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[Amsro]

BSK-6, high mount Quad UAC-10. Perfection! Maybe add 2-4 Light PPC's.

Edited by Amsro, 10 May 2024 - 08:59 AM.

[PocketYoda]

Bullshark was a made up mech in Battletech Game.. It was originally IS as it was supposedly a lost Clan mech found by IS..

[w0qj]

Wonder if the Bullshark mech pack can be deemed a Clan mech purchase towards 2024 Annual (Loyalty) Rewards?

There is no new Clan mech pack to purchase this year.
(The last one was the Stone Rhino, but that was for last year).

PocketYoda, on 10 May 2024 - 06:28 PM, said:

Bullshark was a made up mech in Battletech Game.. It was originally IS as it was supposedly a lost Clan mech found by IS..

Edited by w0qj, 11 May 2024 - 10:24 PM.

[Void Angel]

That's a good question, since it has variants of both tech bases.

[Arkhangel]

martian, on 10 May 2024 - 08:09 AM, said:

That lore example was right from the canon BattleTech book.

After all, it is the BattleTech lore that you claim to cherish so much:


If you do not like it, it is not my problem.

You mean the pilot and book you consistently refuse to name, which makes it look like you're just making **** up?

You ain't "right" and no one is "wrong" until you provide a source, scooch.

Edited by Arkhangel, 12 May 2024 - 08:12 AM.

[Akamia Terizen]

martian, on 03 May 2024 - 12:39 PM, said:

If I remember correctly, it was just a normal BattleMaster, albeit used by the Clanners.

Battlemaster56, on 03 May 2024 - 01:28 PM, said:

There is 3 clan variants of the Battlemaster but no IIC upgrade it was a mektek creation for mw4 from what I recall. But generally most clan variants of Inner Sphere mechs just get the C designation followed by a number if there is more than one.

The BattleMaster IIC as seen in MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries was indeed a MekTek design, but MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat did have its own take on the idea. While it was most likely intended as a regular Inner Sphere BattleMaster in context, being fielded exclusively by Kell Hounds working for Clan Wolf in the final missions of the Jade Falcon campaign (Iron Piston, Bronze Anvil), when made available in the Instant Action mode by any means, it is indeed called the BattleMaster IIC. Trying to actually play one yourself rather than give it to a Starmate would result in a crash to desktop, however. I've heard there is a patch that fixes it, but I haven't seen how well that works.

But yeah, for better or worse, there is no such thing as a "BattleMaster IIC" canonically at this time. Only an apocryphal appearance in MW2, and an outright non-canon one by way of a mod for MW4Mercs.

Edited by Akamia Terizen, 12 May 2024 - 12:18 PM.

[KursedVixen]

Akamia Terizen, on 12 May 2024 - 11:58 AM, said:

The BattleMaster IIC as seen in MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries was indeed a MekTek design, but MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat did have its own take on the idea. While it was most likely intended as a regular Inner Sphere BattleMaster in context, being fielded exclusively by Kell Hounds working for Clan Wolf in the final missions of the Jade Falcon campaign (Iron Piston, Bronze Anvil), when made available in the Instant Action mode by any means, it is indeed called the BattleMaster IIC. Trying to actually play one yourself rather than give it to a Starmate would result in a crash to desktop, however. I've heard there is a patch that fixes it, but I haven't seen how well that works.

But yeah, for better or worse, there is no such thing as a "BattleMaster IIC" canonically at this time. Only an apocryphal appearance in MW2, and an outright non-canon one by way of a mod for MW4Mercs.

either way MWO already has apocryphal mechs so there are little to no reasons why we cannot get a Battlemaster IIC other than coding and modeling issues.

[Tarl Cabot]

martian, on 10 May 2024 - 08:09 AM, said:

That lore example was right from the canon BattleTech book. After all, it is the BattleTech lore that you claim to cherish so much:

If you do not like it, it is not my problem.

Arkhangel, on 12 May 2024 - 08:11 AM, said:

You mean the pilot and book you consistently refuse to name, which makes it look like you're just making **** up?

