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[Teralitha]

Super Mono, on 06 November 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

This is why PGI needs to actually let us test this stuff, instead of just patting us on the head and saying "It's better this way, trust us."

We ARE testing it... this is still beta you know....

[Vassago Rain]

Bagheera, on 06 November 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

You do realize that every time you use this insult you sound like a petulant spoiled child who is jealous that someone else could afford to spend more money than you did. It's bad enough people perpetuate founder hate, now we got to separate ourselves by pricing tier as well?

You might have actually found a bug, too bad it's getting lost in your attitude. And people wonder why the forums are garbage.

You do realize that I've made a [REDACTED] out of you, and everybody else who's a founder, and I'll keep doing that until the situation's contained, yes?

Ansel, on 06 November 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

It could possibly be a bug from the mechlab.

@Jade you don't use the auto-repair feature.

@Vassago, do you use it?

It could be that thing not actualy repairing the internals after the first match you get cored, so you drop with reduced internals your next match.

I don't auto-repair, but manually repair. I've been on XL engines forever. If I don't fix structure, I'll literally die to one hit normally. Now, even with maxed structure, and maxed armor, I'll poof quickly when my armor's gone. Way, way too quickly. As do others, including trialmechs that start at 100% everything.

Edited by RAM, 08 November 2012 - 04:22 PM.
Trolling

[Team Leader]

This happpened to me Vassago. I wondered what was up.. my engined died when I was still yellow. Hotfix pleasee..

[Super Mono]

Teralitha, on 06 November 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

We ARE testing it... this is still beta you know....

So when are we getting true 2.0 DHS to test?

[Teralitha]

Jade Kitsune, on 06 November 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Video incoming, showing me running Endo Steel, Ferro, AND XL, taking internal damage and not dying instantly.

ETA 17 minutes for upload to youtube.

Um Jade.. just because YOU havent seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt exist. You are basically trying call everyone here a liar.

[Krivvan]

Vassago Rain, on 06 November 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

You know what I truly love about this place? That even when something's this obvious, gold syndrome prevents the fans from even considering that something might be wrong.

Not even for a second will they consider it.

I expect written apologizes from every single one of you who's made even a passing attempt to insult me after this.

I'm considering it, and I agree it's weaker, I just think that it's not quite instant. But I'm willing to believe increased crit chance. Would account for all the different results.

[Teralitha]

Super Mono, on 06 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

So when are we getting true 2.0 DHS to test?

I dont know... but I want to test bigger maps.....

[Leetskeet]

Teralitha, on 06 November 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

We ARE testing it... this is still beta you know....

Still in that mindset?

[Bagheera]

Vassago Rain, on 06 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

You do realize that I've made a complete mockery out of you, and everybody else who's a founder, and I'll keep doing that until the situation's contained, yes?

You haven't made a mockery out of me, I haven't said spit about this bug one way or the other. Frankly I could care less about it or who was right about it.

You have made a mockery out of yourself though, since you wear a Founder's tag and rage against Founder's. Your petulant, childish attitude is so baffling to me that I don't know if I should get angry at you, or feel sorry for you. Mostly the latter.

Edited by Bagheera, 06 November 2012 - 07:19 PM.

[Teralitha]

Leetskeet, on 06 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Still in that mindset?

have to be, or Ill just explode like all the other noobs.

[Leetskeet]

Bagheera, on 06 November 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

You haven't made a mockery out of me, I haven't said spit about this bug one way or the other. You have made a mockery out of yourself though, since you wear a Founder's tag and rage against Founder's.

Do you also complain about government spending and cry when there are potholes in the road on your street?

Don't edit posts on me baby

[DrBlue62]

Hmm, my Hunchback 4SP seemed to have lost it's arms and shoulders quite quickly, however the main torso did take a beating.
Another game, this time in my Awesome 9M with the stock 320 XL, I lost the armor on my front and back and took a few shots after the armor was stripped and I survived the end. However I accidentally team killed when I shot my ER Large laser and hit my off screen but apparently right next to me teammate.

In the Awesome 9M game I did tangle with two Atlas's, granted I had some help but they did fall a bit quicker than usual.

