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#181 BattleBunny

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:39 PM

To open my wallet this game needs to:

- stop changing things and calling it new content.
- add a NEW map every 2-3 months.

Thats all.

#182 Zibmo

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:47 PM

View PostJep, on 03 October 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

A game that is actually true to lore, rewards that are not sh!t, and no more quirks.


You forgot, "and clan mechs that are true to lore and will roll any IS mech in seconds."

Not my idea of a good time, actually. Either as OP Clan would be, or as UP as IS. 10 v 12 would have no effect on the outcome. Why? Because in the lore (and I think Clans were the greatest stupid ever added to an awesome universe) it was dishonorable for a Clan warrior to engage an enemy more than 1v1. And until the guys with clan tags here become supermen from creches with such honorable leanings, it won't work in an online game. Perhaps if there was AI on the clan, but then you couldn't play them.

#183 GotShotALot

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:49 PM

I'm maybe not the target here because I never opened my wallet. I played a pretty thorough intro to the game, played some Trials, got 3 mediums which I really liked. Played some CW to get a few more mechbays, it was decent (although really the fights tended to be even more unbalanced than PUGs in Quickplay). Used the bays to get 3 Heavies, which I also really liked. Got 2 more bays, got some Assaults, which I like quite a bit.

And then... it kinda petered out. Except for doing the same fights on the same maps with very little variation over time, there was no need to get anything more. My few mechs (or trials) can let me experience all the weapons systems, and all styles of play (except Lights, which I'm not very good at it seems).

I'd say PGI got stuck on the 'next pack of mechs will keep us operating another month' hump and never got off it.

If there was some sort of PvE, or some sort of mission-play, or a player market, or a player-content-generation system, or a pilot skill system that didn't lead solely to outrageously priced modules; basically ANYthing to add some complexity, depth, strategy to the game beyond 'memorize the map and maximize your alpha', I'd be looking at buying.

I suspect that the thing that drew many of us to BattleTech was the rich BT 'universe'. For me, MWO has a pretty good 'Mech combat simulator' and that's it. And that's not enough to pull my discretionary $$ away from other games.

#184 Clownwarlord

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:50 PM

View PostBattleBunny, on 04 October 2016 - 12:39 PM, said:

To open my wallet this game needs to:

- stop changing things and calling it new content.
- add a NEW map every 2-3 months.

Thats all.

Yeah what the bunny says or the bunny gets it!

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#185 Clownwarlord

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:51 PM

View PostZibmo, on 04 October 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:


You forgot, "and clan mechs that are true to lore and will roll any IS mech in seconds."

Not my idea of a good time, actually. Either as OP Clan would be, or as UP as IS. 10 v 12 would have no effect on the outcome. Why? Because in the lore (and I think Clans were the greatest stupid ever added to an awesome universe) it was dishonorable for a Clan warrior to engage an enemy more than 1v1. And until the guys with clan tags here become supermen from creches with such honorable leanings, it won't work in an online game. Perhaps if there was AI on the clan, but then you couldn't play them.

But if we are going to lore then Clanners will be out numbered. So can you kill 2 or 3 IS to your 1 clan mech? So a battle will be 36 IS vs 12 clan or something like that.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 12:52 PM

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#187 jaxjace

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:17 PM

Add about 10 brand new good maps. Add at least 2 more game modes that dont suck ***. Just say no to power draw. jesus and even then, i just dont want to spend any more money on something that has consistently disappointed me.

#188 Clownwarlord

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:23 PM

View Postjaxjace, on 04 October 2016 - 01:17 PM, said:

Add about 10 brand new good maps. Add at least 2 more game modes that dont suck ***. Just say no to power draw. jesus and even then, i just dont want to spend any more money on something that has consistently disappointed me.

wow some one is demanding a lot

#189 Mole

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:39 PM

View PostClownwarlord, on 04 October 2016 - 01:23 PM, said:

wow some one is demanding a lot

Everyone has their price. No shame in it if your price is high. Me? PGI can buy me off with a new mechpack that features a 'mech that weighs 35 tons or less. I ain't asking for much.

#190 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:43 PM

View PostMole, on 04 October 2016 - 01:39 PM, said:

Everyone has their price. No shame in it if your price is high. Me? PGI can buy me off with a new mechpack that features a 'mech that weighs 35 tons or less. I ain't asking for much.

