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[RestosIII]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 December 2016 - 10:23 PM, said:

Wasn't there a thread posted not too long ago created by a T4 player to prove that he was, in fact, a T4 player to one of our resident T1 forum warriors?

Pretty sure, yeah. Really wish the forum search function wasn't crap so I could find it.

[Lyoto Machida]

Yeonne Greene, on 08 December 2016 - 10:23 PM, said:

Wasn't there a thread posted not too long ago created by a T4 player to prove that he was, in fact, a T4 player to one of our resident T1 forum warriors?

RestosIII, on 08 December 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

Pretty sure, yeah. Really wish the forum search function wasn't crap so I could find it.

Only had to scroll like 10 pages lol:

https://mwomercs.com...450-mr-dayleet/

Btw...watched Shark Tale while at the dentist's office today.

[Vxheous]

Void Angel, on 08 December 2016 - 10:11 PM, said:

Citation.

Lyoto Machida, on 08 December 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Only had to scroll like 10 pages lol:

https://mwomercs.com...450-mr-dayleet/

Btw...watched Shark Tale while at the dentist's office today.

[MOBAjobg]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 December 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Only had to scroll like 10 pages lol:

https://mwomercs.com...450-mr-dayleet/

Btw...watched Shark Tale while at the dentist's office today.

https://mwomercs.com...t/page__st__220
Read post #234 and #235, ...Dee Eight was T4 as highlighted in post #230. T4 and T1 pilots were in the same match as displayed in the Screenshot while T5 and T2 pilots were in the same match from the link that you'd provided.

...and I'm definitely not a Forum Warrior.

Edited by MOBAjobg, 09 December 2016 - 12:54 AM.

[Lyoto Machida]

MOBAjobg, on 09 December 2016 - 12:47 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com...t/page__st__220
Read post #234 and #235, ...Dee Eight was T4 as highlighted in post #230. T4 and T1 pilots were in the same match as displayed in the Screenshot while T5 and T2 pilots were in the same match from the link that you'd provided.

...and I'm definitely not a Forum Warrior.

Dayleet is in tier 1.

[Dimento Graven]

Lyoto Machida, on 08 December 2016 - 11:57 PM, said:

Only had to scroll like 10 pages lol:

https://mwomercs.com...450-mr-dayleet/

Btw...watched Shark Tale while at the dentist's office today.

This explains so many of my recent matches...

[Void Angel]

Interesting - I stand corrected. But have we done our bug reporting and gotten feedback from support? This is not the way it's Supposed to Work, so at best it's an undocumented change. It's something I definitely would like fixed, though I hasten to add that tier level only vaguely correlates to skill.

Edited by Void Angel, 09 December 2016 - 12:20 PM.

[Aiden Skye]

I haven't noticed any difference between Tier 1 and 2. Whole bunch of this:

[Conjure]

Gas Guzzler, on 07 December 2016 - 04:17 PM, said:

People in my matches have been saying that they are Tier 4, not sure if trolling though..

Iv'e been seeing T1 and T2 in T3 matches..

[Dimento Graven]

W A R K H A N, on 09 December 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

I haven't noticed any difference between Tier 1 and 2. Whole bunch of this:

LOL!!! Yep, adding this one to my collection!

[Lyoto Machida]

Conjure, on 09 December 2016 - 12:47 PM, said:

Iv'e been seeing T1 and T2 in T3 matches..

Well, in PGI's defense...that's how it's supposed to work. T3 plays T1-T5...unless I'm wrong about that.

[Void Angel]

Yes, Tier 3 can play anyone - it's a total "spread" of two tiers, meaning that you can get into games two tiers lower than you if the game was seeded as a tier lower (however the game does that.) It's the documented instances of Tier 5 players being Matched With Tier 1 that should disturb us.

[MOBAjobg]

Lyoto Machida, on 09 December 2016 - 01:47 AM, said:

Dayleet is in tier 1.

Dayleet was Tier 2 at that particular time of posting as I'd seen it myself.

Edited by MOBAjobg, 09 December 2016 - 11:50 PM.

[Zergling]

I haven't seen much difference in games I've played with known T1 players, apart from the rare game with T1s that stand head and shoulders above the rest in skill.

Edited by Zergling, 09 December 2016 - 11:58 PM.

[Gaden Phoenix]

For me, my games are normalising itself again. That few days, when I made the thread, I really was getting pawned for giggles with huge amounts of players I never seen before.

Now back to normal. Must have been a peak period or something during the mechcon, cyber monday week(s). Or maybe Matchmaker was crapping me for fun.

Edited by Gaden Phoenix, 10 December 2016 - 02:41 AM.

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

I've been keeping a sharp eye on these threads. I think everyones pointing to the fact MM is mixing players up more aggressively or.....

The amount of players at a certain key times has dropped. Would be great if we can get an official response.

[Void Angel]

MOBAjobg, on 09 December 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

Dayleet was Tier 2 at that particular time of posting as I'd seen it myself.

Doesn't matter; the matchmaker should be matching players only in a maximum range of three Tiers (and that's after the two minute mark for the match build.) This means that a Tier 5 should be able to play with a maximum Tier of 3. As a Tier 2 player, I should never see a Tier 5 in the Solo queue, and a Tier 1 player shouldn't even see a Tier 4.

Edited by Void Angel, 10 December 2016 - 11:22 AM.

[Vxheous]

Void Angel, on 10 December 2016 - 11:22 AM, said:

Doesn't matter; the matchmaker should be matching players only in a maximum range of three Tiers (and that's after the two minute mark for the match build.) This means that a Tier 5 should be able to play with a maximum Tier of 3. As a Tier 2 player, I should never see a Tier 5 in the Solo queue, and a Tier 1 player shouldn't even see a Tier 4.

Yeah, I think it only happpens around super low pop times, like when you see 500ish people listed on steam client (plus probably another 500+ on standalone). I remember when PSR first came out that during low pop periods, I could sit in queue for 15min+ waiting for games. Now that a lot more people have flooded up to tier 1 its not such an issue anymore

[Void Angel]

But it shouldn't happen at all. Population or not, that isn't the way that the matchmaker is supposed to work - and that's something we really should know. If nothing else, it affects how we explain the game to newbies, as well as our own expectations of what general level of tactical experience we should see in our matches.

PS: If I recall correctly, and I'm not at all totally sure, there wasn't a spread when they first put in the matchmaker - the spread mechanic was introduced after the tier populations sort of evened out.

[Vxheous]

Void Angel, on 10 December 2016 - 12:28 PM, said:

But it shouldn't happen at all. Population or not, that isn't the way that the matchmaker is supposed to work - and that's something we really should know. If nothing else, it affects how we explain the game to newbies, as well as our own expectations of what general level of tactical experience we should see in our matches.

PS: If I recall correctly, and I'm not at all totally sure, there wasn't a spread when they first put in the matchmaker - the spread mechanic was introduced after the tier populations sort of evened out.

The spread mechanic was in place even they switched to PSR. It was the old elo system that didnt have a large spread, leading to high elo people waiting 45+ minutes to find a match. That is why there is a range and why it relaxes in low pop time, because high tier people will end up sitting in queue indefinitely. No one wants to play searchwarrior