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[Bilbo]

Ryvucz, on 17 September 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

Like anyone with any sense about them actually pays attention to any kind of reviewer.

Try the game yourself, I say.

But of course, there's always that group that wants their hand held.

"What's the best cheese competitive build?"

The best aspect of the f2p model. The only thing any player loses is the time it takes to download and install.

[Windies]

The funny thing is that none of this really matters, the game still pretty much sucks and will fail based on it's own merits and performance and not some inane metacritic user review score. It's just hilarious to see all the white knights get all bent out of shape whenever their excuses have run out and it turns into a troll fest.

I gave the game a 1 on metacritic and wrote a pretty thorough user review. Sure it's not unbiased, I'm not foolish enough to think there's even such a thing as being unbiased. You either like something or you don't like something, there's no real way to be unbiased. What I did do though is rate it based on it's entertainment value and on it's merits, which frankly are very few and far between at this point. I'm not worried about killing the game with my review, I just wanted to voice my opinion. I don't care that people are trying to sandbag with 10's and 0's.

[ZonbiBadger]

Thirdstar, on 17 September 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

What positive attitude? Calling a **** a rose is grounds for mental rehabilitation, not a Nobel prize for fostering peace and love.

And I'd just as soon not hang around fools at all. Make no mistake, the people giving MWO 10/10 are most certainly fools more so than the ones giving it 0/10.

One requires anger or hate, the other requires delusions. Anger is transitory, delusions are forever.

How does it make people more foolish? You can give a 0/10 without knowing anything about the game just as much as giving a 10/10.

[Victor Morson]

ZonbiBadger, on 17 September 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

That makes you an entitled brat.

Being lied to and responding with a negative vote = being an entitled brat. Got ya!

Granted I'm not rating the game 0. As stated, I don't want the game to die, I want it to get fixed. But anyone who wants it to die that left, because they feel what PGI is doing to MechWarrior akin to the infamous George Lucas Southpark episode, I cannot blame.

Edited by Victor Morson, 17 September 2013 - 01:26 PM.

[Sean von Steinike]

I gave it 5.

[ZonbiBadger]

Windies, on 17 September 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

The funny thing is that none of this really matters, the game still pretty much sucks and will fail based on it's own merits and performance and not some inane metacritic user review score. It's just hilarious to see all the white knights get all bent out of shape whenever their excuses have run out and it turns into a troll fest.

I gave the game a 1 on metacritic and wrote a pretty thorough user review. Sure it's not unbiased, I'm not foolish enough to think there's even such a thing as being unbiased. You either like something or you don't like something, there's no real way to be unbiased. What I did do though is rate it based on it's entertainment value and on it's merits, which frankly are very few and far between at this point. I'm not worried about killing the game with my review, I just wanted to voice my opinion. I don't care that people are trying to sandbag with 10's and 0's.

If you don't care about the game because it is so horrible, why are you still on here?

[Shumabot]

ZonbiBadger, on 17 September 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

That makes you an entitled brat.



I'm guessing you are trying to imply that your negativity is justified because you are changing something that is headed for disaster?

No, my negativity is justified because I sent out the warning months ago and the ship ran aground. The entire point of a negative review is to communicate to others that you don't think the item in question is good. I don't. It's awful. Ergo, the negative review indicating a lack of quality is working as intended and is thusly justified.

That said I wouldn't write a review on metacritic if you put a gun to my head. Gotta have standards, y'know?

[Praehotec8]

Raging on metacritic is a bad idea. Mechwarrior is an awesome franchise, and right now all we have is MWO. If MWO fails, how soon (if ever) will someone pick up the license? 5 years? 10? I would rather MWO do okay for a while before it folds, so that other developers will be willing to take the property someday.

Aside from that, there is a genuinely fun mech game underneath the issues. I think PGI was overambitious in its promises, and the public believed all of them. Two years from preproduction to launch really isn't very long, especially for a smaller studio. It's not really that surprising that we don't have a completed product yet. However, too many promises were made and broken, and this certainly is not a true "release". Assuming the game does not go under from the bad press and player negativity, I think one day we might see a decent completed game It might not be EXACTLY what every individual thought it ought to be, but I think close enough to be worth playing. Hopefully we'll all get there to see it. I do think though, if PGI can DELIVER at least some of what they promised in the next couple of months, we'll be alright.

