR, on 11 March 2024 - 12:44 AM, said:

4000 people came to see my thread. So clearly the black knight must rise again!!!!

It is just views (You and Quicksilver probably count half of that 4000 )not views by different players.

For example "Do You Have Any Decal Suggestions?" thread has almost 360k views and game had 42k player at that time and only less and less after that so no 360k different players have viewed that thread.

[Rosarius]

So on the first page or two of this thread I posted some screenshots showing how "unplayable" the black knight can be. Now that this thread is in its 12th page, I've decided to look at this more seriously



Black knight performs better in WLR, and KDR when compared with my lifetime average across all mechs. This is saying something, as I purchased the black knight around 2018 or 2019 when I was a T3 or T2 player under the OLD PSR system.

The black knight will never be a comp queue must have or should have pick and quirking it to make it so will make it absolutely broken for quickplay (ie, the game mode that most players play most often). It performs perfectly well in quickplay so long as you are mindful of its strengths and weaknesses (ie, just like every other mech in the game)

[BLXKNTRR]

Rosarius, on 11 March 2024 - 01:17 AM, said:

So on the first page or two of this thread I posted some screenshots showing how "unplayable" the black knight can be. Now that this thread is in its 12th page, I've decided to look at this more seriously



Black knight performs better in WLR, and KDR when compared with my lifetime average across all mechs. This is saying something, as I purchased the black knight around 2018 or 2019 when I was a T3 or T2 player under the OLD PSR system.

The black knight will never be a comp queue must have or should have pick and quirking it to make it so will make it absolutely broken for quickplay (ie, the game mode that most players play most often). It performs perfectly well in quickplay so long as you are mindful of its strengths and weaknesses (ie, just like every other mech in the game)

86 matches? I think ive played that in a day.

[Arnetheus]

Oh come on, i asked you to be consistent and not reply to me. Why would you do this to yourself and ask for another dose of reality check?
Let's get it sorted then.

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BLXKNTRR, on 08 March 2024 - 04:07 PM, said:

My build is a facetime build. It is not suited for 1 v1.

Considering you decided to not have a mirror match, you were free to choose any build. You have "played all of the BLK builds" after all.
So, you picked your poison.

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I would still like a buff to the black knight, but perhaps i was too entrenched in my preconceptions and wanting a better platform for my facetime loadout.

Yes, different mech geometry profiles allow different mechs to do different things. Welcome to MWO basics.

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Hey I said im about as good as it gets.

No, you said precisely the following:

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You want to call my skill in question. Im as good as it gets in a black.
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I have never seen a black knight pilot more skilled than I, although, I wish to meet them in battle should they prove to exist.

Trying to weasel in "about as good" after the initial statement is a fairly weak goalpost moving attempt, just to seem less egotistic in your misguided "i'm the main player of Black Knights in this game" shtick you're building your whole MWO persona around.
Try to think a bit longer on your phrasing before posting. Some brevity helps with building stronger arguments too.

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Meaning im pretty good in a gimped loadout in qp.

Sorry, you are not "pretty good" at anything, being T2 and whatnot. Considering this whole thread's discussion, you still have a lot to learn.

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Better in the polished tier 1 style builds.

"Tier 1 style" build is not a thing.
There are good builds, bad builds and gimmick builds. That's it.
Plenty of people confuse gimmick builds with just bad ones though, as they are bad at mechbuilding in general.

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But im not the best...YET.
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But clearly I need to reassess my playstyle andloadout in order to outclass you and other tier 1s.

Now that's the spirit. Let's hope it's more than just words.
Somewhere along the way, you will also have to realise not all T1s are the same.

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Relax

I am relaxed? Listening to some new gaming OSTs as i'm finishing up some work. Weird attempt at emotional strawman, don't do that.
After all, it's not me replying to almost every single post in this thread, arguing beyond what i'd call reasonable.
Posting inflammatory paragraphs and then going back to redact them out doesn't help your case either.

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The black knight needs to be the roy benevedez of mechs. It needs to be tough enough to be there outnumbered and turning the tide of battle. Too bad.
This is what the game needs, matches that you can come back from when your down by 5. Thats epic, thats fun.

Ok, DATA junior.

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And people who pilot said mech are treated poorly too.

Shadowcat players left the chat.

Please, don't slide into victimhood baiting just because people disagree with you.
Sincerely, the occasional Black Knight player.

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So, the whole idea of testing whether a loadout is bad, or whether a mech needs buffed by doing a 1v1 in a higher tier than you is bullshyte.

The main point of Bassault challenging you, was to check your claims of being a good BLK player. So that people could have a correlation between your ideas here and your actual in-game performance.
A point you seem to have missed.

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I have tried liking this game. and Ive come to realize, that in qp, youre just screwed. No amount of skill can make up for your team being *redacted*.

