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[OdyM]

The only time I want to see 3rd person view is during sim time with friends for making videos and taking some cool screen shots. Dont let it show up in real combat.

[Lokust Davion]

Whats the point of buying cockpit bobbleheads and other cockpit addons if you and other people are not gonna be able to view it. 3rd person will kill their own merchandise....

[StandingCow]

Their statement raises more questions from me than answers... I wonder what they mean by a lot of emails wanting 3rd person? It seems to me like they already have their minds made up and there is no point to us even giving our feedback? How are they thinking of implementing this?

[Syberian]

I say NO! If I wanted a 3rd Person view I would play Mech Commander or something. This is game suppose to make me feel like I am a pilot of my mech. In real life I can't just jump to 3rd person view behind my M109A6 Paladin. Granted this is a game, but still as I said before it's suppose to make me feel like I am the pilot.


~-=Syberian=-~
2/116th FA.

Edited by Syberian, 16 November 2012 - 05:14 PM.

[ice trey]

Personally, while I loved using 3rd person view in Mechwarrior 2, that was mostly to finish my missions cinematically and admire my own ride. It wasn't until I started playing Mechwarrior 4 online that I noticed players were using it to gain an advantage over 1st person players by peering over hills and past walls.

So if 3rd person comes out, I won't use it myself out of preference, but I'll only be against it if it gives a tactical advantage over 1st person players.

[Naten]

I'd like a self view of the front of my mech, looking down slightly. View should probably be fixed that would swing with torso twist.

This view would enhance my feeling of being in the mech. Allow cool screenshots. Allow direct viewing of damage taken. Be helpful in seeing if your hungup on some part of the map. And also provide view to the rear.

[zer0imh]

Lokust Davion, on 16 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

Whats the point of buying cockpit bobbleheads and other cockpit addons if you and other people are not gonna be able to view it. 3rd person will kill their own merchandise....

an external bobblehead will be installed on top of the mechs head.

[Dagnome]

Are we still talking about this? It is better than whining about LRM's and Gauss's I suppose.

[zer0imh]

Naten, on 16 November 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

I'd like a self view of the front of my mech, looking down slightly. View should probably be fixed that would swing with torso twist.

This view would enhance my feeling of being in the mech. Allow cool screenshots. Allow direct viewing of damage taken. Be helpful in seeing if your hungup on some part of the map. And also provide view to the rear.

this can be solved using the MFD inside the cockpit, a camera facing downward feeding video inside the cockpit.

[Lokust Davion]

zer0imh, on 16 November 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

an external bobblehead will be installed on top of the mechs head.

Hmm... mech hats is an interesting idea..

[zer0imh]

Lokust Davion, on 16 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

Hmm... mech hats is an interesting idea..

it will cost 10,000,000 Cbills

[Ghost_19Hz]

zer0imh, on 16 November 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

it will cost 10,000,000 Cbills

[flashdrive]

We were all new players once what did we do? LEARN TO PLAY!!

3RD person view is not needed granted this was featured in the current games predecessor Mw4 mercs however this game has

more emphasis on PvP. Every game has some sort of learning curve some steeper than others, however simply just making the

game grandma friendly is of no credit to the user or the developer. PGI look at the poll make the right decision, make the smart decision.

[flashdrive]

Dagnome, on 16 November 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Are we still talking about this? It is better than whining about LRM's and Gauss's I suppose.

closed mouth doesn't get fed if no one whines then the majority as a whole gets screwed. clearly this is one of many issues that need to be considered that will have a huge impact on the game.

[Kanaric]

The last time there was such a furor over a game feature was on the Master of Orion 3 forums. They didn't listen to the players as well and we all know the end result of that ****.

[Dagnome]

flashdrive, on 16 November 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

closed mouth doesn't get fed if no one whines then the majority as a whole gets screwed. clearly this is one of many issues that need to be considered that will have a huge impact on the game.

Garth Erlam, on 16 November 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Hi Mechwarriors,

So Russ let slip in an interview with No Guts No Galaxy we are looking into a 3rd person view option. It seems a lot of people are unhappy with this, so we’d like to explain our thought process here.

For reference, we also strongly recommend listening to Russ’s comments, as he provides a clear case for our approach.

Over the course of development, we’ve had a huge number of requests for a 3^rd person camera option. At this early stage, it’s something we feel that warrants further analysis, understanding and exploration.

MechWarrior Online is, and will always be, a game focused on 1st person combat in Mechs. That experience is sacrosanct to the classic Mechwarrior experience.

If we find that there is a relevant role for an optional 3^rd person camera mode, then then would simply be an additional option that, if you don’t want it, won’t affect you. Bryan will be writing a detailed Command Chair post on this (he's currently at 40,000 feet, and not by Jump Jetting) with more details. For now, be assured we're acutely aware of past problems with 3rd person view, and will make sure those same issues are thoroughly addressed. We wouldn’t settle for anything less.

Cheers,
The MechWarrior Online Team

Its quite obvious they got the feedback they needed so we are basically yapping about something that is addressed and we should focus on other issues.

Edited by Dagnome, 16 November 2012 - 05:52 PM.

[Insidious Johnson]

Garth... um, really? <shaking head, walking away>

[DraigUK]

The best announcement Russ can make is:-

"Hey, we looked into it, and we realized it was a dumb idea, sorry for going back on our promise and causing all this fuss. We are now back focused on what we should have been doing, and that is putting in new mechs, maps and game modes, while balancing weapons and fixing bugs, in particular the netcode issue. Happy gaming everybody!"

C'mon Garth, Russ and Paul....get back on track where you belong. Look after us and stay true to the franchise first and foremost and the rest will look after itself.

[Dagnome]

DraigUK, on 16 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

The best announcement Russ can make is:-

"Hey, we looked into it, and we realized it was a dumb idea, sorry for going back on our promise and causing all this fuss. We are now back focused on what we should have been doing, and that is putting in new mechs, maps and game modes, while balancing weapons and fixing bugs, in particular the netcode issue. Happy gaming everybody!"

C'mon Garth, Russ and Paul....get back on track where you belong. Look after us and stay true to the franchise first and foremost and the rest will look after itself.

I have to disagree with the phrase "The rest will look after itself".
This is a Relaunch of the Mechwarrior franchise and with it they need to attempt to suck in new players, a new fanbase to keep the franchise rolling. This does include catering to new players to the franchise by entertaining, if not implementing, some of their suggestions and ideas.

If the Mechwarrior franchise had "Looked after itself" then we wouldn't have had to "relaunch" the franchise on "gaming systems".

Edited by Dagnome, 16 November 2012 - 06:09 PM.

[StandingCow]

I'd rather see:

"Hey, we looked into it, it was a terrible idea. We all punched ourselves in the nuts for even considering it.

Love,
PGI"