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[Carebear]

Well, I dont think it happens here, EVE is for idiots, who want to pay money for offline progression honestly <-- rea ****** factor right there!

Edited by Carebear, 03 August 2012 - 06:29 AM.

[Illegal Username]

"Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the goons are at the same time too strong and too weak."

wargames, on 03 August 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

Since goons were mentioned in this thread can we go ahead and shut down this thread like every other goon thread, mods?

Also this

[Samuikaze]

wargames, on 03 August 2012 - 02:46 AM, said:

Since goons were mentioned in this thread can we go ahead and shut down this thread like every other goon thread, mods?

Why? Because it's another thread pointing out the negative effects your kind has on gaming communities other than your own little forum dumpholes? You're here to grief and the nice splashing of arrogant teasing banners from you lot is already proving a point.

[LaurenceMcFunk]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Why? Because it's another thread pointing out the negative effects your kind has on gaming communities other than your own little forum dumpholes? You're here to grief and the nice splashing of arrogant teasing banners from you lot is already proving a point.

[Two Beans]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

your kind

That's racist.

[Fugu]

Personally I have not seen any griefing by any goons whatsoever here.
Not taking a videogame with giant robots shooting each other serious isn't griefing to me.

[Feindfeuer]

I'd rather have a goon in my team than someone who thinks a videogame about magical space robots is too serious to allow for lighthearted fun or who gets mad at people because they murdered his videogame alter-ego in another game... where it's totaly valid and OK to be killed btw. If you're afraid of the brutal pvp enviroment of EVE and other such games... don't play them... this game does not allow for such extreme player interaction, take a look at WoT, the goons are just like any other clan there. And WoT compares a lot better with MW:O than EVE in terms of gameplay mechanics and player interaction... so a lot of QQ about nothing.

[wargames]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 07:36 AM, said:

Why? Because it's another thread pointing out the negative effects your kind has on gaming communities other than your own little forum dumpholes? You're here to grief and the nice splashing of arrogant teasing banners from you lot is already proving a point.

You understand that every thread that contains the word goon get closed because of ~your type~

[Samuikaze]

NoZart, on 03 August 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

As long as there are customized "rooms" where people can join, players could always use some of the metasystems out there to add persistency(?) to the game. The "other" mechgame out there doesn't support any consistency on the server level due to being a mod for a skirmish type FPS, but there is a webbased league system where planets can be fought over and captured and resources managed. While being a bit inconvenient, i found this system of having the indepth experience externalized to have one big advantage: it keeps the call of doody crowd out and due to having only dedicated players, the amount of cheating/glitching/griefing is near zero.

But that would need to have a group of players dedicated to such a system.

I couldn't agree more with what you've just said here, There was a TKZ league in the MW2 days that used to run a system similar to this where the Clans invasion to the IS had begun, the systems web based map would be updated after all the fights had been completed for the week.

The difference though, those days people were into BT, into the BT lore [like many here still are] and those that took part init played the game in that fashion, basically each team followed TKZ rules of play and RP'd it out to make it an even more interesting thing to read and write about. There were epic fights, memorable fights.

These lot aren't interested in that, their game play like in Eve's is "Do what ever it takes to win". If that means burning the house down to get the game to what "they" want it to be, that is what they will be doing. You have only got to listen to that podcast to hear Mitani's comments, those who love BT, who like the "lore" and methods of BT are in for a rude awakening. It's clear the Goon's hate this community, they are looking for nothing more to do than grief it, dominate it, destroy it and add this one as another feather in their cap.

They do "anything" it takes to win, if that costs your game play here in this BT MMO that is what is going to happen if the devs give their kind a method to abuse.

[Samuikaze]

Buttlord, on 03 August 2012 - 05:28 AM, said:

Haha, this thread is amazing.

The one and only reason that goons are here in MWO is because a lot of goons really love Battletech. Look at this Battletech play-by-post campaign on the goon forums that has been going on for a year and a half without interruptions: http://forums.someth...&pagenumber=741 That thread has been running since before MWO was even announced.

Yes, goons will make fun of you, and try to get you mad about internet robots (SQUAWK). The reason for this is that a big portion of the pre-existing Battletech community is quite simply made up of insufferable grognards that are too socially maladjusted, insular, and downright wrong in the head NOT to make fun of.