[Vassago Rain]

Krivvan, on 06 November 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

I'm considering it, and I agree it's weaker, I just think that it's not quite instant. But I'm willing to believe increased crit chance. Would account for all the different results.

I don't know what to call this, but I know it's not what we should ever have in the game, and I want them to fix it. Had this been ANY other company, it would have been fixed already Any other company.

Usually, people don't release new patches for their game, without making sure the transition's smooth.

Bagheera, on 06 November 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

You haven't made a mockery out of me, I haven't said spit about this bug one way or the other. Frankly I could care less about it or who was right about it.

You have made a mockery out of yourself though, since you wear a Founder's tag and rage against Founder's. Your petulant, childish attitude is so baffling to me that I don't know if I should get angry at you, or feel sorry for you. Mostly the latter.

It doesn't work like taht, because people who try to fanboy PGI are golds, while i'm not. Just get out of my thread, so I can do research.

Or help me do the research.

[Caladan Nix]

Vassago Rain, on 06 November 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

I don't know what to call this, but I know it's not what we should ever have in the game, and I want them to fix it. Had this been ANY other company, it would have been fixed already Any other company.

Usually, people don't release new patches for their game, without making sure the transition's smooth.

Well, at least they haven't destroyed the Operating System on anyone's computer like CCP did...

I really am mystified how these level of bugs are passing through any sort of internal testing?

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Vassago Rain, on 06 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

You do realize that I've made a complete mockery out of you, and everybody else who's a founder, and I'll keep doing that until the situation's contained, yes?



I don't auto-repair, but manually repair. I've been on XL engines forever. If I don't fix structure, I'll literally die to one hit normally. Now, even with maxed structure, and maxed armor, I'll poof quickly when my armor's gone. Way, way too quickly. As do others, including trialmechs that start at 100% everything.

As said, I don't auto repair, I manually repair. I've used XL's since closed beta, I always fix internal structure and armor to max.
not really sure what the issue here is guys. Mechs are dying faster I will agree.

Could it be just all the new LRM spam?

[Bartolomeo]

1° to 3° games without armor.. and not internal explotion for small hits..
4° and 5° game.. armor get breach and instant dead
6° game.. armor breach and i survive for longer time... with 4 mech hitting me...

so this look like random bug... till now...

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

saw Paul lurking this thread.. he left without posting.

[Vassago Rain]

Jade Kitsune, on 06 November 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

As said, I don't auto repair, I manually repair. I've used XL's since closed beta, I always fix internal structure and armor to max.
not really sure what the issue here is guys. Mechs are dying faster I will agree.

Could it be just all the new LRM spam?

No, I keep popping to everything, really. Machineguns, LRMs, SRMs, small lasers. I manage to pop enemy lights, after they've taken some damage, with single 2xLRM5 salvos, too. Even if LRMs had been boosted to the highest heaven, there's absolutely no reason you should be able to kill a mildly damaged light with 10 missiles.

[Bartolomeo]

daemur, on 06 November 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

This is an issue which is being addressed concerning the speed at which the paper doll is updating. I would like to point out that the mech is not dying from the initial hit, nor is it taking damage beyond what is expected. As is illustrated in your screenshots, the torso of both dead mechs is showing as orange, which would be the state of the mech prior to taking the killshot. At this point you are taking a significant amount of damage and dying.

As for the machine gun one-shot kill, unless you have found a way to put AC20 bullets in you machine gun, it should still lag behind a bit in the way of damage.

Thanks for the support.

O_O...

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Vassago Rain, on 06 November 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

No, I keep popping to everything, really. Machineguns, LRMs, SRMs, small lasers. I manage to pop enemy lights, after they've taken some damage, with single 2xLRM5 salvos, too. Even if LRMs had been boosted to the highest heaven, there's absolutely no reason you should be able to kill a mildly damaged light with 10 missiles.

I agree with that Vass.

I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is causing the issue, and unfortenately given the current state of the game, two groups can't drop together and test this stuff.

Is it map-specific, is it due to specific weapons? is it due to Endo Steel? does it happen if you have standard structure? Is it XL's?

I'm totally open to being wrong here Vass, there's enough people experiencing SOMETHING. The thing is, we[as a community] can't test for what it is that well because of the current matchmaker changes. This is going to be very hard to pin down.