I truly wish I was able to find happiness so easily. (It's like when people make fun of cheap drunks, or lightweight potheads.... dude... I WISH I could drink swill and be happy, and get stoned on the cheap... imagine how much money I would save!!!!)

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 October 2016 - 01:43 PM.


#191 SmokingPuffin

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:45 PM

I estimate that I would continue buying things even if things continue as they currently are.

That said, I feel like game modes are a real weakness of this title. I would really like to see some game modes that are more tactical/military feeling. Things like:
-Attack enemy dropship while protecting your own
-Escort a VIP from A to B
-Destroy a target at A, B, and C

Some of these modes would involve playing the game first on offense, then on defense, and then counting up time or score if both teams had the same amount of success at the objective.

I also have a need for a way to play the game with casual friends without them getting stomped repeatedly in group queue.

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:52 PM

View PostSmokingPuffin, on 04 October 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

I estimate that I would continue buying things even if things continue as they currently are.

That said, I feel like game modes are a real weakness of this title. I would really like to see some game modes that are more tactical/military feeling. Things like:
-Attack enemy dropship while protecting your own
-Escort a VIP from A to B
-Destroy a target at A, B, and C

Some of these modes would involve playing the game first on offense, then on defense, and then counting up time or score if both teams had the same amount of success at the objective.

I also have a need for a way to play the game with casual friends without them getting stomped repeatedly in group queue.


According to Russ' twitter we should expect info on new game modes at Mechcon. The cynical side of me thinks "Mechcon" will soon replace "90 days" as the sarcastic reference of choice for the forums.

#193 Mole

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:54 PM

View PostLostdragon, on 04 October 2016 - 01:52 PM, said:

The cynical side of me thinks "Mechcon" will soon replace "90 days" as the sarcastic reference of choice for the forums.

I wish I didn't agree with this.

#194 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:58 PM

View PostLostdragon, on 04 October 2016 - 01:52 PM, said:

According to Russ' twitter we should expect info on new game modes at Mechcon. The cynical side of me thinks "Mechcon" will soon replace "90 days" as the sarcastic reference of choice for the forums.

so many missed opportunities on September 3 or so for "90 days" jokes....

#195 Deathlike

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 02:19 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 04 October 2016 - 06:22 AM, said:

you can always check back in a year or so.


Sure... to see the same thing with more mechs.

There are only two things assured in life MWO: Death and Taxes Mechpacks



View PostBishop Steiner, on 04 October 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

Yup. I love the yutzes who figure if you "dare criticize PGI" you must hate them, want them to fail. Some of the White Knights are just as mystifyingly dumb as the Black Knights.

I WANT to have fun playing MWO. I want desperately for Russ and crew to wake the hell up and give the Bittervets a REASON ot return. Sadly, the biggest reason I bought Alpha Lance was simply to grease the wheels for more Gundams for HBS's game.

But no, I don't wan't PGI and MWO to fail. I just want them to give us a legit reason to get excited, instead of trying to hype the next mech pack, and wonder why it doesn't even budge the needle.


To be fair, at this point, either seeing them succeed is the same thing as seeing them fail to me. Either they show that they are going to put effort and passion into the product (which is already questionable at best), or it'll die a slow zombie-mech laden death with more Lostech.

The definition of insanity is literally what we're facing here. What exactly should the result be for more mechpacks... happy days and bliss? I know our lovely paperdoll gets violated a lot, but is HTAL truly Lostech? I'm sure Russ will let you know @ Mechcon!

Edited by Deathlike, 04 October 2016 - 02:20 PM.


#196 Trev Firestorm

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:07 PM

I'm not really happy but I keep buying stuff every so often.... its unhealthy... I have a problem... help...

GH, Lack of Knockdowns/Collision/Melee, Lack of meaningful gameplay additions (IW where'd you go), inability to make balance changes that aren't sweeping ineffective trash (ED tests are the right direction but has it happened on live?), no new tech...
CW/FW is sadly a dead end but I can't see anything that would actually help that at this point.

Gameplay and gamemodes are the important things there.

#197 Revis Volek

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:08 PM

Special Edition Harambe Hero mech might suffice....

#198 Deathlike

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:10 PM

View PostRevis Volek, on 04 October 2016 - 03:08 PM, said:

Special Edition Harambe Hero mech might suffice....


#mechsforHarambe

#199 Dunereaper

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:25 PM

I will keep my response short. Innovative and interesting NEW game modes!

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 03:28 PM

More 'real' content, interesting FW which has some meaning, immersion and also is enjoyable as a pug





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