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[Sereglach]

BarHaid, on 20 March 2019 - 07:08 PM, said:

I think it would be hilarious if we got the Clint IIC before the Clint. I would be frustrated and annoyed, but still. If only PGI had a sense of humor!

I'd love the Clint and Clint IIC. It's currently my top pick for any medium chassis for the IS, and close 3rd behind the Griffin IIC and Shadowhawk IIC for Clan. Sadly, I agree, I doubt PGI has that kind of sense of humor.

Shadowomega1, on 20 March 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

Barhalf they could in theory just drop both at the sametime in a bundle due to it being a light mech.

Clint is a 40t medium mech. Granted, just like the bottom tonnage of any the heavier brackets, 40t is often considered a "heavy light". However, unlike many other 40t mechs, the Clint focuses on being a trooper mech with a big gun and respectable armor . . . even advanced tech sees the mech enhancing armor coverage and weapons payload over speed increases.

Regardless, for PGI concerns, a 40t medium isn't going to get the same kind of price reductions that lights get, as seen by the recent medium sales of the Dervish, Vapor Eagle, Vulcan, Black Lanner, and Hellspawn. Those are the mediums that have released since PGI's new light chassis pricing model, which came with the Javelin.

EDIT: On the other hand, seeing the very similar cosmetic structure between the Clint and Clint IIC (unlike many other IIC mechs), they very well could pull a Charger/Hatamoto-Chi "Evolution" pack and have an IS and Clan version of the mech come out at the same time. That'd be a pretty cost-savvy and lucrative move on PGI's part.

Edited by Sereglach, 20 March 2019 - 09:41 PM.

[Odanan]

Did you see the new MW5 pre-order exclusives?

CATAPULT CPLT-C2(S), WARHAMMER WHM-9D(S), MARAUDER MAD-9M(S), KING CRAB KGC-001(S)

[Jay Leon Hart]

Odanan, on 21 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

Did you see the new MW5 pre-order exclusives?

CATAPULT CPLT-C2(S), WARHAMMER WHM-9D(S), MARAUDER MAD-9M(S), KING CRAB KGC-001(S)

Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

[FLG 01]

Jay Leon Hart, on 21 March 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

Same here. I would pay (real) money for the MAD-9M but not $50, and I am not yet sure about MW:5.

I think PGI would make more money if they sold those Mechs for $10 each.

Also, a MAD-9S would have been more tempting to me. It retains the classic Marauder playstyle but adds hardpoints and an ECM. I can see the appeal of the 9M though.

[BarHaid]

Shadowomega1, on 20 March 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

Barhalf they could in theory just drop both at the sametime in a bundle due to it being a light mech.

Sh*t; is that my new nickname?

[Ovion]

Jay Leon Hart, on 21 March 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

FLG 01, on 21 March 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

Same here. I would pay (real) money for the MAD-9M but not $50, and I am not yet sure about MW:5.

I think PGI would make more money if they sold those Mechs for $10 each.

Also, a MAD-9S would have been more tempting to me. It retains the classic Marauder playstyle but adds hardpoints and an ECM. I can see the appeal of the 9M though.

Page says exclusive, no c-bill release.

[FLG 01]

Ovion, on 22 March 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

Page says exclusive, no c-bill release.

When the posts you quoted were written we had still hope that the "exclusive" part would be for the (S)-variant only and that they'd release standard, non-(S) variants for MC and/or C-Bills, similar to the reward Mechs.

However, with regards to non-(S) variants Russ recently said:
https://twitter.com/...892137112764416

[FLG 01]

... and it has been changed already:
https://twitter.com/...132286111301632

So yes, we get them via C-Bills. Good.

Not the best MAD-9 but better than none.

[CycKath]

Clanbuster King Crab! The List Grows Brothers!

[Sereglach]

The fact that we're finally getting a KGC with missiles in both ST gives me hope we'll eventually get the KGC-010, which is second only to the 009 (which needs Plasma Rifles, MMLs, LACs, and Heavy Duty Gyro) in terms of which variants I like the most.

Also, I'm glad to see PGI reversed what would have been a very poor decision to go outside their normal release structure and not make a (S) or (L) chassis variant eventually acquirable as a standard c-bill version. Even though I have literally zero interest in any of those variants, I wouldn't want PGI to set a very ugly precedent to move forward with.

On the other hand, not even 1 medium or light in the lance, really?! . . . Well, I guess they've already spoiled the end-game boss lance and/or the mechs that the parent-killing pirates used when they set you on your revenge quest . . . and thereby the MW5 "Act/Chapter Bosses" that you'll face as you track the pirates down.

Edited by Sereglach, 22 March 2019 - 03:24 PM.

[Odanan]

Sereglach, on 22 March 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

KGC-010

For one second, I thought it was this variant we were getting, instead of the "Clan Buster".

[Virlutris]

Odanan, on 22 March 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

For one second, I thought it was this variant we were getting, instead of the "Clan Buster".

