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[Fate 6]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

that's one fast PPC. My panther is a little jealous, lol.

Let's be honest here. The Panther is a way more effective and sexy mech.

[Bishop Steiner]

Fate 6, on 12 February 2015 - 08:57 PM, said:

Let's be honest here. The Panther is a way more effective and sexy mech.

Well yeah... but it still gets a little green at the thought of 160.

[Nori Silverrage]

Blaze32, on 12 February 2015 - 08:40 PM, said:

LCT-1E just take 11 armor of usless arm and 2 off the head and your golden

I suppose. Gonna have to try this.

[TripleEhBeef]

Mostly liking the Orions, but the V should have a bit more for missile cooldown, and the VA may need a missile heat reduction.

[Fate 6]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 09:01 PM, said:

Well yeah... but it still gets a little green at the thought of 160.

For poking the only thing that matters is acceleration and deceleration rates.

[Inflatable Fish]

look at all the Vindicator quirks!

(that was sarcasm. the VND is bound to keep blowing.)

Edited by Inflatable Fish, 12 February 2015 - 09:17 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Inflatable Fish, on 12 February 2015 - 09:17 PM, said:

look at all the Vindicator quirks!

(that was sarcasm. the VND is bound to keep blowing.)

especially the 1X.

But really it needs a hardpoint adjustment to save it. I more lazor or rocket and it could be decent.

I honestly am pretty OK with the other Quirks, though I would not mind if one was modded to pack ER PPC

[Kiiyor]

Greenjulius, on 12 February 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

The gods have answered my request! This will make it very hard to decide between the Arrow and BJ-1X.

[Kiiyor]

norus, on 12 February 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

So the first mech I bought was the cn9-AL when it had the LPL quirks, those got changed to large laser. Now the wolverine that I bought for the LPL quirks has had it changed to large laser also. Thanks PGI, thanks for screwing me over twice in a row when I just want a freaking LPL mech.

Get a WubJack! It's solid, but it's also a BlackJack, so it's probably pretty safe from the nerf bat.

IT HAD BETTER BE.

[Duke Nedo]

My rvn-2x! :-(

[Piney II]

My Arrow might see some more battle time now.

[Inflatable Fish]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 09:19 PM, said:

especially the 1X.

But really it needs a hardpoint adjustment to save it. I more lazor or rocket and it could be decent.

I honestly am pretty OK with the other Quirks, though I would not mind if one was modded to pack ER PPC

it's a lightweight mech with limited hardpoints no matter the variant. only good quirks can make up for it. and the quirks it already has don't change much. especially the missile quirks on all the energy-heavy variants. that's just wasted budget. meanwhile, the SIB, which is the only one with more than one missile hpoint, gets a whopping 10% cooldown and that's it. instead, it gets some LL range (irrelevant) and beam duration (weakest quirk type ever.)

[Rorvik]

Sean Lang, on 12 February 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

Got the thumbs up to preview some upcoming changes in 'Phase 2' that come out Feb. 17th, 2015!
...
QKD-5K
Specialty
Additional Armor (LA&RA) +10
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +7
Medium Laser Range +12.5%
Energy Weapon Range +12.5%
Medium Laser Heat Gen -12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -12.5%
Large Laser Duration +12.5%
Laser Weapon Duration +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%

...says my QKD-5K!

Sean Lang, on 12 February 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

GRF-1N
Specialty
PPC Velocity +20%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen -7.5%
Laser Duration -7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

Torso yaw speed +10%
...
<No changes to Vindicator quirks!!!>

[Bishop Steiner]

Inflatable Fish, on 12 February 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

it's a lightweight mech with limited hardpoints no matter the variant. only good quirks can make up for it. and the quirks it already has don't change much. especially the missile quirks on all the energy-heavy variants. that's just wasted budget. meanwhile, the SIB, which is the only one with more than one missile hpoint, gets a whopping 10% cooldown and that's it. instead, it gets some LL range (irrelevant) and beam duration (weakest quirk type ever.)

