SlXSlXSlX, on 14 January 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:
Premades do win all the time. Matches have lopsided ending results quite often, in fact it is the norm. Anecdotes aside, 4 man premades in 8 man matches was a terrible idea, and has resulted in exactly what we see before us. You can look at pub farming favorably if you want, most founders do. (Not all)
SIXSIXSIX your math has yet to improve...still.
4 man "premade" wins all their matches and therefore...now see if you can follow this next bit it's a toughy because of the math.
8 players on a team win a match 4 are in a premade the other 4 are?
a) Magical gnomes who only appear to 4 man premades to fill the ranks.
b ) Unicorns dancing in the fields of daisies while evil premades stomp on kittens to practice pugstomping.
c) PuG players who also just won a match.
All fancyfull anicdotes about SIXSIXSIX and his strange life experiences that few others can hope to share (we are all stuck in reality tis a shame)
So here is a reality check.
I play MWo.I do so in eight man premades.I do so in 4 man premades and I do so solo as a PuG.I am confident in making the claim that I experience game play in a much broader sense than SIXSIXSIX. Who apparently draws conclusions by only pugging solo and seeing boogie men premades behind every loss he experiences.
When I pug the cause of the losses when they occur is almost always a lack of coordination or experience in my team.I still see incredible displays of ineptitude from my fellow players and when more inept players are on my side my side will lose.
Some of this is caused my new players still learning the ropes.I get this so no biggie for me.However I still see some players in particular who,even after months of play remain inept.This could be low quality machines,poor connections or insisting on joysticks use without fully tweaking the interface.
Whatever the reason I see these players consistantly perform poorly and none too few of them are also very vocal against premades.
Another reality check. 4 man premades lose.Yes this is true,4 mans can and do lose matches.And..gasp...on occation they lose to 8 puggies.I am possitive that 8 puggies can beat a 4 man premade.I have been on both sides of this (a bit of perspective I gain by playing all aspects of MWo). I have been in a 4 man premade that lost to 8 pugs.I have been in with the 8 pugs when we beat a premade.This does happen.
The biggest enemy to pugs in pug matches is ineptitude.plain and simple it doesn't take a premade to beat 8 random dudes piloting junkers in 8 seperate directions with no concept of focused fire or even a plan of attack.
If your team dishes out more damage to you than the enemy does was it a premade that won or a bunch of morons who lost?
Sometimes I see a puggies type in chat at the begining of the game.
they ask "plan?" and occationally the reply is a complex tactical pearl. "stay together". This is about the exstent of puggie tactics. and guess what even something as simple as stay together they can't get righthalf the time!
Most of the time the question "plan?" is asked to empty air.
Well here is a tip.when the answer is dead air...guess what? you get to make the plan. And you could try something dangerous like...Frozen city for example.
Deploy to D5.form fire line facing ridge, one fast mech recon cave do not engage just report,ECM recon swing wide around dropship tail get eyes on enemy.TAG em if ya got it.
Meanwhile the enemy puggies are saying....plan? erm um...stick together? if anything at all.
Oh hey guess what else? If I'm in a 4 man and a puggie does take command (and the plan is sound) my premade follows orders...gasp! what you say? a premade team playing with puggies for the betterment of the whole?
Edited by Lykaon, 15 January 2013 - 08:22 AM.
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