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#20101 Shadowomega1

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 07:18 PM

Barhalf they could in theory just drop both at the sametime in a bundle due to it being a light mech.

#20102 Sereglach

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 09:39 PM

View PostBarHaid, on 20 March 2019 - 07:08 PM, said:

I think it would be hilarious if we got the Clint IIC before the Clint. I would be frustrated and annoyed, but still. If only PGI had a sense of humor!

I'd love the Clint and Clint IIC. It's currently my top pick for any medium chassis for the IS, and close 3rd behind the Griffin IIC and Shadowhawk IIC for Clan. Sadly, I agree, I doubt PGI has that kind of sense of humor.

View PostShadowomega1, on 20 March 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

Barhalf they could in theory just drop both at the sametime in a bundle due to it being a light mech.

Clint is a 40t medium mech. Granted, just like the bottom tonnage of any the heavier brackets, 40t is often considered a "heavy light". However, unlike many other 40t mechs, the Clint focuses on being a trooper mech with a big gun and respectable armor . . . even advanced tech sees the mech enhancing armor coverage and weapons payload over speed increases.

Regardless, for PGI concerns, a 40t medium isn't going to get the same kind of price reductions that lights get, as seen by the recent medium sales of the Dervish, Vapor Eagle, Vulcan, Black Lanner, and Hellspawn. Those are the mediums that have released since PGI's new light chassis pricing model, which came with the Javelin.

EDIT: On the other hand, seeing the very similar cosmetic structure between the Clint and Clint IIC (unlike many other IIC mechs), they very well could pull a Charger/Hatamoto-Chi "Evolution" pack and have an IS and Clan version of the mech come out at the same time. That'd be a pretty cost-savvy and lucrative move on PGI's part.

Edited by Sereglach, 20 March 2019 - 09:41 PM.


#20103 Odanan

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 04:59 PM

Did you see the new MW5 pre-order exclusives?

CATAPULT CPLT-C2(S), WARHAMMER WHM-9D(S), MARAUDER MAD-9M(S), KING CRAB KGC-001(S)

#20104 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:05 PM

View PostOdanan, on 21 March 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:


Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

#20105 FLG 01

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:14 PM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 21 March 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

Same here. I would pay (real) money for the MAD-9M but not $50, and I am not yet sure about MW:5.

I think PGI would make more money if they sold those Mechs for $10 each.

Also, a MAD-9S would have been more tempting to me. It retains the classic Marauder playstyle but adds hardpoints and an ECM. I can see the appeal of the 9M though.

#20106 BarHaid

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 05:25 PM

View PostShadowomega1, on 20 March 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

Barhalf they could in theory just drop both at the sametime in a bundle due to it being a light mech.

Sh*t; is that my new nickname?

#20107 Ovion

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:19 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 21 March 2019 - 05:05 PM, said:

Well, that's interesting. Not interesting enough to pre-order, but I look forward to the C-Bill release of the WHM-9D & MAD-9M

View PostFLG 01, on 21 March 2019 - 05:14 PM, said:

Same here. I would pay (real) money for the MAD-9M but not $50, and I am not yet sure about MW:5.

I think PGI would make more money if they sold those Mechs for $10 each.

Also, a MAD-9S would have been more tempting to me. It retains the classic Marauder playstyle but adds hardpoints and an ECM. I can see the appeal of the 9M though.
Page says exclusive, no c-bill release.

#20108 FLG 01

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:36 AM

View PostOvion, on 22 March 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

Page says exclusive, no c-bill release.

When the posts you quoted were written we had still hope that the "exclusive" part would be for the (S)-variant only and that they'd release standard, non-(S) variants for MC and/or C-Bills, similar to the reward Mechs.

However, with regards to non-(S) variants Russ recently said:
https://twitter.com/...892137112764416

#20109 FLG 01

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:46 AM

... and it has been changed already:
https://twitter.com/...132286111301632

So yes, we get them via C-Bills. Good.

Not the best MAD-9 but better than none.