No amount of personal skill gives you a guaranteed win, welcome to team-based PvP games.
What it can do though, is affect your average experience. After all, if you think all/most of your matches are filled with bad teammates and it's the main reason for your losses... well... there might be another constant to consider.

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Doesnt matter. If your team is bad, you lose.

Can we not regress to 100% logically false statements?
What if both teams are bad? = )

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I can get 900-1200 dmg in a match and lose. How much harder could I possibly carry. Maybe if I played perfectly 1500 dmg.

Doesn't matter "how hard" you "have" to carry, damage number is just a subsidiary number to how much you affected the match outcome. Provided you played normally and didn't just farm AFKers or shot arms/legs for padding. Getting kills is always more preferrable to farming damage, if you want to win. So the idea of "but i did 1k dmg this match, i deserve a win" is a foolish one. There can be plenty of factors to your loss, including your own mistakes despite the high damage.
Think the highest dmg loss i had was 1650.
Saw somebody have a 1800+ loss iirc.

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Im not upset. I am hoping to goad you into more 1v1s

Lying about someone you want to duel is a sure way to make people not care about anything you have to say.

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Practice more?
After 4 years practice more?

Yes? You mentioned in this very thread you don't know Solaris maps, that tells you have no/barely any duelling experience.
Personally, i can tell after having no duelling sessions for about a year and playing QP only... is brainmushing.

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4000 people came to see my thread. So clearly the black knight must rise again!!!!
You dont want to buff it? FINE. You dont want to quirk it? FINE. You guys at pgi get paid alot of money seemingly to come out here, turn my mechs head purple, not buff it or add quirks...

Sheesh, you sure have a bad memory. Or just ignorant/bad faith arguer?
Black Knight was buffed at least 2 times directly, since the Cauldron took over.
And they are not being paid for balancing quirks.

Continue being dramatic in your wrongness, that sure will make people listen to your plights.

[AnAnachronismAlive]

BLXKNTRR, on 11 March 2024 - 12:44 AM, said:

4000 people came to see my thread. So clearly the black knight must rise again!!!!

You dont want to buff it? FINE. You dont want to quirk it? FINE. You guys at pgi get paid alot of money seemingly to come out here, turn my mechs head purple, not buff it or add quirks, nor even give me a coupon to bed bath and beyond, Aaand tell my thread to die!!??

You know what i say to your purple head debauchery!! To your anti buff baboonery? To your cuckolding coupon withholding lack of quirk and lack of work erksome jerk beefing with the noble iconic black knight blxkntrr red reaping sentinel?

Tis but a scratch.

P.s. I'll bite your legs off

Mate ... (in the eye of others) one becomes, what one repeatedly does! Either you can't or you ain't willing to follow the arguments been given in this thread. So how do you believe is your ongoing "No matter what, I'm going back to my point of departure"-attitude received around here?

[MarcinT1981]

BLXKNTRR, on 11 March 2024 - 01:01 AM, said:

And im coming to tier 1 MY WAY

Soon

[Cyborne Elemental]

MarcinT, that is the best.

Not only a good meme from one of my all time favorite Monty movies.

It is also a good representation of what happens to Black Knights when played by a good pilot that knows what twisting and spreading the damage looks like.

[Rosarius]

BLXKNTRR, on 11 March 2024 - 01:26 AM, said:

86 matches? I think ive played that in a day.

Really? Huh....

You must be pretty good then!

[BLXKNTRR]

Rosarius, on 11 March 2024 - 06:20 PM, said:

Really? Huh....

You must be pretty good then!

I have my moments

Regardless, 86 sample size is not enough

[BLXKNTRR]

Rosarius, on 11 March 2024 - 06:20 PM, said:

Really? Huh....

You must be pretty good then!

Since taking bassaults advice, Im nearly already in tier 1

I wish the black knight was smaller so i could brawl more effectively. I really like my 5mxpl 2 snub build. Im going to try making it better suited for brawling with skills.

Let me ask you, do you think hard brake is necessary?

And should i out laser duration and cooldown vs my 6 skill points in range? Would that help mxp?

Edited by BLXKNTRR, 12 March 2024 - 03:00 PM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

I was gonna suggest torso speed as better nodes to unlock, but the I noticed you’re talking X-pulse lasers… which keep you from twisting damage pretty much at all. You roll damage at the expense of doing damage. I wouldn’t call the Black Knight a very forgiving X-pulse vehicle.

Otherwise… you don’t need laser duration if you’re running xpulse IMO, the benefit is tiny. And cooldown really only helps the snubs. With that weapon load out (which I would not run, but that’s just me) range is better.