You ain't "right" and no one is "wrong" until you provide a source, scooch.

Just saying -

https://bg.battletec...pic=55308.0

https://www.sarna.ne.../Naga_(OmniMech)

During the Clan Invasion, Clan Wolf deployed a number of stars of Nagas at both the galaxy and cluster level (per Clan Wolf sourcebook).

Alpha Galaxy
328th Assault Cluster - 2 stars of Nagas in an artillery binary
4th Wolf Guards Cluster - 2 stars of Nagas in the command trinary

Beta Galaxy -
Galaxy Command - 2 stars of Nagas in an artillery binary

Gamma Galaxy -
Galaxy Command - 2 stars of Nagas in the support trinary

Epsilon Galaxy -
Galaxy Command - 2 stars of Nagas in the support trinary

https://www.sarna.ne.../Apollo_(system)

During the Clan Invasion of Inner Sphere, Apollo was targeted by Clan Jade Falcon with keen interest during the Second Wave. This was due to its former status as capital of the old Rim World Republic, and thus its conquest would mark the beginning of rebuilding the Star League to the Falcons. The invasion began in May of 3050, when Turkina Keshik arrived with Gamma Galaxy in escort. The planet was defended by the Second Regiment of the Grave Walkers and the Apollo Militia.

Initial landings on the planet were hampered by the bad weather of the monsoon season. The Grave Walkers and Militia Troops put up a heavy resistance to the Falcon's invasion, but ultimately had to fall back to the planet's ancient fortifications. Built by Stefan Amaris himself, they were modeled after the Star League's Castle Brian fortresses. Several Stars of Elemental Battle Armor managed to overrun one of the forts by using ancient plans found in their Star League-era files of Apollo to discover secret entrances. However the second fort could not be overcome the same way and the Second Grave Walkers' resistance to the Falcon's efforts was incredibly frustrating. In response, Khans Timur Malthus and Elias Crichell ordered the 305th Assault Cluster to reconfigure their OmniMechs to fire Arrow IV Homing Missiles into the remaining fortification. Using the homing-rounds had the added benefit of keeping the Falcon's bombardment from destroying villages that were next to the Walker's position. The bombardment finally opened up a number of spots in the fort's defenses to allow Falcon 'Mechs and Elementals entry. Shortly after the Grave Walkers surrendered, ending the battle for Apollo.

Though I have not been able to locate a specific mechwarrior, only what the Khans had ordered in this one scenario. They were also mentioned as being used in the Battle of Tukayyid, again by Jade Falcon to take out a bridge.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 12 May 2024 - 03:05 PM.

[Battlemaster56]

KursedVixen, on 12 May 2024 - 02:05 PM, said:

either way MWO already has apocryphal mechs so there are little to no reasons why we cannot get a Battlemaster IIC other than coding and modeling issues.

It's alot more easier just to add in the Clan Variants which there are 3 and available with current tech in the game, then making a slightly different mech, more preferable to release things like Shadhawk, Griffin, Phawk, Locust, and Commando IIC before adding in Bmaster IIC

[Frozen Spirit Jac]

Damn-it! I made a payment on that Bullshark! Seeing the FWL colours on that Hero mech. I hope to see this also in MW5
Just when I thought I would no longer spend money on MWO ....

[martian]

Arkhangel, on 12 May 2024 - 08:11 AM, said:

You mean the pilot and book you consistently refuse to name, which makes it look like you're just making **** up?

You ain't "right" and no one is "wrong" until you provide a source, scooch.

You have not asked for anything, thus I could not have refused anything:

Arkhangel, on 08 May 2024 - 05:15 AM, said:

If the Guy's a Hell's Horses, that's not an argument in favor of it being honorable overall.

They do combined arms. Mech pilots *period* in the Hell's Horses rarely go up in the ranks because they see Mechs as solely Support units.

All you have posted was just one wrong guess. LOL

You can buy TRO3055U and check StarCap Gastopiv.

