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[Odanan]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 January 2018 - 03:43 AM, said:

Yeah, they may as well add the Hellhound as a canon Clan design. It wouldn't be the first time an IS name for a Clan 'mech was also used as the name for a different 'mech.

Look at the Nova AKA Black Hawk. Nova to the Clans, Black Hawk to the IS. Lead to the development of the IS OmniMech the Black Hawk-KU. Also lead to development of the Clan BattleMech the Black Hawk.

Not to mention the Mad Cat MKII!

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 January 2018 - 03:43 AM, said:

So make the Hellhound a Clan OmniMech. Done. It even mirrors the Nova/Black Hawk. Wolverine (BM) to Wolverine IIC Conjurer/Hellhound (BM) to Hellhound (OM).

Omni? I'm not sure about that... (but wouldn't complain either)

[Jay Leon Hart]

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 03:51 AM, said:

Omni? I'm not sure about that... (but wouldn't complain either)

Just to further differentiate the chassis, such as with the Clan Nova & Clan Black Hawk. Then the IS would be fighting both a BM "Hellhound" and an OM Hellhound, instead of a BM "Hellhound" and a different BM Hellhound.

[Odanan]

Just look at it:



It's beautiful.

Now, after the Blood Asp next month, it's safe to assume we will get the Argus, right?

[Ovion]

Updated charts!

[SuperFunkTron]

Ovion, on 06 January 2018 - 05:59 AM, said:

Updated charts!

Your charts make it painfully clear how badly more clan mediums are needed to help balance the proportions of available mechs between the clan and IS. I thin that at least 3 of the next 8 clan releases should be mediums

[-Skyrider-]

I feel like when pgi finally decides to put IS omnis into the game there going to put them in as bigger packs. Either two groups of 4 mechs or one group of 6, and could also tag on a couple bonus mechs if they really wanted to. Like what they've done when introducing the clan mechs or the timeline jump mechs. And I have a bit of hunch they might come out sometime late this year, about any time after July. And heres a bit of a top ten picks for these omnimech choices,

Raptor 25 tons
Owens 35 tons
Strider 40 tons
Men Shen 55 tons
Blackhawk KU 60 tons
Avatar 70 tons
Perseus 75 tons
Templar 85 tons
Sunder 90 tons
Hauptmann 95 tons

And yes even with the worries about locking engines and other things I feel like they will put them in anyways and think of away around it as an excuse.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 January 2018 - 02:20 AM, said:

Hm, if I had to wish for the next 11 months...

Feb - Blood Asp - Rounds off the Piranha, Black Lanner & Sun Spider releases with an Assault. Adds an OmniMech to the 90 ton range. Potentially an OmniMech counterpart to the Mad Cat Mk II.
Mar - Raptor - Rounds off the Thanatos, Hellspawn & Fafnir release with a Light. Adds IS OkniMechs to the game. Adds another 25 tonner. Boats all the lasers.
Apr - Fire Falcon - A faster 25 tonner with good weapon options.
May - Black Hawk-KU - A larger IS Nova. Adds another OmniMech. Adds an excellent energy platform to the 60 ton range. Boats all the lasers.
Jun - Hellfire - Adds another 60 tonner. Adds a BattleMech to the 60 to range. Excellent energy boating potential.
Jul - Komodo - A smaller IS Nova. Comes with ECM. Boats all the lasers.
Aug - Vapor Eagle - Adds a BattleMech to the 55 ton range. Great weapon options.
Sep - Gunslinger - Adds another 85 tonner. Great torso mounts. Excellent ballistic + energy potential. Comes with ECM.
Oct - Canis - Adds another 80 tonner. Adds a BattleMech to the 80 ton range. Great torso mounts.
Nov - Dragon Fire - Has a good spread of ballistic + energy. Comes with ECM.
Dec - Hellion - A faster 30 tonner. Swaps ECM for MASC. Good weapon options.

Honourable mentions;
Crimson Langur, Rabid Coyote, Razorback, Huron Warrior, Men Shen, Jinggau, Bandersnatch, Falconer, Toyama, Legacy, Templar, Emperor, Cerberus, Sagittaire, Devastator, Vanquisher

I see a severe lack of IIC's and unseens, which in September should be the final ultimatum of what happens for that court fiasco. If anything after September, the mechs released from there on out should strictly be the two categories listed.

[Odanan]

SuperFunkTron, on 06 January 2018 - 08:12 AM, said:

Your charts make it painfully clear how badly more clan mediums are needed to help balance the proportions of available mechs between the clan and IS. I thin that at least 3 of the next 8 clan releases should be mediums

Good thing we have a lot of good options for Clan medium mechs. My preferred:

• MW4's Hellhound (50 tons battlemech)
  
• Coyotl (40 tons omnimech)
  
• Vapor Eagle (55 tons battlemech)

Phantom is interesting with micro lasers, but has no tons for anything bigger than an ER Medium Laser.
Pouncer is a relevant mech, but with Cougar and Adder just 5 tons lighter, it really doesn't feel urgent.
Mongrel is an Ice Ferret that trades a little speed for jump jets.