Finally, you are totally ignorant of EVE's history and gameplay. Goons are not nor have they ever been anything more than one of the most powerful alliances in EVE - They don't "run" EVE, and they haven't "ruined" EVE. They simply play EVE like everyone else, it just so happens that they are better at it than most.
In addition, it isn't even possible for goons to acquire the same degree of control over MWO, because the game is much more rigid and structured. You can't "ruin" MWO anymore than you could "ruin" counterstrike.

By the way, shouldn't you be banned with a name like that? I'm not sure about others here, but I find it's sexual overtone offensive. I see you lot are staying true to your subtle offensive methods. Then again why shouldn't you? You've all had lots of practice over in the Eve community.

Edited by Samuikaze, 03 August 2012 - 08:21 AM.

[Samuikaze]

Feindfeuer, on 03 August 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

If you're afraid of the brutal pvp enviroment of EVE and other such games... don't play them... this game does not allow for such extreme player interaction,

10 years of playing Eve from forum days [like this place] to pre-alpha/beta to now says I have no issues with extreme player interaction, more so when you run an alliance for 4 of those years. What I dislike is games like this dragged into a cesspool by people who will do anything to win a game.

[Feindfeuer]

How do you 'win' EVE?

[Reverend]

Czardread, on 02 August 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

just heard the pod cast, NOT intimidated. for all purposes it is just another bunch of no girls and no life geeks who only life meaning is going from work/college/school straight into mmo's cause they have nothing else better to do and are jealous of people with life. don't know how they work cause i never played either eve or WOT. as to their possible "dirty" tactics, everyone can do that, it is up to your own obsession. as for blobing and swarming, it can only work in games where the devs allowed it. simply put, if the goons or any other 40 years old virgins try to own the game and by any means endangers either the game competitiveness or enjoyment of others they will simply either fall on the fury of the devs or will ruin the game. simply put, if they start grifing and ruining the fun of the game, it will fall short of profit, and considering that this franchise is based on a fan comunity, this is threatening to the devs (who are also fans) as the comunity can easily start to boycott the game or simply move on. from my point of view, they will come and they will try, but they'll only succeed if they really are the best out there. WOW has not suffered from their evil mainly because blizzard love to screw up exploiters. same can happen (or not here). as for espionage and guild backstabbing, sadly, that is a reality that every guild and group WILL suffer from anywhere. it will be up to strict recruitment rules and dedication requirements to try and curb this pratice as much as possible.

This is the police, Step away from your keyboard slowly and place your hands in the air! You are under arrest for multiple charges of grammar and spelling atrocities! Do not resist or the goons will swarm! Oh wait... You aren't intimidated.

[Samuikaze]

Feindfeuer, on 03 August 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

How do you 'win' EVE?

You don't, but you can make it a place that is so devoid of character and enjoyment it's pointless any longer being there.

[Reverend]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

By the way, shouldn't you be banned with a name like that? I'm not sure about others here, but I find it's sexual overtone offensive. I see you lot are staying true to your subtle offensive methods. Then again why shouldn't you? You've all had lots of practice over in the Eve community.

I find your posting highly offensive and frankly it seems like you are flat out trying to pick a fight. So if you are trying to get people banned you need to look in a mirror here because you are breaking forum rules sir.

[Illegal Username]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

10 years of playing Eve from forum days [like this place] to pre-alpha/beta to now says I have no issues with extreme player interaction, more so when you run an alliance for 4 of those years.

There are some things that say otherwise, ie. your whole posting history

edit: lol you played eve for 10 years

Edited by Illegal Username, 03 August 2012 - 08:54 AM.

[Bait and Swatch]

PringlesPCant, on 03 August 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

I think this is the first time I've played a game where I'm worried about being able to deliver on the sheer amount of panic and worry that we are inspiring before the game is even announced. Slow down guys, and lower your expectations.

I refuse to lower my expectations. Frankly, I'm expecting 10 foot tall goons to run around the battlefield savaging mechs with their goon-claws.

[Magnificent Fartlord]

Samuikaze, on 03 August 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Reverend, on 03 August 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

Unlike my friend Reverend I am glad that you have found something that you care deeply abuot enoughth to post on an internet forum; htank nyou for sharign

[Capn yoaz]

I wanted a good new mechwarrior game and I got it. Nuf said

[Reverend]

Magnificent Fartlord, on 03 August 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

Unlike my friend Reverend I am glad that you have found something that you care deeply abuot enoughth to post on an internet forum; htank nyou for sharign

Don't make me grammar police you too.