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[Lorcan Lladd]

The storyline of most MechWarrior games was developed thorough the events of the Clan invasion and the Federated Commonwealth's civil war, in which many Clan designs as well as other advanced 'Mechs were readily available; I think it's more than likely that most players coming for MechWarrior Online would be most familiar with those Battlemechs, rather than the older designs which will be featured in this game.

So I don't think it's all about having the 'best 'Mechs' for them, though that might as well play a small part in it - it's more of an issue of familiarity and past experience, as they may not even know how much more powerful those designs are in comparison to Sucession War 'Mechs and weapons.
I'm not saying I agree, by the way, but I can see where these fans are coming from.

[Sassori]

Carl Wrede, on 19 May 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

While i will enjoy our time before the clans arrive by shooting the crap out of the snakes i am actually looking forward to a nice challenge when the test-tube babies will arrive in a year with all their uber stuff and leet attitudes.

They will be in for a rough ride as by that time most of the IS soldiers will be die-hard veterans.

Unfortunately, so will they. They'll just have played IS until the Clan comes out. If they have to start a new account to make it a clan account, they will. It's not hard to get a new free e-mail addy. So in the end... it'll just all be horrible.

[Carl Wrede]

Christopher Dayson, on 19 May 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Unfortunately, so will they. They'll just have played IS until the Clan comes out. If they have to start a new account to make it a clan account, they will. It's not hard to get a new free e-mail addy. So in the end... it'll just all be horrible.

I dont think so.. sure they will also have some veterans that have played in the IS since launch but those will mostly be the people who like to roleplay clanners and are very much into the clan thinking but the vast majority of leetkids will not have the patience to play IS until the clans arrive and so will most likely not be as skilled.

[Tezz LaCoil]

I am totally fine with what ever the devs put out. Hell, we have been waiting for FOREVER for a Mechwarrior game of any kind that did not just completely suck in every way possible.

Sure, there are things I would like to see. And I have often voiced my opinion, only to be slashed by 'tards that never really left the cradle, but I am going to enjoy this game regardless, so long as it is well made, and thoughtfully crafted.

[Eximar]

Xuvios, on 19 May 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

i just want it done properly, without all the true Derps running around in omnimechs and screaming like 5 year olds on Halo's Ice Level

Thank you for the hilarious vision of kids dreaming about running around in their clan mechs screaming "UNLIMITED POWER" as they alpha...

[Rejarial Galatan]

Dayson Dayson Dayson, I think the damage has been done to you. You mistake what I said, namely I am a clanner by heritage, as an IC statement, which, it was not. I cut my teeth and drew first blood as a Wolf in Mechwarrior 2 back when the game first came out. The heritage is my own past in this games ancestors. As a Clanner, my heritage is the gene pool from which my character will have been born from in his sibko. Do make sure you know what I mean before you make an assumption.

[Carl Wrede]

Rejarial Galatan, on 19 May 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Dayson Dayson Dayson, I think the damage has been done to you. You mistake what I said, namely I am a clanner by heritage, as an IC statement, which, it was not. I cut my teeth and drew first blood as a Wolf in Mechwarrior 2 back when the game first came out. The heritage is my own past in this games ancestors. As a Clanner, my heritage is the gene pool from which my character will have been born from in his sibko. Do make sure you know what I mean before you make an assumption.

Yes you have made it quite clear many times that you are a test-tube born wannabe.

[Rejarial Galatan]

going IC for this: I am trueborn, directly descended from Alexander Kerensky. My genes are from those who proved beyond a doubt that they are the best my Clan has to offer. I am designed to be the best warrior on the field of battle. I am bred to do one thing and do it well: Fight. You freebirth stravag are nothing more than the scum on a pond. You are not fit to fight against a trueborn.

OOC: get over it dude, if being a Clanner makes me a "wanna be" then your making that exact claim against ALL people in the Battle Tech Universe who like me, side with the Clans and not the Innersphere. Do you still wish to make this claim quiaff?

[GreatSeaSpider]

Dont forget that we should start to hear rumors and snippits of interesting stuff from August 3042 onwards, hopefully they'll use the clan's prerphery antics to build up some suspense before things kick off fully next year

http://www.sarna.net...le:Clanwave.gif

[Carl Wrede]

Rejarial Galatan, on 19 May 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

going IC for this: I am trueborn, directly descended from Alexander Kerensky. My genes are from those who proved beyond a doubt that they are the best my Clan has to offer. I am designed to be the best warrior on the field of battle. I am bred to do one thing and do it well: Fight. You freebirth stravag are nothing more than the scum on a pond. You are not fit to fight against a trueborn.

OOC: get over it dude, if being a Clanner makes me a "wanna be" then your making that exact claim against ALL people in the Battle Tech Universe who like me, side with the Clans and not the Innersphere. Do you still wish to make this claim quiaff?