[Tarl Cabot]

martian, on 12 May 2024 - 08:54 PM, said:

You have not asked for anything, thus I could not have refused anything:
All you have posted was just one wrong guess. LOL

You can buy TRO3055U and check StarCap Gastopiv.

Just in case he is short on c-bills

The Naga first saw limited deployment in the mid-2900s. It spread slowly from Clan Wolf to other Clans, but even Clans with relatively liberal combat doctrines did not widely accept this ’Mech until the battle for Tukayyid, where the Naga proved its worth. During the drive on Brzo and Skupo, Naga-equipped Wolf artillery Stars decimated ComStar’s Tenth Army formations. After Skupo fell, Wolf Nagas continued to bite deep into the retreating Com Guards, who lost more than two hundred POWs to the Wolves in that action alone. Soon afterward, the Hell’s Horses began fielding Naga-equipped artillery units, followed by the Snow Ravens, the Star Adders, the Cloud Cobras and even the Jade Falcons— the latter in extremely limited numbers.

Star Captain Istal: Istal joined Clan Wolf’s touman as a freeborn warrior. After her Trial of Position merited her an OmniMech in a front-line unit, she received the “honor” of piloting a Naga in the Artillery Binary of the elite 328th Assault Cluster. She saw limited action until Tukayyid, and afterward found herself again unneeded. Captured in a Hell’s Horses raid, she now serves as her new Clan’s chief artillery instructor.

Star Captain Coaler Gastopiv: Barely a whelp from the sibkos when Clan Star Adder first struck York in 3063, MechWarrior Coaler piloted a Stormcrow until shot out of his ’Mech. Taking over a captured Blood Spirit Naga, he returned to the battlefield with a vengeance. During his four years on York, he rose to the rank of Star Captain and has been credited with more than eighty kills, half of them ’Mechs crippled by FASCAM mine-fields that he laid out. He shares the rest with MechWarrior Shawn, spotter for his support Trinary.

[Mac the Ripper]

So is it Bullshark or Bull Shark? The IRL animal and HBS Battletech version are called Bull Shark (two words), but here it's being labeled Bullshark, which seems like a typo that stuck around.

[martian]

Mac the Ripper, on 13 May 2024 - 08:15 AM, said:

So is it Bullshark or Bull Shark? The IRL animal and HBS Battletech version are called Bull Shark (two words), but here it's being labeled Bullshark, which seems like a typo that stuck around.

Does it really mater?

Well, every time you wish to stress that you are talking about the HBS original BattleMech, you use Bull Shark. And every time you use Bullshark, we will know that you are talking about the MWO BattleMech.

[codynyc]

signs in to see if this year is anything different...

nope..

signs out again for another year

[martian]

codynyc, on 14 May 2024 - 04:38 AM, said:

signs in to see if this year is anything different...

nope..

signs out again for another year

New 'Mechs have been added.

New maps have been added.

New weapons and equipment have been added.

[Void Angel]

Don't confuse him with facts, he's from New York.

[Matt Newman]

https://x.com/MechWa...504834841640971

Alpha Strike! Extra Spicy!

[Void Angel]

Matt Newman, on 14 May 2024 - 03:03 PM, said:

https://x.com/MechWa...504834841640971

Alpha Strike! Extra Spicy!

That looks like a perfectly good Battlemech being melted down into commemorative ingots. =D

[w0qj]

May we invite you to peruse the numerous MWO changes in the past few years:

MWO Patch logs since 2021 (aka Cauldron changes):
https://mwomercs.com...auldron-changes
https://mwomercs.com/game/patch-notes

HSL Quirk List: much more comprehensive than a few years back!
https://mwomercs.com...-hsl-quirk-list

Nep's New mechs and build ideas:
https://docs.google....ihUp7zDCUw/edit

BTW, this is in addition to the new mechs, new weapons, and new maps that martian had already alluded to).
I rest my case

Edit: Oh, and we are now at the infancy of the age of: IS Omnimechs!

codynyc, on 14 May 2024 - 04:38 AM, said:

signs in to see if this year is anything different...nope..

signs out again for another year

Edited by w0qj, 14 May 2024 - 08:53 PM.