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[Kjudoon]

Restos... I have a long list of self proclaimed enemies who cant wait to put contracts out on me. I have been singled out and played the pork chop of doom to many a would be pitbull who didnt like someone disagreeing with their gawdlike opinion in the forums spend their time trying to kill me personally at the expense of the rest of the match and their 11 teammates fun.

Let the jimmies rustle through them and embrace the power of nerdrage.

[sneeking]

The above shenanigans is commonplace round these parts.

Happens in game too lol....

[Sandpit]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

Chew... I am on neither of your "sides". Say something i agree with and i will support it and vice versa. Sand says a lot of smart things but i dont always agree with him and he knows it too. In the case of an lrm atlas hes more right than wrong. Where you are right is that people should play what they want. Where i stand is that regardless of your position and reactionary attitude i have right now you need to accept the consequences of your actions.

I think people should play what they want as well. Not play what they want as long as a team of dbags agrees that it's a "good" build, otherwise they ruin your game experience.
That's the difference

[RestosIII]

Sandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 01:17 AM, said:

You can't get much smaller than this lol
Trust me, it's pretty tame around here for the most part. I have no "enemies", I have people on my block and ignore list and I could honestly truly care no less than I do now about "running into them in game" lol
So they can....l shoot me? TK me? etc.? Then I just block and report them.

Other than that, I shoot them just as often as they shoot me so I ain't too skeered bout that one

When I say small, I mean 200 people that look.at the forums on a semi-regular basis small. To not be completely off topic: I love when someone has a lock for me to rain LRMs with, but if I mention for people to use TAG and NARC, it's purely a "Hey, an LRM boat exists so while you're doing your own thing, if it's convenient and you won't get shot for it fire a NARC or TAG out." I'm perfectly willing to get my own locks as long as the assaults and other heavies won't try to use the LRMboat as a meatshield, which has happened way too often for me lately. (Your dakka whale does not need to be hiding behind and blocking an LRM boat please.)

[ChewBaka]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:13 AM, said:

Chew... I am on neither of your "sides". Say something i agree with and i will support it and vice versa. Sand says a lot of smart things but i dont always agree with him and he knows it too. In the case of an lrm atlas hes more right than wrong. Where you are right is that people should play what they want. Where i stand is that regardless of your position and reactionary attitude i have right now you need to accept the consequences of your actions.

Which is what, exactly? Leaving a LRM boat Atlas behind to take part in a NASCAR on Caustic? It resulted in a win. I see no reason to apologize for that. It worked for the team. I admit it didn't work out so well for that fella, but we can't make everyone happy in a match.

Sandpit, on 28 December 2015 - 01:18 AM, said:

I think people should play what they want as well. Not play what they want as long as a team of dbags agrees that it's a "good" build, otherwise they ruin your game experience.
That's the difference

I already said I'm not interested in dictacting your gameplay. But I don't like it when people dictate mine as well as a result.

Plenty of my builds aren't meta myself.

[Kjudoon]

Sand i kinda smirk a little when i see someone who has publically denounced me or my unit for having me as a member. True story bro.... I always wonder how deep their anger is for me over a disagreement and set up to make sure if they focus on me they will be torn apart by my team. I never go after anyone because of being a problem child in the forums. It is better to get the victory or deny them revenge than be the guy that killed them.

So... Yeah. I actually had one match taped where i was the guy who got the kill on someone i had just that day got into it with me. I deleted it because of 2 reasons. I didnt want to gloat and it was just luck of the draw... Nothing more. I also will congratulate teammates of that variety when they do well beli3ve it or dont... If i have voip on.

[sneeking]

Public rooms with player moderation is the answer for solo matches.

In unit play feel free to dictate my weight class my meta and command my actions...

[Sandpit]

RestosIII, on 28 December 2015 - 01:26 AM, said:

When I say small, I mean 200 people that look.at the forums on a semi-regular basis small. To not be completely off topic: I love when someone has a lock for me to rain LRMs with, but if I mention for people to use TAG and NARC, it's purely a "Hey, an LRM boat exists so while you're doing your own thing, if it's convenient and you won't get shot for it fire a NARC or TAG out." I'm perfectly willing to get my own locks as long as the assaults and other heavies won't try to use the LRMboat as a meatshield, which has happened way too often for me lately. (Your dakka whale does not need to be hiding behind and blocking an LRM boat please.)

