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#341 orcrist86

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:31 PM

One of the banned guys is coming clean on outreach hpg and will answer questions. He says those who cheated knew the got caught almost a week ago.

#342 Purger of Man

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:32 PM

I think the list of banned people should be auto-inserted into random mechs in the training grounds
instead of "no-pilot", it would be fun to kill dirty cheaters whilst we test our mechs/weapons :lol:

Poetic Justice, from the "Best" to "Targets" :P, also a constant reminder to everyone ;)

Ps: Gonna make a thread about it, thanks op :)

Edited by Purger of Man, 27 May 2015 - 04:40 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:32 PM

OP good news indeed. I only hope PGI keeps an active approach and lookout for people using hacks, cheats, whatever. No doubt they will have to be consistently purged from the game as time progresses.

Good news indeed for those who intend to keep with this game and play clean matches.

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:35 PM

View PostJohnny Z, on 27 May 2015 - 11:48 AM, said:

Like I said before if players knew how easy it was to catch cheats they wouldnt even consider doing it. If a mistake, which isnt impossible, is made, all these game companies give avenues to adress the situation. Its not in their interest to screw players.

Mechwarrior is providing the playing field and the referee.

View PostJohnny Z, on 27 May 2015 - 11:59 AM, said:

They have peeps hired to take care of this end it isnt him making the call. At most he took advice from the pros. Even making the list public would have been on the call the pros made on how best to deal with the situation.


No one had a problem with anything you were posting up until this point.

View PostJohnny Z, on 27 May 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

It results in high scores from what I see on the list and what I seen in game. Which is the trap I guess. Sorry to anyone that got banned that really sucks. I feel sorry for them.


Quite a few players were annoyed by your apparent sympathy for cheaters at this point as noted by your lack of "likes" and the replies they made.

View PostJohnny Z, on 27 May 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

There are not any bads just inexperienced players. With Mechwarrior it takes a long time to master everything and I am still working on a few things also since closed beta. I had to rebind a few keys.
Biggest tip for good aiming playing legit is turn down mouse sensativity in game to half and go from there.

I was hoping everyone that out scored me in the Orion chassis challenge would get banned. HAHA just kidding. :lol:


Too many players mistook this as being a continuation of your comment showing apparent sympathy for cheaters.

View PostNightmare1, on 27 May 2015 - 12:51 PM, said:

I never insinuated they were bad players; you did. :)

Go re-read your post!


Because most (or perhaps just a lot of) people only remembered your "I feel sorry for them post" they stopped paying attention to your argument at this point and and started getting annoyed at you.

View PostJohnny Z, on 27 May 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

If you think my replies excuse the use of hacks then you are an idiot. Do I feel sorry for the ones banned yes.

Now could you please stop accusing me of things I didnt say. That goes for the other troll to.

By the way, I am glad your trolling me, someone else may be bothered by it or worse be given a negative outlook about these forums.


This is the part were most people stopped being annoyed at you and instead decided you were being a jerk.

You are sorry for the cheaters, we understand that, and very few of us agree with you on that count.

You were mistakenly perceived as continuing the sympathy thread by people that were quickly browsing the topic to get to the good parts.

You took great offense at that.

You drug argument on to the point of reducing sympathy for your side of the argument significantly.

Then you started insulting people that were trying to calm you down and bring the argument to a peaceful end.


You have 5 choices now:
1. Insult me for getting involved.
2. Let it drop.
3. Apologize to the people that were trying to be peacemakers.
4. Continue annoying people with this argument.
5. Edit your original posts to hide the evidence.

#345 DaZur

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:40 PM

View Postreign, on 27 May 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

Wave 1... More to come. I hope you didn't make to many bad decisions people :)

I did eat some suspiciously grey meat this afternoon... Does that count? ^_^

#346 Nightmare1

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:40 PM

View PostSmith Gibson, on 27 May 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:


No one had a problem with anything you were posting up until this point.



Quite a few players were annoyed by your apparent sympathy for cheaters at this point as noted by your lack of "likes" and the replies they made.