[jper4]

it's up to a 4.9 now. was at 2.3 when i read this earlier.

[ZonbiBadger]

Shumabot, on 17 September 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

just giving extreme examples to match your vitriol and hyperbole. I'd have thought you would have learned to deal with that by now steiner, you've been a mindless sycophant for at least a year while the house burned down around you. You must have learned SOMETHING in that interim.

If noting else, you can at least take away the fact that in all those arguments I was right, and you were wrong.

Using "big" words doesn't make you less hostile.

ZonbiBadger, on 17 September 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Using "big" words doesn't make you less hostile.

Or more right.

[Solomon Ward]

Metacritic is so messed up.

I want to str*ngle all those 10`s and 0´s.

[AlexEss]

Lostdragon, on 17 September 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

It now looks like metacritic is trending toward about a 5, which I honestly think is a fair score for the game as is.

This i can agree with.. 4-6 is a proper range until U.I 2.0 goes in and then a 5-7 depending on how fast we start to see phase one of CW.

[WarHippy]

I gave it a four. I didn't cover everything I wanted to talk about, but I touched on a number of topics that I see as problems as well as the fact the devs being a detriment to their own game. I still see potential, but I fear it will go unexplored.

[Lostdragon]

AlexEss, on 17 September 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

This i can agree with.. 4-6 is a proper range until U.I 2.0 goes in and then a 5-7 depending on how fast we start to see phase one of CW.

Yeah, provided UI 2.0 and CW don't suck If UI 2.0 is good, CW is good, they get DX 11 and SLI working properly I would say the game has the potential to be an 8-10 game.

[DragonsFire]

I've seen at least 3 instances of a particular user posting his 'review' on there, and 1 other one that has the same review copied word for word.

This shows precisely why Metacritic can be a terrible place for feedback when even a small number of upset individuals can so readily manipulate the system.

I generally find it best to not let that site try and tell me how much fun I should or shouldn't be having with a game, and this is a prime example of why.

[PropagandaWar]

Shumabot, on 17 September 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

No, you're just bad with your money and now you're mad that you didn't think failure was possible. It's why commercials for investment have to remind you that investing comes with risk of loss. Welcome to crowdfunding, it's a roll of the dice. You ever wonder why no publisher would take their game?

Why is it you come out of your hole on days like today. Sheesh don't see you around ever yet here you are today. Go rile up Star Citizen members. I don't think one thing has ever come positive from you in regards to MWO.

[CtrlAltWheee]

The people giving it a zero are mentally ill.

[D1al T0ne]

I dropped by and gave it a 6/10.

The people giving it 0-1 reviews have some sort of nerdrage induced vendetta against the game. This will serve no purpose other than to bring in fewer players and less revenue which is entirely counterproductive to those of us that actually want everything that was promised.

The people giving it a 9-10 either work for PGI/IGP or are rating the game based on what they hope it will be in another couple years of development. This is just as misleading as the people giving it horribly negative reviews as people will think that this game is everything that it's been promised to be, which it simply isn't. When they play the game for a while and discover the high reviews are mostly white knighting {Scrap}, then they'll leave too.

I think a 6/10 is fair for a game that isn't anywhere near finished, but still manages to remain playable and fun.

[stinkypuppy]

i hope PGI gets their mind set right and releases what they promised in at least 2-6 months. if they go past that i will just consider the game a failure. i hope they use the additional money from phoenix to hire more employees to get this stuff done better and faster rather than using the money to fuel their cars that run on pure 100 dollar bills.

[FLes]

Praehotec8, on 17 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Raging on metacritic is a bad idea. Mechwarrior is an awesome franchise, and right now all we have is MWO. If MWO fails, how soon (if ever) will someone pick up the license? 5 years? 10? I would rather MWO do okay for a while before it folds, so that other developers will be willing to take the property someday.

Depends on what you think as a failure. I think it already failed big time.

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Aside from that, there is a genuinely fun mech game underneath the issues. I think PGI was overambitious in its promises, and the public believed all of them. Two years from preproduction to launch really isn't very long, especially for a smaller studio. It's not really that surprising that we don't have a completed product yet. However, too many promises were made and broken, and this certainly is not a true "release".

Stop trying to sweeten it up. I don't care if it's not completed yet. I didn't want PGI to lie and **** upon me, and I wanted them to give me kind of game they promised.