Really you have about that here. We've seen a recent influx of activity since Steam but you have a few hundred (if that) or so regular forum visitors. Normally GD, CW, and Help sections are most active. If you want to see off-topic and calamity head to K Town. Lots of fun there lol

As far as off-topic? Trust me, this thread went off the rails about 15 pages back lol which is what happens with silly threads like this. Mostly, those of us that have been around for a while, try to help correct misinformation (such as the OP trying to imply hitting R is somehow "wrong" or "hard" or whatever), have a few discussions about some balancing ideas, and then make fun of the ones with no sense of humor and shame a few dbags and trolls along the way lol

Welcome to MWO forums and the community

[Kjudoon]

Look... Nobody plays escort anymore here because it is not an effective strategy in this arena shooter crap. Just accept the limitations of your build. If you get left behind... Its a s3lf infl8cted wound for not bringing a better build or position correctly anticipating the enemy.

Simple as that. And i do run an lrm king crab from time to time with a top speed of 53. So what?

[Sandpit]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

Sand i kinda smirk a little when i see someone who has publically denounced me or my unit for having me as a member. True story bro.... I always wonder how deep their anger is for me over a disagreement and set up to make sure if they focus on me they will be torn apart by my team. I never go after anyone because of being a problem child in the forums. It is better to get the victory or deny them revenge than be the guy that killed them.

So... Yeah. I actually had one match taped where i was the guy who got the kill on someone i had just that day got into it with me. I deleted it because of 2 reasons. I didnt want to gloat and it was just luck of the draw... Nothing more. I also will congratulate teammates of that variety when they do well beli3ve it or dont... If i have voip on.

My fanclub has tried all sorts of funny things. I even got all of Marik shamed once for letting me hang around lol I think Heffay and I were neck and neck until he went total troll lol Bishop does a fine job of it and he's got more patience with it than I do so he can continue being the white knight mascot

I'm too jaded to be a white knight anymore, but I applaud PGI when I think they've earned my praise, try to give suggestions to help improve the MWO experience, and try to help new players who want it. Other than that, I'm here for the pew pew pew and building a community I've invested a lot of time, money, and energy into

[diablo595]

Asking for locks implies that you're just going to sit back at 1k and lob missiles at walls.
Active lrm usage usually requires for you to stay with the group and close to the targets to get positive hits.

that statement implies that you are selfish and don't understand the game

[Kjudoon]

How many posts was thaT till that ignorant echo returned? First post and its that? New player expertise or troll account for someone ot brave enough to say it publicly? Play lrms exclusively for a month and then report back on your education.

Edited by Kjudoon, 28 December 2015 - 01:42 AM.

[Sandpit]

diablo595, on 28 December 2015 - 01:38 AM, said:

Asking for locks implies that you're just going to sit back at 1k and lob missiles at walls.
Active lrm usage usually requires for you to stay with the group and close to the targets to get positive hits.

that statement implies that you are selfish and don't understand the game

for the last time...
no
it doesn't

now that we've cleared that up can we stop saying it? We're all sorry some of you misinterpreted "asking for locks" to somehow magically mean we're going to sit in the back and not participate in the game other than lobbing random lrms at enemy mechs you so bravely charge into for the sole purpose of getting locks for lurms.

So now that it's finally all cleared up and the meaning has been clarified, can we move on? Next time you see someone "asking for locks" instead of assuming the above, how about just assume they're your teammate and the tactical data you send by hitting R is helpful and valuable instead of trying to concoct elaborate plots as to why your devious teammate dared to ask you to lock targets?

thanks

Edited by Sandpit, 28 December 2015 - 01:44 AM.

[ChewBaka]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:33 AM, said:

Look... Nobody plays escort anymore here because it is not an effective strategy in this arena shooter crap. Just accept the limitations of your build. If you get left behind... Its a s3lf infl8cted wound for not bringing a better build or position correctly anticipating the enemy.

Simple as that. And i do run an lrm king crab from time to time with a top speed of 53. So what?

Now this, I would apologize for. I did come off as a ***** in making my point. You say it rather better.

[Kjudoon]

Just a thought too. Being jealous that an lrmboat can effectively engage at 800 plus meters and get full damage is foolish. The leaf should not be jealous of the flower. Nor the colon jealous of the eye. Both are important when they work together. It is when they refuse to work together that the team withers and crap happens you didnt see coming.

