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[Clownwarlord]

First off, to Russ Bullock my wife does not like you right now. As for me I am happy!!!

[Overkill C7]

clownwarlord, on 30 April 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

First off, to Russ Bullock my wife does not like you right now. As for me I am happy!!!

[YUyahoo]

Tina Benoit, on 30 April 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

Any level of package, excluding A La Carte!

Thanks for the quick response Tina!

[Ice Viper]

This sale is straight garbage. when you drop vs clans its wall-to-wall ECM that gets rotated thru the match. This is the 3rd IS package offered for sale (Phoenix, Resistance 1, Resistance 2) and only what the locust gets ECM? One out of 12 mechs is pretty much shenanigans here.

[Clownwarlord]

Crab attack in CW ... 3 crabs and a king crab.

[MauttyKoray]

Overkill C7, on 30 April 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

The Black Knight looks a lot better than the one in MW4.

The shape isn't bad now that Odanan gave me that comparison, however I think it may be the shaping of the cockpit area that throws it off and what seems to be the laser being more of an eye than a side attachment to it.

I find it hilarious that the early adopter reward for the IS pack lasts a month while they tried to make it...was it a week originally? For the Clan pack and didn't extend anywhere near a month. xD

I know it deviates from the TRO as well, but through both fluff and the MW4 design, maybe make the wolfhound head more Wolf shaped? I was listening to the Blood of Kerensky books and the description matches the MW4 design so much better.

Edited by MauttyKoray, 30 April 2015 - 05:02 PM.

[Kali Rinpoche]

Thank you for the update Tina. I bought crab package before the post. Will by last 2 in May so I don't end up in he dog house. Glad it applies to any level.

[Clownwarlord]

I think the concept art of the black knight and it's head energy point is what throws off the looks. Outside that part looking like a second thought in the drawing it looks really good.

The Mauler which I am an assault fanatic (YES IT IS ALL ABOUT ASSAULTS!!!) looks great but then again it looks like they took the concept art of the Awesome and made it look bulkier to fit the Mauler missile weapons in and work as a 90 ton mech.

The crab has to be in my opion a great looking mech off the concept art only issue again is that nose laser and head laser look like they are attached and not apart of the mech design.

Lastly the light mech Wolfhound, great looks to the eye but nothing to scream about because it looks like an energy CT panther instead of the panthers missile points.

Edited by clownwarlord, 30 April 2015 - 05:13 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

So.... No IS heavy with ECM until the War Dog?

I thought that was a priority for this pack.

[Dakkss]

Getting pretty fed up with the IS packs being $40 less than Clan packs. I could deal with it if it was $10 or $20 less, but come on. On top of that I gotta pay in Australian so $120 is really $150 (Clans) and $80 is really $105.

[Shabahh Kerensky]

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[stealthraccoon]

Something tells me that the free champion Black Knight may be where your ECM and JJ's come into play, or it will be available for $

[Ace Selin]

Man i was really hoping the Black Knight looked like this..



It doesnt :-(



Mauler looks great, im excited for this mech.
Crab looks cool and a unique 50 tonner, nice.

[Butane9000]

So... As awesome as these all look (freaking fantastic job Alex!) they are terribly homogeneous in regards to variants (except the Mauler). We're also beating 50 ton mechs to death here. Wolfhound was kind of a shoe in with the Panther. But we can start branching out to other weight areas. Such as:

Lights
Javelin
Mongoose
Hermes

Mediums
Hermes II
Assassin
Clint (40 ton mech, sorely under represented)
Sentinel (40 ton mech, sorely under represented)
Vulcan
Dervish

Heavies
Lancelot
Champion
Guillotine

Assault
Cyclops
Charger
Crockett
Hatamoto-Chi

[Sereglach]

Not to just single anyone out, but there are plenty of people with this same BS grip about "Why are the IS packages so much cheaper?"; and that's just what it is, a BS gripe that isn't looking at the context surrounding the mechs in the package.

Do you people realize that for customizations those Clan mechs come already good to go, with all the upgrades that would need to be applied to those IS mechs? If you actually figure in the c-bills people are going to need to invest to kit out and prep those mechs for combat it's going to cost a boatload. Just in the Endo-Steel, Double Heat Sinks, and removal of Ferro-Fibrous (nearly every Mauler comes with Ferro-Fibrous already on it) . . . you're talking tens of millions of c-bills that don't need to be spent on Clan mechs. Let alone if people actually need to spend c-bills on engines that they don't already own or can't swap out.

Now, go look at how much MC in cash it would take to actually acquire all of those c-bills, if one were to just purchase them with real money. It's 4K MC for a pure 6.5 million c-bills. To customize all the IS mechs you'd need at least two of those bundles . . . which is another $50 spent (minimum) right there if converted to real money. That $50 difference alone already closes the gaps between packages. That's being EXTREMELY conservative with the c-bill estimates. I just recently kitted out my Grasshoppers and that cost me nearly 20 million . . . just for them, because I didn't have all the engines I needed. There's a reason that the clan stuff is more expensive, and that is it.

I fully expect to see the first IS Omnimech sale cost just about as much as the Clan packages, even if that is quite a ways off, because those mechs start coming with all the upgrades pre-applied, as well. The same applies if we start to get into packages of IS mechs that are coming with just as high of base c-bill costs as clan mechs. However, because of technology differences, those mechs are quite a long ways off, as well.

These aren't those mechs, and you should frankly be happy that they're not taking the c-bill costs of the mechs and doing direct conversions into the MC values and then applying a blanket % discount for the packages . . . because then you'd be paying a hell of a lot more for the clan packages then you currently are, while the IS mechs wouldn't actually change all that much.

The fact that PGI cuts amazing deals for its players and then those players start to whine and moan about it is really starting to get disgusting. After all, I don't see a bunch of Phoenix owners (of which I got lucky and actually had the money to get an Overlord package) coming back and screaming that they want free skins and dozens of free colors and piles of cockpit items.

Packages change over time, and PGI is being more generous in their offerings. People should be complaining less and becoming more excited that PGI is starting to make such amazing and generous offers.

[stealthraccoon]

So I'll preorder the Resistance Wave 3: Javelin, Vulcan, <insert heavy of your choice here> and Charger.

[DarthPeanut]

Bought it.

Glad to see another non humanoid mech with the crab.

Black Knight looks nice and fast IS laser vomit should be possible.

Mauler... well it is a mauler but yea IS with ballistic in each side torso and still decent energy yes please.

Edited by DarthPeanut, 30 April 2015 - 06:30 PM.

[Wabbit Swaya]

Hornviech, on 30 April 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:

3. And why is the same amount of Mechs in this package cheaper then Wave III of the Clans?
You even get more colors!

It comes to my mind that PGI is losing the focus to the Game and go more and more to money making and also take sides with IS only.

I have a more and more negative impression of PGI.

Why cheaper... Single Heatsinks, Standard Armor, Standard Structure, Standard Engines... seeing a pattern yet?
Go back to your vat and soak in your saltiness.

[Arkaiko]

last week i said to myself "no more money on games", now i see the page, and PGI are selling Maulers...


PGI you are evil...

[Odanan]

I can't hold any longer. It is ABSURD! That Black Knight is ALL WRONG!

This is how it should be:

Spoiler

Black

Edited by Odanan, 01 May 2015 - 08:26 AM.