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#261 LauLiao

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 03:01 PM

Yeah definitely waiting for C-bill versions on these boys. Just can't justify spending THAT much. Not when I spent $120 on 18 Mechs with the Overlord + Sabre and they're now charging 100% more and you're only getting 33% more mechs. Sure there's the "Unique Modules" but these will either be pretty useless in order to keep things balanced, or else they will be worth the money which would then make the game P2W. And if the "Unique" modules are just improved versions of free modules (i.e. Air strike vs. priority air strike or whatever) than it really isn't worth it.

Top tier package really should have been more like $160 to keep it in line with Phoenix pricing, especially with the Devs continually telling us that Clan mechs won't offer significant advantage over non-clan mechs.

Edited by LauLiao, 14 December 2013 - 03:03 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 03:35 PM

View PostFREDtheROLF, on 13 December 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

NO CASH BEFORE CONTENT!


NO CASH BEFORE CONTENT!

#263 Win Ott

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:04 PM

View Postaniviron, on 14 December 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

Did the marketing department forget the meaning of the "micro" part of microtransaction? $30, the cheapest package (which gives you one mech, and you don't get to choose which one) is enough to buy a AAA game new on Steam, not even during a sale. $240 is more than most people I know spend on games in a year.


^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^

#264 Gods Wrath

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:34 PM

Lets face it, this is a company that is here to make money. If everybody played for free there would be no game to play. I agree that they should allow you to pick mechs. The more you pick the bigger the discount and more "free" stuff you get with it as you reach different tiers. Also, from a business standpoint I think they would have made more money. The people that can afford it will most likely buy all the mechs but the ones that cant they could have gotten say $50 out of them for 1 mech, now they get nothing from them.

My BIG problem is they are just showing us a pic and want us to hand over $. They should have waited until they had more info before asking people fork over their hard earned money. If I tried to do that with my job my company would go out of business!

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:43 PM

No way in heck am I shelling out that kind of money for those top packages, which are obviously the ones most people want. I have bought the legendary founders, the overlord, and even the legendary on MW tactics, but in this case I think they have lost their friggin minds! What are they smoking over there??? Price needs to be reduced to non ridiculous levels. I work for a living dammit, I'm not Donald Trump. I honestly don't know what piranha/IGP are thinking. For a game thats still as buggy and unbalanced as it is, this is kind of a poke in the eye to those of us who have already invested so much in this game, but that's just my personal opinion on the matter. Fools and their money are easily parted, apparently piranha/IGP have seized upon this idea and are now trying to squeeze the community for all we're worth. Again, just the way it seems to me. Have fun those of you who are committed enough to the clans to buy these top packages at the current price points, and my condolences on the impending buyer's remorse for those of you have shelled out for the gold mechs. Salute o7

Edited by SUSTINET, 14 December 2013 - 06:58 PM.


#266 Masterzinja

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:07 PM

They still haven't delivered the readyroom "in game badges" that were sold as part of the Phoenix package and already they're on to another package, bragging about how they have lived up to all their promises and pretending like it's nothing.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:10 PM

Merry Xmas PGI. I did not realize how troubled financially you guys really are. I bought the last package anticipating community warfare coming out soon. Instead I see a clan package out for June ,when we were told you were winding back the clock, so you could get CW up and running , then the clans will come. You have received over $5 Million from fans willing to back you in this endeavor, and still that's not enough . I will Not be buying any more Mechs until the release of CW. I hope all you guys drive BMW's or something better , as I don't understand how much more money you guys need. MWLL ran on a lot smaller budget and they had more maps than you and right now all I see is you copying them map for map. I love this game , and have supported it, but enough is enough. Stop selling us trinkets and give us the game you promised ,with the money you already have got from us. Merry Xmas again and I want you to know that I hope you send me a BMW or better, or even better ,a game that you promised ?.

#268 DjPush

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:58 PM

6 months is a long time. I learned my lesson with the phoenix package. I bought 12 mechs without knowing anything about them. Expecting them to be awesome. I had no idea what kind of load outs or hard points they had. When they arrived I really only liked about a third of them. Im holding my decision until more information presents itself and I am also waiting to see where the game goes in the coming months. There is a voice inside me that is calling me an ***** for even considering spending 240 bucks on a video game.

#269 Corwin Vickers

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:08 PM

$4240

Russ sent me a personal message that because I bought all 8 gold mechs they would make me the Khan of the in game Clan Wolf

#270 Dan Nashe

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:19 PM

C-Bill Timberwolf:
Sometime early 2015?

Will we have CW by then?

#271 DjPush

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:34 PM

I would have coughed up 140 for top tier without complaint. The way things are going I doubt that I will be playing this game in early 2015 when C-bill versions of these mechs are available.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:52 PM

I am glad I actually looked at the pricing scheme before responding in a knee-jerk fashion. $200 is not really that much considering that the next six months of development cycles will be partially or mostly invested in polishing the package. The $500 gold mechs were really puzzling to me, however. I really wanted to believe that they meant $500 dollars for that gold variant plus the masakari package. But I saw no language to support that assumption in the product details. I could never justify paying $500 in one shot for anything in a video game. Kudos to you if you do - I'll be torn between protecting your hero mech or targeting you for your flashy lifestyle.

#273 Will9761

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:58 PM

View PostCorwin Vickers, on 14 December 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Because I bought all 8 gold mechs they would make me the Khan of the in game Clan Wolf

I hope you're a better Khan than Vlad Ward.

