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[Knownswift]

Nomad Tech, on 14 July 2022 - 07:57 PM, said:

Personally i just sway my lasers across both legs

No wonder you can't kill the light mech.

[PocketYoda]

martian, on 09 March 2022 - 08:31 PM, said:

Could you list light 'Mechs that you consider to be "crazy overpowered"?

Flea
Piranha
Myst lynx
Arctic Cheetah
Urbies
Kitfox

Other of note
Locust
Vipers
Shadowcat
Vapor eagle
Griffon
Arctic Wolves

All perform way above what regular mechs perform at. Piranhas are just so deadly due to their laser range and broken alphas.. Again not a cheat just power creep.

Knownswift, on 16 July 2022 - 06:36 PM, said:

No wonder you can't kill the light mech.

Yeah you try hitting them in the core with their tiny profiles at their speeds with 250ping.

Edited by Nomad Tech, 16 July 2022 - 10:23 PM.

[martian]

Nomad Tech, on 16 July 2022 - 10:20 PM, said:

Flea
Piranha
Myst lynx
Arctic Cheetah
Urbies
Kitfox

I am kinda surprised that you left out the Firestarter.

The Firestarter is a pretty solid light 'Mech. I remember that it was one of the most used light 'Mechs during the last MWO Championship.

Nomad Tech, on 16 July 2022 - 10:20 PM, said:

Other of note
Locust
Vipers
Shadowcat
Vapor eagle
Griffon
Arctic Wolves

Locust is just annoying.
Viper is fragile (especially its arms).
Shadow Cat ... well, 90% of Shadow Cats that I have seen just boat a pair of Clan ER PPCs.
Vapor Eagle with its 55 tons is pretty far from light 'Mechs.
Griffin does not differ much from other IS 55-tonners such as the Wolverine or the Shadow Hawk.
Arctic Wolf with its broad silhouette is good, but not especially durable.

Nomad Tech, on 16 July 2022 - 10:20 PM, said:

All perform way above what regular mechs perform at. Piranhas are just so deadly due to their laser range and broken alphas.. Again not a cheat just power creep.

You forgot to say that the Piranha's laser range is very short - Clan ER Micro lasers have the optimal range 150 m and Clan ER Small lasers reach out to 200 m. Their pulse variants have even shorter range.

Also, the Piranha is very fragile. One good alpha strike from a heavier 'Mech is often enough to cripple the Piranha.

Also, the Piranha can not be equipped with the Clan ECM suite and thus it is visible on your RADAR.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Nomad Tech, on 16 July 2022 - 10:20 PM, said:

Flea
Piranha
Myst lynx
Arctic Cheetah
Urbies
Kitfox

Other of note
Locust
Vipers
Shadowcat
Vapor eagle
Griffon
Arctic Wolves

All perform way above what regular mechs perform at. Piranhas are just so deadly due to their laser range and broken alphas.. Again not a cheat just power creep.

Yeah you try hitting them in the core with their tiny profiles at their speeds with 250ping.

again, as stated several times in every 'lightmech op' thread there is:
run them yourself.
for a month.
then we ALL can see just how broken they are, measured against all your months before running these OP mechs.
jarls is open, nobody can manipulate into that, so:
pls, enlighten us.

[Knownswift]

Nomad Tech, on 16 July 2022 - 10:20 PM, said:

Yeah you try hitting them in the core with their tiny profiles at their speeds with 250ping.

Try aiming straight at one of the parts that isn't moving, and then resist the urge to firehose all over the place.

[NightNova]

That is no uncommon if you're cored faster than you anticipated.

The only situation I assume someone is a cheater, is that he/she gaves a clean headshot without even touching the rest of my armor.

I even witnessed some crazy fxxking **** Jagermech wielding dual AC/20s strike double head shots to my teammates and myself with simply two double alphas in Emerald Valley, I'll always report these suckers as shameless cheaters.