#20110 CycKath

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 01:33 PM

Clanbuster King Crab! The List Grows Brothers!

#20111 Sereglach

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:22 PM

The fact that we're finally getting a KGC with missiles in both ST gives me hope we'll eventually get the KGC-010, which is second only to the 009 (which needs Plasma Rifles, MMLs, LACs, and Heavy Duty Gyro) in terms of which variants I like the most.

Also, I'm glad to see PGI reversed what would have been a very poor decision to go outside their normal release structure and not make a (S) or (L) chassis variant eventually acquirable as a standard c-bill version. Even though I have literally zero interest in any of those variants, I wouldn't want PGI to set a very ugly precedent to move forward with.

On the other hand, not even 1 medium or light in the lance, really?! . . . Well, I guess they've already spoiled the end-game boss lance and/or the mechs that the parent-killing pirates used when they set you on your revenge quest . . . and thereby the MW5 "Act/Chapter Bosses" that you'll face as you track the pirates down.

Edited by Sereglach, 22 March 2019 - 03:24 PM.


#20112 Odanan

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:30 PM

View PostSereglach, on 22 March 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

KGC-010

For one second, I thought it was this variant we were getting, instead of the "Clan Buster".

#20113 Virlutris

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:46 PM

View PostOdanan, on 22 March 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

For one second, I thought it was this variant we were getting, instead of the "Clan Buster".


First thing I checked was the loadout, to see which one it was.

I think "the Gauss one" and the "PPC/missile" one are both pretty cool. I can't usually remember which is which right off the top of my head.

#20114 Grus

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 03:49 PM

Still no Stone Rhino? #sadface

#20115 Odanan

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 03:17 AM

View PostGrus, on 22 March 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

Still no Stone Rhino? #sadface

Maybe next month.

Seriously, the Stone Rhino is inevitably coming before MW5's release.

#20116 Shadowomega1

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Posted 23 March 2019 - 08:43 PM

View PostOdanan, on 23 March 2019 - 03:17 AM, said:

Maybe next month.

Seriously, the Stone Rhino is inevitably coming before MW5's release.



It will be several months we still have a clan light and clan medium to see for the clans before another clan assault mech.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 23 March 2019 - 08:44 PM.


#20117 Odanan

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 02:25 AM

View PostShadowomega1, on 23 March 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

It will be several months we still have a clan light and clan medium to see for the clans before another clan assault mech.

So be it.
  • April: Fire Falcon (Clan light)
  • May: Wasp (IS light)
  • June: Hellhound (Clan medium)
  • July: Crusader (IS heavy)
  • August: Stone Rhino (Clan assault)


#20118 jjm1

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:02 AM

Maybe Locust IIC, its got some name recognition. Or maybe surprise Firemoth, because people actually want it to happen, and it's another MW2 mech.

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 05:07 AM

View PostOdanan, on 24 March 2019 - 02:25 AM, said:

So be it.
  • April: Fire Falcon (Clan light)
  • May: Wasp (IS light)
  • June: Hellhound (Clan medium)
  • July: Crusader (IS heavy)
  • August: Stone Rhino (Clan assault)


I've got a strong feeling that April's mech is going to be the Urbanmech IIC. Other strong candidates for the clans are the Griffin IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC and Phoenix Hawk IIC (two mediums and a assault) although I'd rather see the Firemoth even if it is downgraded to get the entire MW2 line up in the game.

For the IS, still possible strong candidates are the Argus, remaining unseens (Crusader, Longbow, Stinger/Wasp, etc.) and others before IS Omnimech consideration. There's also the other loose end mechs like the Turkina, War Dog, Thug, Lightray, Brigand (another pirate mech fitting with the Corsair), Grizzly, etc. although personally I would only throw down IRL money for the Toyama at this point.

#20120 Odanan

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Posted 24 March 2019 - 08:02 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 24 March 2019 - 05:07 AM, said:

I've got a strong feeling that April's mech is going to be the Urbanmech IIC.

Well, maybe you are right. As far as I can remember the Urbie was released in April 2015.





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