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[CK16]

https://mwomercs.com...r-camo-pattern/

And, go!

[Odanan]

FupDup, on 05 December 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:

Not until you unlock them with Skill Points.

Actually, Russ recently said some mechs will keep quirks even before you unlock anything in the skill tree, as a matter of balance.

[Odanan]

Is this what you wanted to show us, Bishop?


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Edited by Odanan, 19 December 2016 - 05:59 PM.

[TheArisen]

Odanan, on 19 December 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

Is this what you wanted to show us, Bishop?


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[-Skyrider-]

Anyone hyped for announcing the new light mech? (probably the firemoth)

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

HBS melee is beautiful.

[Requiemking]

-Skyrider-, on 19 December 2016 - 07:08 PM, said:

Anyone hyped for announcing the new light mech? (probably the firemoth)

Probably not considering engine limitations. I'm just hopeful that it isn't the Piranha.

[Odanan]

Requiemking, on 19 December 2016 - 11:35 PM, said:

Probably not considering engine limitations. I'm just hopeful that it isn't the Piranha.

Hopefully not Piranha (or machineguns will need to be nerfed to oblivion).

And hopefully Fire Moth (just do it, PGI).

[TheArisen]

What's with the Piranha hate? It'd be the better than the Fmoth. It's Cmgs give it epic class DPS. But it's a 20t mech so it'd die pretty easily.

[Pariah Devalis]

Should really be "Fire Moth Confirmed?" but Kana didn't think it sounded like clickbait given he confirmed it will happen. Just not when.

[MedivalJ]

TheArisen, on 20 December 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

What's with the Piranha hate? It'd be the better than the Fmoth. It's Cmgs give it epic class DPS. But it's a 20t mech so it'd die pretty easily.

I'm not entirely sure why both can't be added? The FMoth and Piranha would be great additions to the game. Also, others have vocalized their support for the flea in previous posts as well.

[Pariah Devalis]

MedivalJ, on 20 December 2016 - 10:05 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure why both can't be added? The FMoth and Piranha would be great additions to the game. Also, others have vocalized their support for the flea in previous posts as well.

I mean, Prime, Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and Delta all exist with current tech, and the hero Aletha uses current tech. You could do up to 7 ERSLas and an ECM on the Fire Moth. I would not recommend more than 6 ERSLas, but even 6 ERSLas and an ECM on a light, especially one moving 200 kph+, is freakin' NUTS.

Without the hero, you could do 4x SPLas and ECM, or 4x ERSLas, 2x MG, and ECM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Odanan, on 19 December 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

Is this what you wanted to show us, Bishop?


Melee in Battletech (HBS)!!!

(now PGI, it's your turn)

...

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yeah, couldn't get the gif to show properly for some dang reason.

[Odanan]

TheArisen, on 20 December 2016 - 09:46 PM, said:

What's with the Piranha hate? It'd be the better than the Fmoth. It's Cmgs give it epic class DPS. But it's a 20t mech so it'd die pretty easily.

Simply because it would be absolutely OP.

No hitbox and negative quirks can compensate the fact that, once you get close to the enemy, you can accurately apply 15.56 damage per second to a component (without building heat). That means 3 seconds to strip ALL armor of the CT of any medium mech, plus 2 seconds to clean the internal structure (no mentioning the crits).

Are you comfort with a lightening fast mech that can kill others in a few seconds?

Myself, I would prefer a MWO were you have options other than the Piranha...

[Ovion]

Odanan, on 21 December 2016 - 03:41 AM, said:

Simply because it would be absolutely OP.

No hitbox and negative quirks can compensate the fact that, once you get close to the enemy, you can accurately apply 15.56 damage per second to a component (without building heat). That means 3 seconds to strip ALL armor of the CT of any medium mech, plus 2 seconds to clean the internal structure (no mentioning the crits).

Are you comfort with a lightening fast mech that can kill others in a few seconds?

Myself, I would prefer a MWO were you have options other than the Piranha...

Would be roughly Commando Sized.
107pts of armour (optimised)
16T of space (not including engine)

If it's stuck with its default XL180 as the max cap:
7.5T, 25 slots

If it gets to use a XL200 (I don't think higher as it would hit that zone where PGI is worried it'll break the engine and HSR), then:
6.5T, 27 slots

12CMG = 3T, leaving 3.5T to 4.5T for ammo (7,000 to 9,000 shots)
Firing 120 times a second, that would last for 58 to 75 seconds, at 11.4DPS within 120M.
Allowing for a maximum output of 661.2 to 855 damage.

You could drop 1.5T of ammo, for the Small Lasers, to bring it to 2-3T of ammo (4,000 to 6,000 shots)
Granting a DPS of 14.4 at 120M, sustainable for 33 to 50 seconds, after which the DPS drops to 3DPS at 150M. (I would probably run this build myself)
Allowing for a maximum output of 475.2.2 to 720 damage, plus the results of 3 small lasers once the MG's run dry.

This DPS is reliant on the mech with 33 CT Health and 28ST Health, holding position on a single component for the duration:
2-3 seconds for the rear of a light mech / 3-4 seconds for the front.
5-10 seconds for the rear of an assault / 10-19 seconds for the front

With torso twisting / people who aren't idiots, I'd say increase those numbers by at least 50% for heavier mechs, if not 100-300% on lighter mechs, meaning any given mech would likely average 15-20 seconds of sustained fire.

So it would be a terrifying 150kph to 170kph monster, at 120M or less, for up to a minute, and would be able to shake hands with 2 to 4 mechs - and make them kinda sad.

In return, for 33/15CT health, 20/12 ST health and 24 leg health (potentially up to 30 leg health), meaning most things will take it out in 1-2 alphas themselves.

Very much Risk-Reward.

[SlightlyMobileTurret]

To be fair, it wouldn't be unusual if they released the Piranha just after MG buff.

They nerfed UAC5/10 when they released the Ultraviolet, coincidentally with 8B option and UAC2 buff.

They buffed C-DHS just before the release of a predominantly laser assault mech, which coincidentally would not be able to alpha twice with the 2LPL 5ERML or 2/6 pre-patch because of the lower capacity.

And the blatant power-creep with the last few mechpacks.

I'm not salty about game balance because of how good it is right now (props to PGI) but the power-creep makes me feel really bad.

[Odanan]

Whatever it is the next mech, it's coming fast! Hopefully ultra fast! (in one week the Roughneck early rewards will be over)

BTW, Merry Christmas, Mechwarriors!

[Odanan]

Next week?

[CK16]

Odanan, on 27 December 2016 - 09:00 AM, said:

Next week?

I am still hoping this week >.>

Buy yes I would happy with this, 2nd best for me is Cougar (for a few reasons, few involve how good or bad it is )

[Odanan]

Something for playing while you wait for the Fire Moth.
(or HBS' Battletech)

Now imagine if there was this mini-game inside MWO, so you can play while waiting for a match... (PGI, please?)