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[Azru]

Major Scumbag, on 04 March 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

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Dunno about you but I'm actually making a macro to type this for me, I think it is a funny way for team mates to know your pucked up and need help

[NRP]

I doubt this is the reaction the OP was hoping for. Whiners need lots of emotional support and positive reinforcement.

You cowards are failing to provide it.

[Lorcan Lladd]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

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Oh, just shut your trap.
Maybe you feel the need to win these little forum arguments to show off and feel good about yourself - but some of us are here to have a discussion, not to indulge you.

[Terror Teddy]

Cache, on 04 March 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

This.


Kind of like this...

A very perfect description.

[Commander Kobold]

maybe the defender bonus will encourage people to go kill/shoo the capping lights... that is if anyone is light enough to get back in time

[Terror Teddy]

Lorcan Lladd, on 04 March 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

Oh, just shut your trap.
Maybe you feel the need to win these little forum arguments to show off and feel good about yourself - but some of us are here to have a discussion, not to indulge you.

It's not to "win" an argument - it's to try an pummel some sense into small minded people making sweeping insulting remarks about a large amount of players because THEY know the RIGHT way to play the game.

Or perhaps making snide remarks about casual players IS your prefered way of having a discussion, I dont know, I really don't care.

I don't go around making long posts about how premades are the scourge one way or the other but I DO tend to respond to childish posts with no thought behind them.

Especially when such arguments can be EASILY turned back.

[Vasces Diablo]

Cache, on 04 March 2013 - 02:33 PM, said:

This.


Kind of like this...

Firefly Reference?!?!

In my opinion sir, you have won this thread.

[Lorcan Lladd]

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

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You really like to make sweeping generalizations yourself, not to mention vast and over-reaching assumptions about me - perhaps you should correct your own behavior before you go about posting these disingenuous and insulting remarks of yours.

My reply was directed to the OP and its purpose was to concisely explain why so many puggers adopt the 'killstealing' behavior which is detailed in his post.
Ultimately it doesn't matter if one or two 'Mechs 'steal' his kills as long as his team wins; his statistics might suffer for it, but then again, if he were concerned about those, he probably shouldn't be pugging anyway.

Pilots are awarded more XP for assists, damage done and component destructions than killshots, at any rate, so I don't see what would be the point for a reward system as it was suggested by the OP.

As for me - I've been nothing but supportive of the pug community in MWO as I myself pug and premade both about 50/50.

Think long and hard before you start throwing these accusations around.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 04 March 2013 - 02:57 PM.

[Cache]

Vasces Diablo, on 04 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

Firefly Reference?!?!

I found it at work an hour ago but couldn't post. I was worried that someone would beat me to it. I'm almost ashamed nobody did.

[MaddMaxx]

I am more concerned with the Defense Bonus. In one stroke, they have reverse the old trend of "is anyone gonna stop the Cap" to "Wait! Not everyone has to go back to save the base ffs!"

Hope they all buffed their Rear armors... lol

[Terror Teddy]

Lorcan Lladd, on 04 March 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

You really like to make sweeping generalizations yourself, not to mention vast and over-reaching assumptions about me - perhaps you should correct your own behavior before you go about posting these disingenuous and insulting remarks of yours.

Not really, the way your post was written it REALLY sounds like a generalization about PUG's with a lot of the way non-casual players tend to voice their less than entertaining opinions.

My reaction was I agree - less than mature but I DO think I responded in kind. That said, If I DID misunderstand your post then I DO apologize.

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My reply was directed to the OP and its purpose was to concisely explain why so many puggers adopt the 'killstealing' behavior which is detailed in his post.

It would have helped if you had quoted some of his post because it really did sound like someone berating casual players and not simply giving a possible explanation (one I dont agree with but that is another issue).

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Ultimately it doesn't matter if one or two 'Mechs 'steal' his kills as long as his team wins; his statistics might suffer for it, but then again, if he were concerned about those, he probably shouldn't be pugging anyway.

Nice, then we agree

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I've been nothing but supportive of the pug community in MWO as I myself pug and premade both about 50/50.
Think long and hard before you start throwing these accusations around.

As I said, this is about a misunderstanding to your post, I think I responded in kind,

It was a misunderstanding and we both agree on the issue.

[Viper69]

Major Scumbag, on 04 March 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Only ***** here is you. Asked a question and a child has to make comments like this. Asked a question and you start flaming. Go somewhere else to call names. Coward.

You sure did pick the right callsign.

[Terror Teddy]

Viper69, on 04 March 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

You sure did pick the right callsign.

With that name I could mistake him for someone who's trolling.

[Mr G]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 04 March 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Why,Why would you be upset at all for someone killing a guy that is trying to kill you? Please inform me the reasoning behind being upset in any way.

Zellbrigen

The only problem I have with "KSing" are the accidental team kills when someone dashes in front of a shot to finish a mech off. Otherwise I think these additions might have a positive effect on pug play.

[Viper69]

Could be.

To be fair though they need to omit the kill stat period and just put damage alone on there. Kills went out of style in rise of the triad multiplayer.

Terror Teddy, on 04 March 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

With that name I could mistake him for someone who's trolling.

[Terror Teddy]

Mr G, on 04 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Zellbrigen

That should hardly matter.

There would be a declaration of challenge in that case and not simply people shooting each other. Besides, if someone interferes in such a challenge does he not risk becoming a target in that case? Clan allowed friendly fire?

[Mr G]

Was mostly making a joke about how some people, the OP seemingly one of them, seem to think dealing damage to a target means they called dibs. Wasn't explicitly naming the practice as the culprit. So much for my budding career as a comedian.

[Azalraku]

How many trolls does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

I love you all and think you're each special in your own great way. Why not take a nice hot bath and sip on some cocoa?

Remember kids, santa wont get you any presents if you're naughty.


... Also, killstealers = LoL players.

...Double also, I play LoL.


... Gunastealyerkillbro

[LauLiao]

Sorry to interrupt all the name calling and whatnot, but I have a question about this "savior bonus". Does anyone know how it will actually work? Does this mean if I pump a shot into a spider with a blown JJ I will immediately become worth more points to the enemy for the rest of the round? Or do I actually have to be physically in the act of attacking the enemy? That is, am I only worth the points while my lasers are firing, or my missles/projectiles are in the air on their way to the target? Or do I have to have him (only?) target locked?

[Grimm Peaper]

It sounds like the majority of the posters are misinterpreting what the OP meant. There is a difference between focus firing down an enemy and then there's purposely hiding and waiting until both the enemy and teammate is almost dead and then firing to get the last money shot kill.

It does not help your team to purposely leave your buddy hanging, not firing a single shot so that you can "save ammo" and not take any damage, and then jump in for that final killshot.