[Sjorpha]

Basically cheats can only affect things that are handled clientside, so aimbots and wall hacks and some other things are possible but not things like extra damage, shooting through obstacles or invulnerability etc as those things are all server side and can't be manipulated from your computer. If those kind of things seem to happen they are either bugs/glitches or you misunderstood the situation.

NightNova, on 17 July 2022 - 11:14 PM, said:

That is no uncommon if you're cored faster than you anticipated.

The only situation I assume someone is a cheater, is that he/she gaves a clean headshot without even touching the rest of my armor.

I even witnessed some crazy fxxking **** Jagermech wielding dual AC/20s strike double head shots to my teammates and myself with simply two double alphas in Emerald Valley, I'll always report these suckers as shameless cheaters.

The head is a hitbox just like other parts of the mech, it's small but not so small that you can't learn to hit it. You should definitely not assume people are cheating just because they hit some clean headshots.

[UMPA Viper]

There are multiple hacks out there for this game. Some free. I have been noticing more and more over the last couple weeks the use of wallhacks. Not sure if its due to the age of this game , but it doesnt seem like PGI cares anymore and isnt doing anything about it.

[pattonesque]

UMPA Viper, on 04 October 2022 - 01:24 PM, said:

There are multiple hacks out there for this game. Some free. I have been noticing more and more over the last couple weeks the use of wallhacks. Not sure if its due to the age of this game , but it doesnt seem like PGI cares anymore and isnt doing anything about it.

any video to support this or

[Nightbird]

pattonesque, on 04 October 2022 - 01:26 PM, said:

any video to support this or

Against TOS to submit videos of hacks. If you test a hack to create evidence, all your accounts with be banned without exception.

[evil kerensky]

pattonesque, on 04 October 2022 - 01:26 PM, said:

any video to support this or

look up teir up on youtube.

any hack that works on cryengine likely works in mwo, since mwo is on cryengine, and mwo doesnt have an anti cheat software. thats why they used to make the finalists for mwo championships play at mechcon on pgi computers. there was even a bit of a scandal when they first did it, i think quiet a few people who were wrecking face in the championship did terribly when forced to play on pgis garunteed no hacks computers.

[pattonesque]

Nightbird, on 04 October 2022 - 01:33 PM, said:

Against TOS to submit videos of hacks. If you test a hack to create evidence, all your accounts with be banned without exception.

I'm talking about video of behavior in-game that the player in question has observed that would cause him to draw this conclusion.

evil kerensky, on 04 October 2022 - 01:35 PM, said:

look up teir up on youtube.

link me a specific video

[Nightbird]

pattonesque, on 04 October 2022 - 01:59 PM, said:

I'm talking about video of behavior in-game that the player in question has observed that would cause him to draw this conclusion.

link me a specific video

This game doesn't offer the tools to help that. For example, seeing a replay while enabling see-though to catch wall hacks or aim botting.

[evil kerensky]

pattonesque, on 04 October 2022 - 01:59 PM, said:

link me a specific video

i will not be doing that only because it is a banworthy offense. however i would point you at anyone who was doing comp 2-4 years ago. they should remember the series of events. it was rather funny. you can probably find it if you go on outreachhpg reddit and sort by controversial. it should be somewhere on there.

fun fact, that guys cheating and antics are the reason chat is disabled for new accounts until they play play a certain amount of games. lol, those were crazy times, back when this game wasnt quiet as dead as it is now.

[Escef]

UMPA Viper, on 04 October 2022 - 01:24 PM, said:

There are multiple hacks out there for this game. Some free. I have been noticing more and more over the last couple weeks the use of wallhacks. Not sure if its due to the age of this game , but it doesnt seem like PGI cares anymore and isnt doing anything about it.

Or, and hear me out, with the changes to the skill system a few months back, large numbers of players are investing in seismic sensors.

[PocketYoda]

Meep Meep, on 09 March 2022 - 01:24 PM, said:

The only oddness I have noticed is that lately there seems to be an increase of 'too accurate' blue lazor snipers. I'm typically pretty good at spreading damage from lasers by always being on the move and twisting as I engage but recently over the last month or so I keep getting ct cored with the rest of the mech staying almost fresh and this is mostly on fleas and locust with their tiny hitbox. Aimbots are not impossible since the game engine allows for it if you know how to do the hax and the recent cauldron buff of lasers might have tempted a few players to join the dark side. It's not a huge issue as it seems to happen more late night US time and only a few times a play session.

