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[Lyoto Machida]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Looking back, at the begining of the year. They Took a few good months to make the UI 2.0 and that was leading up to feb. Who knows what they can do from jan-Feb, next year.



I need those three phases to be my Sig

How do you actually know how long it took them to make anything? All we really know is when things were released.

BMW could have the 2019 M3 finished but they're not going to roll it out until they sell all of the M3s from the current body style.

I mean, this is the same PGI that said 90 days after launch and then admitted they hadn't worked on it until after the license renewal.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

It's still an old complain. The latest timeline they gave *last December* is for it to come out this year. You're complaining about old issues that no longer apply. They've pretty much hit every single deadline they've laid out this year.

You're complaining about old news. It's 2014. Time to let go of the past and accept reality.

I can not believe 90 days is even being spoken. Unable to get past, the 90 days venture because it wounded him so. your gonna ignore the whole year because of some 90 days estimate. Sheesh.

I am not even gonna give that response a thought, they crushed that when they Hit association.

Its really about what they can do after the year. Let 2012-13 go. You can touch it, you cant see it, and you cant change it. You can only remember it but it's nulled by the 2014 development.

Much improvement is still to be had. They definitely have their work cut out for them

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 12:11 PM.

[Heffay]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

I can not believe 90 days is even being spoken.

Gotta stay on message! It's like dealing with the Tea Party around here. Facts are irrelevant. STAY ON MESSAGE!!!

[BLOOD WOLF]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

Gotta stay on message! It's like dealing with the Tea Party around here. Facts are irrelevant. STAY ON MESSAGE!!!

[Tanreh]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

Age of Conan

Well...Age of Conan actually hit that spot after leaving the Noob Island (which was brilliant in my mind)...so about level 20..^^

[Tanreh]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

CW isn't supposed to be done until the end of the year. This is just one step towards it. They've been hitting their deadlines, so saying "it's not here" is akin to complaining about the meal you ordered at a restaurant right after the server walks away.

"Sure, it's a Michelin 3 star restaurant, but I've been waiting for 0.5 seconds! The food SUCKS here!"

Seriously?

If I go into a restaurant and order a meal, I expect it to arrive the same day....I will not be happy if after 2 days the soup arrives and I comment

'Hey great, everything is fine...the soup is liquid...'

(while stil waiting for the main course...)

Edited by Tanreh, 27 August 2014 - 01:05 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Tanreh, on 27 August 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

Seriously?

If I go into a restaurant and order a meal, I expect it to arrive the same day....I will not be happy if after 2 days the soup arrives and I comment

'Hey great, everything is fine...the soup is liquid...'

(while stil waiting for the main course...)

I think you took it to a extreme. 0.5 seconds vs 2 days.

[Tanreh]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 10:04 AM, said:

I think what a lot of people are missing here is that. Once they get these features out the way, becuase they are major features they tie up the devs from doing other things.

People then to look at the clan release as just the mechs. They were however had new HUDS, they had different weapons and functionality. Not to mention the Lunch module and MM revamp was happening and needed to be put in the game. 2014 There was a whole lot going and not much room for CW. They still have much more to do.

NOW, that is all out the way. Not only that we hit association, which means the next module is not to far behind. This free's up so much dev time to be done in other areas and general improvements to the game.

Of course there will be tweaks, the game is never done in a sense. That is a recap

This whole year was just the Road to CW and the eventual release. There is time for improvement.

I think it as curious that you mention the HUDS as a major point here. I always had the impression that the HUDS (while for sure it is some of the vision they create for you) is much easier to do than in many other MMOs.
With MWO you present an outlook (depending on your current mech) with FIXED locations for several information windows [Minimap, Display of enemy, Display of own mech....]
In nearly every other MMO I know (speaking of many MMORPG games) those information were given in *display areas* which every single player could arrange for himself. Somehow I rate this as more complicated....

Perhaps I am misunderstanding something here....in this case I apologize....but adding features to MWO which are baseline for many games is not really a reason to be enthusiastic about them.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 01:13 PM, said:

I think you took it to a extreme. 0.5 seconds vs 2 days.

90 days 2 years plus?

[Heffay]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

90 days 2 years plus?

The 90 day quote hasn't been accurate in a long time. The most recent one is what you should be referencing. Otherwise you're whining about stuff that is no longer valid.

It's just a dog whistle to let people know you have no patience.

Edited by Heffay, 27 August 2014 - 01:16 PM.