[Metus regem]

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

Good thing we have a lot of good options for Clan medium mechs. My preferred:

• MW4's Hellhound (50 tons battlemech)
  
• Coyotl (40 tons omnimech)
  
• Vapor Eagle (55 tons battlemech)

Phantom is interesting with micro lasers, but has no tons for anything bigger than an ER Medium Laser.
Pouncer is a relevant mech, but with Cougar and Adder just 5 tons lighter, it really doesn't feel urgent.
Mongrel is an Ice Ferret that trades a little speed for jump jets.

You get a like for the Coyotl, she is a beastly little thing....

I think the best thing for the MW4 Hellhound, would be to make an omni, perhaps either 4/6 or 6/9 just to make it different than the Nova or Huntsmen.

[TheArisen]

Metus regem, on 06 January 2018 - 10:48 AM, said:

You get a like for the Coyotl, she is a beastly little thing....

I think the best thing for the MW4 Hellhound, would be to make an omni, perhaps either 4/6 or 6/9 just to make it different than the Nova or Huntsmen.

I think it was a missed oportunity for a PGI created mech.

[Jay Leon Hart]

I'm also fond of both the Crimson Langur and Rabid Coyote although I've come around to thinking the Vapor Eagle would be the best new Clan Medium of those available.

[FupDup]

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 03:51 AM, said:

Omni? I'm not sure about that... (but wouldn't complain either)

In the vanilla version of MW4 the Hound did have Omni hardpoints, but MekTek changed it later.

Making it an Omni just makes it easier to differentiate it from the Conjurer and the Nova/Huntsman (current 50-ton Omnis are kinda slow).

[Ovion]

SuperFunkTron, on 06 January 2018 - 08:12 AM, said:

Your charts make it painfully clear how badly more clan mediums are needed to help balance the proportions of available mechs between the clan and IS. I thin that at least 3 of the next 8 clan releases should be mediums

Among others.

Honestly, I think they should ensure we have at least 2 of each tonnage class for IS and Clan before adding more of any given weight.

IS +1 20T, +1 25T, Clan +1 20T, +1 25T, +1 60T, +1 80T, +1 95T.

[Odanan]

Ovion, on 06 January 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

Among others.

Honestly, I think they should ensure we have at least 2 of each tonnage class for IS and Clan before adding more of any given weight.

IS +1 20T, +1 25T, Clan +1 20T, +1 25T, +1 60T, +1 80T, +1 95T.

Easy:
Wasp, Raptor, Fire Moth, Fire Falcon, Hellfire, Warhammer IIC, Turkina.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Ovion, on 06 January 2018 - 12:05 PM, said:

Honestly, I think they should ensure we have at least 2 of each tonnage class for IS and Clan before adding more of any given weight.

IS +1 20T, +1 25T, Clan +1 20T, +1 25T, +1 60T, +1 80T, +1 95T.

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

Easy:
Wasp, Raptor, Fire Moth, Fire Falcon, Hellfire, Warhammer IIC, Turkina.

Alternatively;
Thorn, Raptor, Fire Moth, Fire Falcon, Hellfire, Canis, Turkina PGI original 95 tonner.

[SuperFunkTron]

I think there are two great methods for them to use to determine the next mech:
1. Use the cards from the card game as the available pool of mechs to draw from.
2. Look at which factions are lacking in affiliated mechs and start filling those factions up so we can finally add some dam meat on the bones of CW

[Odanan]

[Ovion]

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 12:39 PM, said:

Don't forget to update the OP with the new charts

[SuperFunkTron]

Odanan, on 06 January 2018 - 10:33 AM, said:

Good thing we have a lot of good options for Clan medium mechs. My preferred:

• MW4's Hellhound (50 tons battlemech)
  
• Coyotl (40 tons omnimech)
  
• Vapor Eagle (55 tons battlemech)

Phantom is interesting with micro lasers, but has no tons for anything bigger than an ER Medium Laser.

Pouncer is a relevant mech, but with Cougar and Adder just 5 tons lighter, it really doesn't feel urgent.
Mongrel is an Ice Ferret that trades a little speed for jump jets.

I think it comes down to the perception of utility on these.
-Phantom will be fast and nimble like a locust with ECM and comparable pay load, something I would love.
-Pouncer would give us a jumping Adder, and much less fragile than the underwhelming cougar
-Mongrel- a jumping ice ferret! what part of that isn't need sooner rather than later!

[Odanan]

Ovion, on 06 January 2018 - 12:47 PM, said:

Don't forget to update the OP with the new charts

I want to ask you something: could you keep an updated single post with your charts? (maybe as the OP of a new thread?) So I can link it without the need to updated it every month.