Personally, I find the 1R quirks to rock. My 225/ 2ppc and 3mlaser VND is darn good.
SIB, and 1AA both only use part of their quirks, but are very effective despite. And dual large lasers are effective.

So while I could use a few different quirks on them, the only one that is "bad" outright is the 1X.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

I hope to god the Vindicator has some armor buffs. Its also nice to see that PGI is still ******** on the Highlander. Still no valid reason to try and buy that thing, even though I really want to...

[norus]

Kiiyor, on 12 February 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

Get a WubJack! It's solid, but it's also a BlackJack, so it's probably pretty safe from the nerf bat.

IT HAD BETTER BE.

I first bought the wolverine because it was a 55 med that could fight the stormcrow with lpl's. Not exactly better in a direct head to head fight but it let me use the low burn time to fight them well with proper twisting and terrain use. Sadly the blackjack can in no way fight a stormcrow on anywhere near equal terms. I had enough trying to fight stormcrows in inferior mechs using the cn9-AL with large lasers.

[beerandasmoke]

Does PGI not understand that people bought and ground out the Wolverine 6K specifically for those LPL quirks? Why would I even bother with this mech with LL quirks? The Shadowhawk K does everything better with JJs in the same weight class. Not even going to mention the money invested to put modules on this thing for CW.

PGI should be quirking mechs according to what makes them viable and competitive ingame not according to the "stock" loadout. Most of the mechs that had decent stockloadouts were the Unseen which arent allowed ingame. The vast majority of the player base will not drive a subpar mech that gets you blown away no matter what people on twitter say.

I would seriously consider not dropping this quirkening and rethinking the whole "stock quirks" mentality. Give the 9S a heat reduction to 35% and adjust accordingly. Spend your time working on hitreg, hitboxes, and more content for players ingame instead.

[Adiuvo]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 February 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

For others of us, we play the game because of the Mechwarrior/Battletech IP. And would like mechs to be competitive against each other (which ain't happening overnight) at least RESEMBLING what the mechs are, in more than name.

Do you honestly think that's possible to do while maintaining viability? The differences between certain mech variants are too small for that, and if you want things to reflect stock there's even less that you can do. Certain stock loadouts will never be viable either without changes to weapon mechanics. This is most obvious when comparing stock loadouts of the various Battlemasters. How are you going to differentiate the 1D and the 1G while keeping their stock loadouts in mind?

[Ace Selin]

Sean Lang, on 12 February 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

It actually got more refined to be fair. The 9S shines from long range combat, so it got increased 'PPC Velocity' so time to target will be reduced. But the trade is less overall dps (reduced heat). So it will still shine at long range engagements, but if pressed it won't be able to handle quick engagements (such as brawling).

It already couldn't handle quick, close up engagements, now the Clans rule from long to close range again.

[Karl Marlow]

Deathlike, on 12 February 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

Someone still forgot to buff the Trebuchet's legs (because, they are the artifact of damage by JJs).

The Cicada-3C quirks are still useless, considering the hardpoint allocation. Spider-5V still useless.

Yea, just brilliant.

Fate 6, on 12 February 2015 - 03:27 PM, said:

Actually the 3C will be a monster with that ERPPC speed. Don't underestimate the power of an ERPPC light harasser.

the 3C was and probably still will be one of my favorite Stock mechs. Now if I want to trade up to a ERPPC I can keep teh PPC fire going while I'm in MG range.

As to other quirks. the TBT's I actually own didn't get the LRM bonuses...You know. The main variant and the 3050 upgrade variant. *sigh*

They removed my Wubverine. I got those Woplverines wiht the reinforcment package and the Wolverines were just sitting ther unused because I didn't like them Stock and I didn't see anything intersting to do with them. Then I saw Fantastic Tuesdays Video with the Quirkrs and thought it looked liek fun. and it was. Now the Wovlerines are just going to sit in the corner unused again. The only thing I've come out wiht this is a reaffirmation of my commitment to not but Weapon modules. They are too expensive and it appears Bait and Switch is going to be an ongoing theme for PGI going forward.

As to everything else. I don't even remember what the uirks were so I don't know how they've changed. So. Quirks! I guess.