First thing I checked was the loadout, to see which one it was.

I think "the Gauss one" and the "PPC/missile" one are both pretty cool. I can't usually remember which is which right off the top of my head.

[Grus]

Still no Stone Rhino? #sadface

[Odanan]

Grus, on 22 March 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

Still no Stone Rhino? #sadface

Maybe next month.

Seriously, the Stone Rhino is inevitably coming before MW5's release.

[Shadowomega1]

Odanan, on 23 March 2019 - 03:17 AM, said:

Maybe next month.

Seriously, the Stone Rhino is inevitably coming before MW5's release.

It will be several months we still have a clan light and clan medium to see for the clans before another clan assault mech.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 23 March 2019 - 08:44 PM.

[Odanan]

Shadowomega1, on 23 March 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

It will be several months we still have a clan light and clan medium to see for the clans before another clan assault mech.

So be it.

• April: Fire Falcon (Clan light)
  
• May: Wasp (IS light)
  
• June: Hellhound (Clan medium)
  
• July: Crusader (IS heavy)
  
• August: Stone Rhino (Clan assault)

[jjm1]

Maybe Locust IIC, its got some name recognition. Or maybe surprise Firemoth, because people actually want it to happen, and it's another MW2 mech.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Odanan, on 24 March 2019 - 02:25 AM, said:

So be it.

• April: Fire Falcon (Clan light)
  
• May: Wasp (IS light)
  
• June: Hellhound (Clan medium)
  
• July: Crusader (IS heavy)
  
• August: Stone Rhino (Clan assault)

I've got a strong feeling that April's mech is going to be the Urbanmech IIC. Other strong candidates for the clans are the Griffin IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC and Phoenix Hawk IIC (two mediums and a assault) although I'd rather see the Firemoth even if it is downgraded to get the entire MW2 line up in the game.

For the IS, still possible strong candidates are the Argus, remaining unseens (Crusader, Longbow, Stinger/Wasp, etc.) and others before IS Omnimech consideration. There's also the other loose end mechs like the Turkina, War Dog, Thug, Lightray, Brigand (another pirate mech fitting with the Corsair), Grizzly, etc. although personally I would only throw down IRL money for the Toyama at this point.

[Odanan]

Arnold The Governator, on 24 March 2019 - 05:07 AM, said:

I've got a strong feeling that April's mech is going to be the Urbanmech IIC.

Well, maybe you are right. As far as I can remember the Urbie was released in April 2015.

[Sereglach]

I've said it time and again and provided the proof multiple times (in this thread no less) . . . PGI could do the Firemoth right now, without nerfing it, and without issue. Just like the city map, they need to grow a pair and make it happen.

Russ himself stated that, when they implemented bone-based HSR and fixed the bugs plaguing the HSR system, speed no longer became a limiting factor on what they could do for mechs. That statement was back in 2015/2016 if I remember correctly. Then, on top of that, lets not forget that they've done even more fixes to HSR and net code, improved server stability, AND (probably most importantly) finally increased the minimum specs of the game and implemented mandatory full 64 bit client.

We've already had mechs breaking 171 in the past when speed tweak was 10%; and that was literal years ago. Now, with the way MASC I works, the Fire Moth will only be going 162 * 1.075 for Speed Tweak = 174.15 * 1.1 for MASC = 191.565 KPH. That's only a about a 20kph jump in maximum speed. That's less than the jump that occurred back in approx. 2013 when the maximum speed went from 143.5 to 171 (Commando with 240 engine rating and 10% speed tweak) . . . or a nearly 30kph jump in maximum speed.

Seriously . . . can we PLEASE stop perpetuating this myth that the Fire Moth/Dasher would somehow need to be nerfed or that PGI just can't do it. That hasn't been the case for many years now. All PGI needs to do is work up the guts to actually implement the mech and deal with the fact that some people (mainly Assault primary pilots) would have to deal with another semi-reasonably competitive light mech.

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Odanan, on 24 March 2019 - 02:25 AM, said:

So be it.

• April: Fire Falcon (Clan light)
  
• May: Wasp (IS light)
  
• June: Hellhound (Clan medium)
  
• July: Crusader (IS heavy)
  
• August: Stone Rhino (Clan assault)

If I had it my way . . .
April - Fire Moth/Dasher
May - Mongoose or Brigand
June - Shadowhawk IIC
July - Clint
August - Griffin IIC
September - MW5 Commemorative Launch Pack . . . Valkyrie, Chameleon, Charger, Longbow with Wasp/Stinger combo pack as reinforcements. Include MW5 DLC Codes with each tier purchase and an MW5 Download Code on "Ultimate Pack" purchase.

Most importantly . . . presuming there's an expansion or "surprise" announcement that MW5 goes all the way to the Clan invasion, then ALL of the above listed mechs are viable for MW5 AND they help flesh out some underrepresented weight classes.