Yes, bring it on.

[Sassori]

Rejarial Galatan, on 19 May 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Dayson Dayson Dayson, I think the damage has been done to you. You mistake what I said, namely I am a clanner by heritage, as an IC statement, which, it was not. I cut my teeth and drew first blood as a Wolf in Mechwarrior 2 back when the game first came out. The heritage is my own past in this games ancestors. As a Clanner, my heritage is the gene pool from which my character will have been born from in his sibko. Do make sure you know what I mean before you make an assumption.

Wait, damage to me? ROFL that's a laugh. Ok shall we explain what Heritage means? Let's!


her·it·age[her-i-tij]



noun

1. something that comes or belongs to one by reason of birth;an inherited lot or portion: a heritage of poverty and suffering; a national heritage of honor, pride, and courage.

2. something reserved for one: the heritage of the righteous.

3. Law .

a. something that has been or may be inherited by legal descent orsuccession.

b. any property, especially land, that devolves by right of inheritance.

Now, might you possibly understand what is so wrong about your statement? Maybe a little? Why it's so easy to mock what you say? Then you pop off with inane comments on how you could 'educate' us all, on how you are so superior to us yet admit you cannot pay attention to your radar screen as you get such tunnel vision that you lose accounting of your surroundings. Then you say how it will be because we are in a fight and you are flanking.

Yet you call yourself Clan, Zellbrigen means nothing to you. You make a claim to the blood of Kerensky and yet 'Galatan' is not a Trueborn name that anyone can find anywhere. In other words, you're a joke. There is /no/ damage you can do to me. None. At all. Ever. I simply can't take you seriously. I've tried to help you understand theme and more but you're simply not capable of comprehending how wrong you are so so many times.

P.S. It's a video game. You can't 'Cut your teeth' on it. Your heritage can't be part of it. You can have played the game in the past as a Clanner. You could have some long time experience as a Clanner. It isn't your heritage, you weren't born in a sibko, you mix IC and OOC in every post even when you try to say something is OOC.

In the end, I /so/ look forwards to seeing you on the battlefield. So very very very much. I want to see how awesome your point and click skills are. I want to see what sort of death defying piloting ability you have. I /really/ want to see you outflank my constantly moving mech with a slow as hell assault. Really really want to see that.

EDIT: Cuz copy/paste from Dictionary.Com adds tons of color tags for some reason.

Edited by Christopher Dayson, 19 May 2012 - 12:32 PM.

[Kargush]

Rejarial Galatan, on 19 May 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

going IC for this: I am trueborn, directly descended from Alexander Kerensky. My genes are from those who proved beyond a doubt that they are the best my Clan has to offer. I am designed to be the best warrior on the field of battle. I am bred to do one thing and do it well: Fight. You freebirth stravag are nothing more than the scum on a pond. You are not fit to fight against a trueborn.

OOC: get over it dude, if being a Clanner makes me a "wanna be" then your making that exact claim against ALL people in the Battle Tech Universe who like me, side with the Clans and not the Innersphere. Do you still wish to make this claim quiaff?

IC: You're a canisterborn genefreak, unnatural. Your skills come from only knowing one thing, and one thing only. You're an insect, specialized to the point of being unable to cope with too much change. An evolutionary dead end in warfare. Step aside, freak.

OOC: You're beginning to sound like a narutard. You've gone beyond wannabe and into the level where people dress up as their favourite character for causal wear and not just cons, the same level on Hell where furries reside. And you're quite frankly becoming a nuisance with you "RARGH! I CLAN WARRIOR! I MEMBER OF DA CLANZ!"

There is a level where it's all fun and games. And there is a level where you begin to look like a rabid 14-year-old anime fan who thinks anime is the height of art and human accomplishment. You're coming off as the latter.

You are no more a clanner than I am a Space Marine. So cut the crap. You're making yourself look bad.

Edited by kargush, 19 May 2012 - 03:43 PM.

[Vollstrecker]

This is one of those cases where I hope they alter the timeline and have the Clans invade at a later point.

I'd personally rather stick with 3025 tech too, but that one is already gone.

[Zakatak]

3049 is my favorite years in terms of available mechs and technology. It is the time where you can make some really interesting things in the mechlab. A shame the Clans had to invade immediately after.

Edited by Zakatak, 19 May 2012 - 04:01 PM.

[William Petersen]

Rejarial Galatan, on 19 May 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

going IC for this: I am trueborn, directly descended from Alexander Kerensky. My genes are from those who proved beyond a doubt that they are the best my Clan has to offer. I am designed to be the best warrior on the field of battle. I am bred to do one thing and do it well: Fight. You freebirth stravag are nothing more than the scum on a pond. You are not fit to fight against a trueborn.

OOC: get over it dude, if being a Clanner makes me a "wanna be" then your making that exact claim against ALL people in the Battle Tech Universe who like me, side with the Clans and not the Innersphere. Do you still wish to make this claim quiaff?

