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#361 Kjudoon

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:01 AM

Too armchair Shwartzkopfs walking around telling people their fun is contingent on others obeying them.

#362 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:03 AM

View PostChewBaka, on 27 December 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

Wow. So you're allowed to dictate other people's fun while others can't. Whatever than. Good luck to you too.

yup, that's exactly what I said and implied.
try again

#363 ChewBaka

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:10 AM

View PostSandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 12:03 AM, said:

yup, that's exactly what I said and implied.
try again

That's basically what it amounts to.

Its like I already said. The meta has shifted to a faster-paced game with higher mobility and little face time. You really should be adjusting accordingly.

You want to play a slow-arse mech and expect your teammates to cover you, you're essentially dictating other people's gameplay no matter how you want to hash it.

#364 Karl Marlow

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:12 AM

View PostCathy, on 27 December 2015 - 06:08 AM, said:

LRM's are actually in a better place than they have been for over a year, they're certainly effective (if used properly), and even before the latest buffs and quirks the Hunchback 4J was lethal, in pug groups.

CW is an enigma, they are hated so much by drop comanders, and the Clan XL and large amounts of ECM they have make them far less effective than Clan Lurms, but you just have to look at the number of even organised CW groups that are taking AMS in their builds on IS teams to realise that LRM's can be effective again if used Correctly.
this is something I've noticed for a long time and before CW. Despite all these claims that LRMs are useless these tier 1 players go out of their way to ward themselves from them and will cower behind rocks whenever they hear incoming missiles.

Given time people will show you what they fear the most.

#365 Kjudoon

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:15 AM

Ooooh shots fired thomas.... Shots fired.

#366 sneeking

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:22 AM

I took a twin lrm 10 hunch out yesterday, god dam they made it squishy !

#367 Flutterguy

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:25 AM

View Postsneeking, on 28 December 2015 - 12:22 AM, said:

I took a twin lrm 10 hunch out yesterday, god dam they made it squishy !

Sounds like you were using a 4j. Switch to a 4sp, it's the new hotness for LRM hunchies.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:27 AM

View PostFlutterguy, on 28 December 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

Sounds like you were using a 4j. Switch to a 4sp, it's the new hotness for LRM hunchies.


Im recently returned to find all my good mechs are wrecked....

#369 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:27 AM

View PostChewBaka, on 28 December 2015 - 12:10 AM, said:

That's basically what it amounts to.


no, it's not
not even close, funny how you're the ONLY one who seems to think that...

I'm also still waiting for this explanation of how exactly you make an Atlas "fast" since it's top speed with largest enging is about 62/kph

Edited by Sandpit, 28 December 2015 - 12:28 AM.


#370 ChewBaka

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:35 AM

View PostSandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 12:27 AM, said:

no, it's not
not even close, funny how you're the ONLY one who seems to think that...

I'm also still waiting for this explanation of how exactly you make an Atlas "fast" since it's top speed with largest enging is about 62/kph

And just how many people are agreeing with you too?

Fact of the matter is that if I have to stick around you, it also cramps my playstyle. Now if you're in a brawling Atlas or at least something of a hybrid, it means we both still get to see some action so I have some incentive to watch your back. I am a firm believer in following an assault into a charge.

If you're a slow-*** Atlas armed only with LRMs and hanging in the back, why should I stick around? It lowers my score as I deal less damage due to less contact with the enemy. Getting tags for you means putting my own mech at risk. All just so you can get a higher score and do more damage while I end up performing worse because I have to adjust my playstyle to suit yours? No thanks.

Now, I'm not saying its wrong to drive a slow Atlas but you'd better have a good reason for driving one to make me stick around. I see you hanging in the back and going "whoosh whoosh whoosh", you can bet your slow metal *** I'm going to leave you behind.

#371 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:38 AM

View PostChewBaka, on 28 December 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

And just how many people are agreeing with you too?


I answered that in one of the first posts I replied to you with, feel free to look back Posted Image

View PostChewBaka, on 28 December 2015 - 12:35 AM, said:

And just how many people are agreeing with you too?

Fact of the matter is that if I have to stick around you, it also cramps my playstyle. Now if you're in a brawling Atlas or at least something of a hybrid, it means we both still get to see some action so I have some incentive to watch your back. I am a firm believer in following an assault into a charge.

If you're a slow-*** Atlas armed only with LRMs and hanging in the back, why should I stick around? It lowers my score as I deal less damage due to less contact with the enemy. Getting tags for you means putting my own mech at risk. All just so you can get a higher score and do more damage while I end up performing worse because I have to adjust my playstyle to suit yours? No thanks.