Yes i have noticed that myself.. Very very accurate laser builds. And people knowing where you are and what direction you are facing at all times..

Escef, on 04 October 2022 - 02:54 PM, said:

Or, and hear me out, with the changes to the skill system a few months back, large numbers of players are investing in seismic sensors.

Seismic only works up close these people can see you miles away instantly with no UAVs.. or anything around. Its pretty blatant at this point.. It used to be one cheater in a thousand but it seems to be a lot more prevalent these days.. Its very subtle cheats though hard to prove in videos..

Another thing i noticed is i'm getting odd freezing when some enemies get into range or start attacking like a short lock up when they are close.. Its not just me thats noticing it.. Its like the server is taking a hit for a second, but its never happened till lately.

Edited by PocketYoda, 04 October 2022 - 04:36 PM.

[Escef]

PocketYoda, on 04 October 2022 - 04:23 PM, said:

Yes i have noticed that myself.. Very very accurate laser builds. And people knowing where you are and what direction you are facing at all times..

Seismic only works up close these people can see you miles away instantly with no UAVs.. or anything around. Its pretty blatant at this point.. It used to be one cheater in a thousand but it seems to be a lot more prevalent these days.. Its very subtle cheats though hard to prove in videos..

Another thing i noticed is i'm getting odd freezing when some enemies get into range or start attacking like a short lock up when they are close.. Its not just me thats noticing it.. Its like the server is taking a hit for a second, but its never happened till lately.

/sigh...

OBS broadcasting/streaming software is free and can also record video. If you think it's so common it shouldn't take you long to document evidence of your claims.

[ScrapIron Prime]

PocketYoda, on 04 October 2022 - 04:23 PM, said:

Yes i have noticed that myself.. Very very accurate laser builds. And people knowing where you are and what direction you are facing at all times..

Seismic only works up close these people can see you miles away instantly with no UAVs.. or anything around. Its pretty blatant at this point.. It used to be one cheater in a thousand but it seems to be a lot more prevalent these days.. Its very subtle cheats though hard to prove in videos..

Another thing i noticed is i'm getting odd freezing when some enemies get into range or start attacking like a short lock up when they are close.. Its not just me thats noticing it.. Its like the server is taking a hit for a second, but its never happened till lately.

Occam's Razor, folks. All this can be done with battlefield awareness, a decent monitor, and some skill. (Unless you're looking at ERLL headshot deaths from across the map.)

Except the server freeze, that's just lag when you're trying to render stuff. I betcha its the new maps, the assets are compiled differently.

[Meep Meep]

PocketYoda, on 04 October 2022 - 04:23 PM, said:

And people knowing where you are and what direction you are facing at all times.

That would be the esp hax. Those are easy to spot because they always know where you are and are preaimed at you no matter where you expose. I see that more than anything especially late night US. I've spectated a few too and watch how they are seemingly tracking nothing but a mech will pop out of cover where they are looking. I report them but alas they are still active.

ScrapIron Prime, on 04 October 2022 - 05:50 PM, said:

Occam's Razor, folks. All this can be done with battlefield awareness, a decent monitor, and some skill. (Unless you're looking at ERLL headshot deaths from across the map.)

Except the server freeze, that's just lag when you're trying to render stuff. I betcha its the new maps, the assets are compiled differently.

The 'aimbot' stuff I can put down to just unnaturally good aim and it can mostly be countered by abusing the terrain. Some people do possess exceptional hand eye coordination. But the esp stuff is blatant and highly noticeable.

Edited by Meep Meep, 04 October 2022 - 09:22 PM.

[Dashen]

I heard someone say Firecontrol, it's a legit cheat, still people use it, why would they not use anything else? I don't know if the guy cheated or not, but why bother?