/facehoof

Not to mention you use the term completely incorrectly.

Edited by William Petersen, 19 May 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[Mota Prefect]

Aethon, on 18 May 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Better tech does not mean imbalance. World War II was won by the Allies, in spite of the Germans having, in many cases, far better tech. No one has said that the IS vs Clan matches will be a 1:1 player ratio. Also, I think the devs would have to be pretty stupid to not give the IS players some sort of advantage to put them on even footing with the Clans; the devs have not shown this sort of short-sighted stupidity whatsoever, so I think you should give them a chance.

You make a good point there, I think the devs will well in advance thought of how to implement the clans in planetary warfare in a way that makes it as balanced as possible for all involved. No matter what they decide, if it comes time for the clans to arrive and everyone rushes for shiny things making IS vs clan numbers woefully unbalanced, ill stay as an IS warrior just to break noob mechs and keep the game balanced. I have confidence PGI will make the two sides more or less capable then the other based on what I have seen so far.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[verybad]

kargush, on 19 May 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

IC: You're a canisterborn genefreak, unnatural. Your skills come from only knowing one thing, and one thing only. You're an insect, specialized to the point of being unable to cope with too much change. An evolutionary dead end in warfare. Step aside, freak.

OOC: You're beginning to sound like a narutard. You've gone beyond wannabe and into the level where people dress up as their favourite character for causal wear and not just cons, the same level on Hell where furries reside. And you're quite frankly becoming a nuisance with you "RARGH! I CLAN WARRIOR! I MEMBER OF DA CLANZ!"

There is a level where it's all fun and games. And there is a level where you begin to look like a rabid 14-year-old anime fan who thinks anime is the height of art and human accomplishment. You're coming off as the latter.

You are no more a clanner than I am a Space Marine. So cut the crap. You're making yourself look bad.

I hope you don't mind, but I had to steal part of that post to update my signature.

It's so beautiful I almsot had to cry.

Edited by verybad, 19 May 2012 - 04:45 PM.

[Name54678]

I'm happy that they're starting with IS only because I haven't been playing MechWarrior/Battletech for years and years like many of you have. I'm a newby and I dont know all the "historical facts" behind this genre. The developers, I hope, will not assume that new players will be willing to research the history behind this game and go reading books on the subject. Many will just want to get into a giant robot and shoot somebody in the face with a laser/missile/big honking cannon. I'd like to see the developers use cut scenes (example: see World of Warcraft Battle of the Wrathgate on Youtube) to explain the current state of the Inner Sphere and move the story line along.

[Tincan Nightmare]

Aethon, on 18 May 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

A few facts I'd like to point out:

The last Clan-centric Battletech game was released in 1995. 17 years ago. If you were born when that was released, you would be old enough to carry a driver's license and own a motor vehicle in the United States. In many states, you could even own a rifle or shotgun without parental supervision.

There have been two Clan-centric Battletech games released for the PC:
1. MechWarrior 2: 31st Century Combat
2. MechWarrior 2: Ghost Bear's Legacy

There have been ten IS-centric Battletech games released for the PC:
1. Battletech: Crescent Hawk's Inception
2. Battletech: Crescent Hawk's Revenge
3. MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries
4. MechWarrior 3
5. MechWarrior 3: Pirate's Moon
6. MechWarrior 4: Vengeance
7. MechWarrior 4: Black Knight
8. MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries
9. MechCommander
10. MechCommander 2

10 IS-centric games, as opposed to the 2 that featured Clan characters. Even if you cut out the first two and the RTS games, the IS has still enjoyed the lion's share of the attention. You've had the past 15 years to enjoy IS-centric Battletech games, and MWO is starting a few months before the Clan invasion, which means IS tech only at that time.

I have not yet seen the devs say that the IS teams cannot use Clan technology. I also have not seen it said anywhere that Clan players will start the game with a front-line Omnimech. It is also entirely possible that Clan warriors might not even get a Clan-fit IIC model; we may very well end up fighting in old, salvaged IS mechs until we're worth the serious metal, just like you. When you consider the head start IS players may receive, they may have fully-kitted-out mechs during the initial waves of the invasion, whereas the Clan players are still in their starter mechs. The key, which is oft forgotten, is that no one knows yet, with the possible exception of the devs.

That's all.

Ahhhhh you guys are making me feel so old, what about Mechwarrior 1!!!!! Theres a reason the other games were numbered 2, 3, and 4. I know it came out in the 80's and you'd go blind now trying to decipher the graphics (probably why I wear glasses today ) but it did exist. I swear it did.

[Shootanoob]

Better do one thing good than two things bad. Balancing IS only will be enough of a challenge for the start. And: without all those fancy high-end stuff, it'll be good old BT once again! For me, just fine!