Now, I'm not saying its wrong to drive a slow Atlas but you'd better have a good reason for driving one to make me stick around. I see you hanging in the back and going "whoosh whoosh whoosh", you can bet your slow metal *** I'm going to leave you behind.

You're just saying you can drive a "slow" Atlas as long as YOU think it's a "good" build
lol

EDIT:
Look, the bottom line is you did a douchey thing to someone, got called out on it, and noticed that you're kinda on your own with this one.
Let's call it what it was which was a very sh*tty thing to do to another player and not make it a habit :)

Edited by Sandpit, 28 December 2015 - 12:50 AM.


#372 ChewBaka

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:53 AM

View PostSandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 12:38 AM, said:

I answered that in one of the first posts I replied to you with, feel free to look back Posted Image

You're just saying you can drive a "slow" Atlas as long as YOU think it's a "good" build
lol

Nope. You can drive whatever you like. Just don't expect others to adjust to your choice of ride. You picked your mech, you deal with its consequences if its a little too 1-dimensional. That's all I've been saying.

#373 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:58 AM

View PostChewBaka, on 28 December 2015 - 12:53 AM, said:

Nope. You can drive whatever you like. Just don't expect others to adjust to your choice of ride. You picked your mech, you deal with its consequences if its a little too 1-dimensional. That's all I've been saying.

lol
ok have it your way dbag Posted Image

#374 RestosIII

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:03 AM

Having a screaming match on the forums with personal insults getting thrown around? Not good.
Gladiatorial fight in game pitting the people arguing against each other while everyone else watches? Perfect.

#375 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:05 AM

View PostThomasMarik, on 28 December 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

this is something I've noticed for a long time and before CW. Despite all these claims that LRMs are useless these tier 1 players go out of their way to ward themselves from them and will cower behind rocks whenever they hear incoming missiles.

Given time people will show you what they fear the most.

Agreed, like I said earlier, the only reason lurms never "meta" is because they don't fit into that min/max formula and those top players who think they're "useless" are often the first ones to break lines and turn to run after getting hit with a couple of LRM10s :P

#376 ChewBaka

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:09 AM

View PostSandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 12:38 AM, said:

I answered that in one of the first posts I replied to you with, feel free to look back Posted Image

You're just saying you can drive a "slow" Atlas as long as YOU think it's a "good" build
lol

EDIT:
Look, the bottom line is you did a douchey thing to someone, got called out on it, and noticed that you're kinda on your own with this one.
Let's call it what it was which was a very sh*tty thing to do to another player and not make it a habit Posted Image

View PostSandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 12:58 AM, said:

lol
ok have it your way dbag Posted Image

The only person here who is on your side is that other LRM boat atlas guy.

So you're saying your teammates are not being douchey only if they always cover your back and hold locks for you? You do realize its a PUG right?

I just find it amusing that you can bring a subpar mech to the game but than go around complaining about other player's subpar gameplay. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Its a PUG. Its about having fun. Just enjoy the chaos of it. I fully admit that abandoning that guy means leaving him out of the fun, but not leaving him might result in a loss which is also not fun for the rest of the team.

A win is a win. It happens. Too bad for the guys who had to die for it, but I don't whine about it when it happens to me. Personally, I'm happy if the team can win from my sacrifice. If you want to whine about it when it happens to you, be my guest.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:09 AM

Restos.... Welcome to forum warrior online. The OTHER F2P pgi game.

#378 RestosIII

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:12 AM

View PostKjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:09 AM, said:

Restos.... Welcome to forum warrior online. The OTHER F2P pgi game.

Guess I'm just too used to forums for smaller communities, where if you make an enemy, it's likely you'll be running into him constantly on the forums AND ingame, so people are more polite or do settle it ingame instead of having mostly useless monologues.

#379 Kjudoon

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:13 AM

Chew... I am on neither of your "sides". Say something i agree with and i will support it and vice versa. Sand says a lot of smart things but i dont always agree with him and he knows it too. In the case of an lrm atlas hes more right than wrong. Where you are right is that people should play what they want. Where i stand is that regardless of your position and reactionary attitude i have right now you need to accept the consequences of your actions.

#380 Sandpit

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:17 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 28 December 2015 - 01:12 AM, said:

Guess I'm just too used to forums for smaller communities, where if you make an enemy, it's likely you'll be running into him constantly on the forums AND ingame, so people are more polite or do settle it ingame instead of having mostly useless monologues.

You can't get much smaller than this lol
Trust me, it's pretty tame around here for the most part. I have no "enemies", I have people on my block and ignore list and I could honestly truly care no less than I do now about "running into them in game" lol
So they can....l shoot me? TK me? etc.? Then I just block and report them.

Other than that, I shoot them just as often as they shoot me so I ain't too skeered bout that one :P





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