Edited by Will9761, 14 December 2013 - 08:59 PM.


#274 Ullr

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 08:59 PM

People need to remember that the "balancing" for the clan mechs also means that they aren't omni, so no free fhardponts. also some other little this thats, that make them seem weird. I would never do this. I would get the 120 package if it was worth playing the game.

#275 DjPush

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostM4NTiC0R3X, on 14 December 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

This makes me wonder if this could be PGI's final hurrah before they halt production.

Or,

If business is so good they actually think people will buy that.

Iono, which do you think is more likely



Amen.


I think people are actually buying it. Just not as many as Founders or Phoenix.. yet. I think PGI is gonna get their money and no matter how much complaining we do the prices won't change

Edited by DjPush, 14 December 2013 - 09:20 PM.


#276 GalaxyBluestar

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 14 December 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

and what remains cannot be customized at all. These include:
  • The engine type and rating
  • The number and placement of a minimum number of heatsinks
  • The amount and distribution of armor
  • The armor type and the location of any critical slots occupied by Ferro-Fibrous
  • The internal structure type and the location of any critical slots occupied by Endo Steel
  • Enhancements such as MASC
  • The occasional weapon or other piece of equipment (e.g. jump jets) that is included as part of the base configuration
thank you for totally screwing over clanners, not only are you nerfing their weapons, and nerfing omni modules by limiting them to varients available but they'll hardly be customisable AT ALL you know customisation. THE ENITRE SELL POINT OF THIS GIMCIKY TRAVISTY OF A BATTLETECH GAME!



you just burned you cash grab deal to ashes... have a nice day.

GG cloths


#277 Fleeb the Mad

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

When I was first shown the Clan package offerings I dismissed it out of hand, thinking it had to be some sort of joke.

I'm still staring at the webpage wide-eyed, still not sure if I can believe what I'm seeing.

This founders tag shows that I put a nice chunk of money towards a nascent game I wanted to succeed. More than I knew I was going to actually see value for. Game got off the ground and into some sort of playable format that was reasonable. I never got value for my money, as expected really. The 'hero' mechs are better than the Founders mechs, have a higher c-bill bonus. I'm a little bitter about that, but I have to remember that I knew it wasn't going to be worth it.

But this...is outrageous. Hundreds of dollars for packages that are 6 months out, with zero details on how they're going to be implemented and balanced. There's no good reason to bundle so many things together into such high-dollar packages apart from what seems to be naked profiteering banking on the impulsiveness and impatience of a few people.

Here's some advice people. Don't buy into it. Don't dump a pile of money onto a package to get the one or two things you actually want. This is the very first look at it, and they're banking on overly eager folks throwing money at something they don't even understand. Do you know how your Clantech is even going to be balanced? How much it'll take to just buy it with MC or C-Bills after release? Patience will save you a lot of money. Spending it now is also not sending the right message to the developers either.

There is no Community Warfare. This is the game that should have been Open Beta. Buying hero mechs and now this is just paying them not to develop the features that were promised so long ago already.

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 09:52 PM

View Postemployee24601, on 13 December 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Your analogy is off the mark. A Ferrari I'm quite sure, is somewhat better than a Corolla for the significant extra outlay. In this instance, it's most certainly not. And I'll comment on what I want thanks buddy ;)


Ferrari's DEFINITELY catch fire WAY more than toyota corollas. so the argument is valid

#279 Commander Kobold

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:45 PM

How sad is it that I'm tempted to buy a golden Timber Wolf load it with narcs flamers and MGs and just go around trolling...

#280 John Norad

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:55 PM

View PostFleeb the Mad, on 14 December 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

When I was first shown the Clan package offerings I dismissed it out of hand, thinking it had to be some sort of joke.

I'm still staring at the webpage wide-eyed, still not sure if I can believe what I'm seeing.

This founders tag shows that I put a nice chunk of money towards a nascent game I wanted to succeed. More than I knew I was going to actually see value for. Game got off the ground and into some sort of playable format that was reasonable. I never got value for my money, as expected really. The 'hero' mechs are better than the Founders mechs, have a higher c-bill bonus. I'm a little bitter about that, but I have to remember that I knew it wasn't going to be worth it.

But this...is outrageous. Hundreds of dollars for packages that are 6 months out, with zero details on how they're going to be implemented and balanced. There's no good reason to bundle so many things together into such high-dollar packages apart from what seems to be naked profiteering banking on the impulsiveness and impatience of a few people.

Here's some advice people. Don't buy into it. Don't dump a pile of money onto a package to get the one or two things you actually want. This is the very first look at it, and they're banking on overly eager folks throwing money at something they don't even understand. Do you know how your Clantech is even going to be balanced? How much it'll take to just buy it with MC or C-Bills after release? Patience will save you a lot of money. Spending it now is also not sending the right message to the developers either.

There is no Community Warfare. This is the game that should have been Open Beta. Buying hero mechs and now this is just paying them not to develop the features that were promised so long ago already.

Pretty much this.

The clan mechs look great. Praise where praise is due.
But the pricing? The whole payment model of MW:O?
One word:
Ridiculous.
They could make tons of money from real micro transactions. Like getting the original color pattern from one of the house units. Like real unique variants. Like mechs 5$ a pop instead of fullprice game's worth.
It seems like they're counting on a small number of crazy players to actually pay for all the stuff. Nothing else could explain these prices. It's definitely not aimed at quantity.





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