[Tanreh]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 01:13 PM, said:

I think you took it to a extreme. 0.5 seconds vs 2 days.

No, I think it is the other way around....

O.5 seconds is basically a very extreme time taken in the example before.

That time would have been appropriate if CW was promised for last week and we are cursing about its non-existence now.....not if it was promised nearly 2 years ago

[BLOOD WOLF]

Tanreh, on 27 August 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

No, I think it is the other way around....

O.5 seconds is basically a very extreme time taken in the example before.

That time would have been appropriate if CW was promised for last week and we are cursing about its non-existence now.....not if it was promised nearly 2 years ago

Who is still hurt over 2 years ago. Its coming this year(few months to be exact, stop being sour for no good reason. You get what was promised, and more will come. Who cares or even dwells on something 2 years ago. That is the longest grudge I have seen on a forum.

I cant even believe i am entertaining the thought, because it is 2 years later, it is disregarded? its CW, who cares if it should have been. If i can play it know that should be all that matters.

To be fair, it will probably need some work after release. The strategy of fast release has not always worked in favor.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 27 August 2014 - 01:29 PM.

[Heffay]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

Who is still hurt over 2 years ago. Its coming this yea, stop being sour for no good reason. You get what was promised, and more will come. Who cares or even dwells on something 2 years ago. That is the longest grudge I have seen on a forum.

Oh man, I've seen a lot worse. WoW forums for example. Some people STILL haven't let go that they let the Alliance have shaman. It's been going on 7 years!

Also related: The constant predictions that WoW is going to die any day as a result of this decision.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

The 90 day quote hasn't been accurate in a long time. The most recent one is what you should be referencing. Otherwise you're whining about stuff that is no longer valid.

It's just a dog whistle to let people know you have no patience.

It's no longer valid because they missed the date by years so pulled another date out their arse and magically you beleive them?

[Tanreh]

BLOOD WOLF, on 27 August 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

Who is still hurt over 2 years ago. Its coming this yea, stop being sour for no good reason. You get what was promised, and more will come. Who cares or even dwells on something 2 years ago. That is the longest grudge I have seen on a forum.

I cant even believe i am entertaining the thought, because it is 2 years later, it is disregarded? its CW, who cares if it should have been. If i can play it know that should be all that matters.

Well, I just guess we have vastly different opinions here. It has been stated several times by other people here...but you seem to have you own point of view on this topic. That's okay for me. Everybody should have his own point of view...

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 01:16 PM, said:

The 90 day quote hasn't been accurate in a long time. The most recent one is what you should be referencing. Otherwise you're whining about stuff that is no longer valid.

It's just a dog whistle to let people know you have no patience.

Oh...so it would be okay if a promise if postphoned multiple times...again and again...and than only the latest promise in a row is the one which is relevant?

Arhm...say....I guess you are not in the money-lending business, are you? ^^

[Heffay]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

It's no longer valid because they missed the date by years so pulled another date out their arse and magically you beleive them?

Well, considering they've hit EVERY SINGLE GOAL this year on time (or within a week)...yes. Why wouldn't you?

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well, considering they've hit EVERY SINGLE GOAL this year on time (or within a week)...yes. Why wouldn't you?

Thats not EVERY SINGLE GOAL ON TIME then is it.............

[Tanreh]

Heffay, on 27 August 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

Well, considering they've hit EVERY SINGLE GOAL this year on time (or within a week)...yes. Why wouldn't you?

Perhaps because some of the goals they set are very....hmmm....low?

And if I take a look at all the complaints about the Unit functionality [look at patch forum] I cannot really say they achieved that goal.
In fact I was laughing quite hard when I read about all the problems of a newly and in grand manner advertised function, which is baseline for many other games and after two years they are kind of doing some hilarious errors with the base functions.

BTW it is the same with UI2.0. While the overview of the mechs has clearly improved, I just want to scream every time I have to comfirm a Save of a mech configuration with 3 ...in words THREE clicks. This is just not professional

Edited by Tanreh, 27 August 2014 - 01:59 PM.

[Roland]

"You can't be upset about this feature being two years late, because the fact it's two years late means that the original promise was made two whole years ago!"

Derp.

[Tanreh]

DV McKenna, on 27 August 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

Thats not EVERY SINGLE GOAL ON TIME then is it.............

Yes, I was going to point out the same....

when does it go like

They hit every goal this month
They hit every goal this week

They haven't missed a goal today.....