Lol chew. Nothing taken personally here. I have had more experience being one of those censored things i suspect.

[diablo595]

Kraftwerkedup, on 26 December 2015 - 05:01 PM, said:

By taking LRMs instead of a better mech and build, youre hurting the team. Im not going to reward you for that behavior by making it easier on you to hurt the team.


Some of us actually play the game, get kills, win games, you know, the stuff youre supposed to do.

If LRMs werent terribad, id be with you. Id help you get locks. But im not going to in any way encourage you being a bad player. THATS helping my team.

Trust me. I can carry your LRM Awesome. You just stand there and look pretty. I got this.

you are the bad player by not helping your team and promoting bad and ineffective play

[Dodger79]

Extremist Pain, on 26 December 2015 - 03:31 PM, said:

MechWarrior is a team game. Im not sure where this belief that supporting your team is too much. For example, i was just asking for locks in a game and i was told to get my own locks. Im sorry if asking for a contribution is too much, but if you dont feel like being a member of the team, dont play a team based game. You think you can win this game without my help, go ahead and try. Ill enjoy watching you fail.

I find it very amusing that a player that wants to hide behind his fellow teammembers and let them do all the risky work for him while contributing not _that_ much (because LRMs can be countered by numerous ways and his armor is missing on the frontline to share the damage) is calling other players out because of not team-friendly behaviour...

I totally agree that a well played LRM-boat can be a real asset. But usually these folks know what to do and do not ask for locks. You can find them near your frontline or flanking the enemy in fast Mechs, TAGging and NARCing for their own, picking the targets that are locked by others (as every player alwas should press "R" when targeting an enemy) and chooses to fire at the targest where his chance for reliable hits is greatest. Most of the time it is the mostly useless backstanders that ask for locks. It is especially funny when they are in a Clan-LRM-boat, as these are basically LRM _and_ Streak-boats due to no minimum range, therefore they are very capable on their own on the frontline.

[Unreliable Mercenary]

I tend to play my LRM mechs as mid range skirmishers. I find getting my own locks with tag and supplementing my offense with lasers does a few things:

A: Provides another target for the enemy, potentially spreading damage for my team.

B: Allows me to control my engagements, and not rely on pug players to get my locks. Tag bonuses are nice as well.

C: Makes the game a lot more fun (for me) than staring at a mountain and lobbing missiles over it.

In conclusion, I think it is wishful thinking to build a mech around relying on others for locks in pug play, and will only lead to frustration.

Edited by Owen Miller, 28 December 2015 - 03:46 AM.

[Ted Wayz]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:49 AM, said:

Just a thought too. Being jealous that a clanlaserboat can effectively engage at 800 plus meters and get full damage is foolish. The pot should not call the kettle black. Nor the colon be a part of any conversation. Both are important when they work together. It is when they refuse to work together that the team withers and crap happens then you know you are in puglandia.

Lol the world. Nothing taken personally here. I have had more experience being less grammarful i suspect.

FTFY

Serious, peek and poke clan builds complain about LRMs why? If being pro means hiding behind rocks for 10 minutes to get into the perfect position while the other side does the same count me out. This game needs more modes that force movement.

[ChewBaka]

Kjudoon, on 28 December 2015 - 01:49 AM, said:

Just a thought too. Being jealous that an lrmboat can effectively engage at 800 plus meters and get full damage is foolish. The leaf should not be jealous of the flower. Nor the colon jealous of the eye. Both are important when they work together. It is when they refuse to work together that the team withers and crap happens you didnt see coming.

Lol chew. Nothing taken personally here. I have had more experience being one of those censored things i suspect.

Sigh...I am not looking to pick a fight with you either. I do apologize if I came off as a *****, and for appearing to be inconsistent,

But I think you know roughly what I'm getting at, with Kjudoon's point above. Its pretty much the same.

If you want to play whatever mech you like, you should also accept that other people are going to play however they like too. It works both ways.

If you want to dictate my gameplay, I also want to be able to dictate your choice of mech. Or we can mutually just agree to disagree and go our own way as its a PUG.

That doesn't mean I will intentionally abandon you either just for fun, but neither will I hesistate to do so just for a higher score for myself, and I won't apologize for doing so.

No, I'm not ruining someone else's fun. It can also be argued that they are holding back mine, having to shepherd them around.

Competitive gameplay is different, but would such a build even be allowed in competitive?