Too many players mistook this as being a continuation of your comment showing apparent sympathy for cheaters.



Because most (or perhaps just a lot of) people only remembered your "I feel sorry for them post" they stopped paying attention to your argument at this point and and started getting annoyed at you.



This is the part were most people stopped being annoyed at you and instead decided you were being a jerk.

You are sorry for the cheaters, we understand that, and very few of us agree with you on that count.

You were mistakenly perceived as continuing the sympathy thread by people that were quickly browsing the topic to get to the good parts.

You took great offense at that.

You drug argument on to the point of reducing sympathy for your side of the argument significantly.

Then you started insulting people that were trying to calm you down and bring the argument to a peaceful end.


You have 5 choices now:
1. Insult me for getting involved.
2. Let it drop.
3. Apologize to the people that were trying to be peacemakers.
4. Continue annoying people with this argument.
5. Edit your original posts to hide the evidence.


Nice! I wasn't going to draw a picture for him like that, lol. Instead, I just blocked him. :lol:

View Postorcrist86, on 27 May 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

One of the banned guys is coming clean on outreach hpg and will answer questions. He says those who cheated knew the got caught almost a week ago.


Linky?

Thankee! :)

#347 Mycrus

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:41 PM

View PostIngvay, on 27 May 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Yep. It's certainly a slap in the face to the unit per say... ;-(


Reason i ask because its just like violence conditioning... if the group tacitly approves then there is more incentive to do it.

Example - i founded a unit and we tacitly approve trolling.

#348 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:42 PM

View Postorcrist86, on 27 May 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

One of the banned guys is coming clean on outreach hpg and will answer questions. He says those who cheated knew the got caught almost a week ago.


linky

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:44 PM

View PostPurger of Man, on 27 May 2015 - 04:32 PM, said:

I think the list of banned people should be auto-inserted into random mechs in the training grounds
instead of "no-pilot", it would be fun to kill dirty cheaters whilst we test our mechs/weapons :lol:

Poetic Justice, from the "Best" to "Targets" :P, also a constant reminder to everyone ;)

Ps: Gonna make a thread about it, thanks op :)

Yessssssssssssssss!

#350 MasterC

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:45 PM

Thank you PGI for catching and outing the cheaters.

Please update the posted list of cheaters to include the unit they belonged to.

I can't remember the names of the pilots I suspected of cheating but I definitely remember the units I suspect of it. I would really like to know if my suspicions about certain units are correct.

#351 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:45 PM

I dont see it, did the moderators already delete it?

http://www.reddit.com/r/outreachhpg/

#352 TVMA Doc

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:46 PM

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<a class="expand" href="javascript:void(0)">[–]dasadevil 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (10 children)


DasaDevil here.
Yep, I cheated. I will openly admit to abusing the client and the game to do things I probably shouldn't have. I avoided comp teams after I dabbled into it, and moved on to casual play. Anybody that knows me will tell you that I up front stated that I didn't want to play in competitive leagues. This is the reason why.
Ask me any question you want now that I'm outed. I suppose I can call it a service if people want to know what it is from the other side.
Keep in mind, all I did was **** with textures in the client and play around with ESP's and changing HUD's around and all that to fool around with the game in the solo queue and do really really crazy **** that probably wouldn't have worked without all of this, but of course this is all heresay on my part so take it as you will.
Insults will be ignored but pile them on either way, I know I'm deserving of it, and I'm not going to be asking for my Wave 3 refund as a personal give-back to the community, or even forcing PayPal to give it back to (I very much could, easily.)

#353 Omi_

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:47 PM

PGI, a big thank you for posting the names of these accounta publicly. This is very useful information as far as the community moderating itself, and it has nothing to do with name-and-shame.

#354 Kiiyor

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:47 PM

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#355 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:49 PM

View PostTVMA Doc, on 27 May 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

or even forcing PayPal to give it back to (I very much could, easily.)


Cheated... why not lie as well lol

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:49 PM

View PostSmith Gibson, on 27 May 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:




No one had a problem with anything you were posting up until this point.