[BLXKNTRR]

ScrapIron Prime, on 12 March 2024 - 04:09 PM, said:

I was gonna suggest torso speed as better nodes to unlock, but the I noticed you’re talking X-pulse lasers… which keep you from twisting damage pretty much at all. You roll damage at the expense of doing damage. I wouldn’t call the Black Knight a very forgiving X-pulse vehicle.

Otherwise… you don’t need laser duration if you’re running xpulse IMO, the benefit is tiny. And cooldown really only helps the snubs. With that weapon load out (which I would not run, but that’s just me) range is better.

That's what i was thinking too but someone in qp said laser duration and cooldown were mist haves for xpulse. I disagreed and they were rather angry

At the moment Im playing xl 375 7l 2 binary 6 er mediums 87kph

Already 3/4 to tier 1

It was so hard to get just barely past 1/2 way mark to tier one in my x pulse bk

And torso twist is something i still do with it, but it was based on twisting when i thought the enemy would fire. Knowing the probabl cooldown of any given mech is somewhat daunting and hard to execute. So i rely heavily on the 340 meter range of the xpulse and hitting the target as much as possible when they are distracted. Very good heat management as far at xpulses go, but 2 snubs are kind of less than adequate peaking/ brawling dmg for a black knight. Especially with 299 range ( with skills)

Some anti crit quirks or some snub or heavy ppc quirks would be awesome, then again i could just put large pulse.

Along the same line of thought, I tried 3 lppcs instead of 2 snubs and tbh, it was better because the range and cooldown but easily would lose 1-2 of them due to criticala

Anyways.


Do you guys recommend not running hard break? ( I already have torso speed maxed on all my bks)

Edited by BLXKNTRR, 12 March 2024 - 04:28 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

ScrapIron Prime, on 12 March 2024 - 04:09 PM, said:

I was gonna suggest torso speed as better nodes to unlock, but the I noticed you’re talking X-pulse lasers… which keep you from twisting damage pretty much at all. You roll damage at the expense of doing damage. I wouldn’t call the Black Knight a very forgiving X-pulse vehicle.

Otherwise… you don’t need laser duration if you’re running xpulse IMO, the benefit is tiny. And cooldown really only helps the snubs. With that weapon load out (which I would not run, but that’s just me) range is better.

Duration quirks are actually great for x-pulse, just not for the reasons with other weapons. It doubles as a cool down quirk. Technically it does on normal lasers too but duration is a much smaller portion of normal lasers recycle time that it doesn't really matter as much.

[Void Angel]

Yeah, duration on X-pulse is literally the same as cooldown, making Laser Duration five times as valuable per node.

As for Hard Brake, it's kind of meh. It helps you pull back into cover a bit, I suppose, but I rarely use it. Generally, if I'm playing a laser poke build, I have my beam duration to reverse direction, and if I'm playing a laser dakka X-pulse build I'm gunning for facetime rather than peeking. Could be useful, and with a heat-limited build with a high-heat alpha (where you might pull some or all of your cooldown nodes out,) you can probably afford the extra points - but it depends on how your matches go.

[MarcinT1981]

BLXKNTRR, on 12 March 2024 - 02:54 PM, said:

Let me ask you, do you think hard brake is necessary?

And should i out laser duration and cooldown vs my 6 skill points in range? Would that help mxp?

On every light and medium hard brake is mandatory (unless they have MASC), on black knight it's meh.
On any mech with x-pulse, max cooldown max duration, this is super important

One more tip, if you want to use x-pulse, they work best on mechs that already have quirks, such as centurion or kintaro

Edited by MarcinT1981, 12 March 2024 - 11:26 PM.

[HenryFA]

AnAnachronismAlive, on 11 March 2024 - 03:50 AM, said:

Mate ... (in the eye of others) one becomes, what one repeatedly does! Either you can't or you ain't willing to follow the arguments been given in this thread. So how do you believe is your ongoing "No matter what, I'm going back to my point of departure"-attitude received around here?

Im reading this thread daily as a joke.
OP is so funny and pathetic.

[AnAnachronismAlive]

Pretty sure the whole thread is a hoax of someone's alt though. Seen him and folks he probably dropped with in some games recently. Could be a coincidence, but I doubt it.

[BLXKNTRR]

HenryFA, on 13 March 2024 - 02:10 AM, said:

Im reading this thread daily as a joke.
OP is so funny and pathetic.

Thats high praise

[BLXKNTRR]

AnAnachronismAlive, on 13 March 2024 - 03:48 AM, said:

Pretty sure the whole thread is a hoax of someone's alt though. Seen him and folks he probably dropped with in some games recently. Could be a coincidence, but I doubt it.

How dare you?! You have stolen my future!!!

Thats right, my true identity is greta thunberg

[Vite Ramen]

Any update, OP? Did you buy and consume Vite Ramen to improve your Black Knight game?