Quite a few players were annoyed by your apparent sympathy for cheaters at this point as noted by your lack of &quot;likes&quot; and the replies they made.



Too many players mistook this as being a continuation of your comment showing apparent sympathy for cheaters.



Because most (or perhaps just a lot of) people only remembered your &quot;I feel sorry for them post&quot; they stopped paying attention to your argument at this point and and started getting annoyed at you.



This is the part were most people stopped being annoyed at you and instead decided you were being a jerk.

You are sorry for the cheaters, we understand that, and very few of us agree with you on that count.

You were mistakenly perceived as continuing the sympathy thread by people that were quickly browsing the topic to get to the good parts.

You took great offense at that.

You drug argument on to the point of reducing sympathy for your side of the argument significantly.

Then you started insulting people that were trying to calm you down and bring the argument to a peaceful end.


You have 5 choices now:
1. Insult me for getting involved.
2. Let it drop.
3. Apologize to the people that were trying to be peacemakers.
4. Continue annoying people with this argument.
5. Edit your original posts to hide the evidence.


You goons got nothing better to do? Really? Whats got you so upset to be taking my replies out of context and pick them apart. Get real.

There is no arguement. I am being accused of saying things I didnt say. Trolling isnt an arguement. Thanks bye.

I will check this scene out in another hour or so again. Hopefully you guys are done greifing.

Edited by Johnny Z, 27 May 2015 - 04:52 PM.


#357 orcrist86

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:51 PM

View PostTVMA Doc, on 27 May 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

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&lt;a class=&quot;expand&quot; href=&quot;javascript:void(0)&quot;&gt;[–]dasadevil 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago (10 children)


DasaDevil here.
Yep, I cheated. I will openly admit to abusing the client and the game to do things I probably shouldn't have. I avoided comp teams after I dabbled into it, and moved on to casual play. Anybody that knows me will tell you that I up front stated that I didn't want to play in competitive leagues. This is the reason why.
Ask me any question you want now that I'm outed. I suppose I can call it a service if people want to know what it is from the other side.
Keep in mind, all I did was **** with textures in the client and play around with ESP's and changing HUD's around and all that to fool around with the game in the solo queue and do really really crazy **** that probably wouldn't have worked without all of this, but of course this is all heresay on my part so take it as you will.
Insults will be ignored but pile them on either way, I know I'm deserving of it, and I'm not going to be asking for my Wave 3 refund as a personal give-back to the community, or even forcing PayPal to give it back to (I very much could, easily.)

Thanks for posting this from there. He does talk about his hacks, but gets coy on specifics.

Edited by orcrist86, 27 May 2015 - 04:52 PM.


#358 BigZach

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:54 PM

View PostGreenjulius, on 27 May 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Who might this clever sucker be?


Redjack3.

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:54 PM

View PostBurktross, on 27 May 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

Nothing better than righteous justice, amirite? Name and shame was certainly an interesting approach. :D


Shaming, tarring and feathering people, it seems humanity has not evolved much at all. <smh>

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 04:56 PM

View PostEboli, on 27 May 2015 - 04:31 PM, said:

I am sure that PGI has gone to great lengths to ensure that the 64 players banned truely deserved to be banned. It would be a PR nightmare if they have made a banning mistake.

PGI does not need to specify to us what methods they used to confirm that a person was cheating as much as players may want to know how. This is because the more the $hitty cheater programmers know the greate the chance they may create a workaround. It really is a game of cat and mouse in this aspect.

Those 64 players were caught cheating and these were the absolute easily identifiable ones. I have complete trust in PGI on this one. Good bye cheaters - don't come back.

This is the first round of banning lists so PGI must be looking at other players to confirm their $hitty cheating habits. I am sure that it takes time for PGI to come to a conclusion against each player.

Take your time PGI, make sure you have them and give them the big Ban Hammer. We are better without these people, even if they spent some money on the game and I do wonder how many big names we will eventually see.

I am so glad that PGI has gone down this route.

If players are going to leap to the defence of identified cheating players then you are fighting a loosing battle and I doubt there will be many honest players here who will give you any compassion.

Cheers!
Eboli

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