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[Mole]

I headshot a Kodiak once. Someone had already smacked him in the mouth with something and his cockpit was a deep orange, rest of the 'mech pretty fresh. Ran up to him in my Mist Lynx and shot him in the mouth with 4 small pulse lasers and he dropped like a 100 ton sack of potatoes. It was glorious.

Edited by Mole, 16 September 2016 - 01:12 PM.

[Elthionel]

there's more dire wolves owned in the game, but no one plays them because they're giant targets with no mobility.

kodiaks offer similar firepower, more mobility, smaller footprint. of course they're the preferred clan 100ton heavy

anyone whose played in the invasion event knows that its kodiaks, timberwolves, ebon jaguars, and arctic cheetahs everywhere. occasionaly some huncback IIcs and novas.

[Myantra]

Requiemking, on 16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

Theoretically, a Gargoyle could run point on an unexpected push and wreak face. The main issue with the KDK-3, the only broken variant, is it's hardpoints. The rule of thumb when building mech is "fewer hardpoints= bigger weapons". Hence why the Kodiak 3 runs quad ballistics so well. The only nerf that could balance it for the long run is to remove two of it's Ballistic hardpoints and replace them with something else. Unfortunately, that nerf cannot happen because that would mean a tidal flood of refunds would occur and PGI would probably be in serious trouble.

I understand why quad dakka is used on the Kodiak-3. However, it is not a broken variant. Its advantageous torso hardpoints have plenty of Mech between them for you and everyone else to shoot at, and they must be exposed to do anything. The Kodiak-3 is not an instant "I Win!" button. It does not have magical deflector shields that you have to first punch through. High hardpoints do not change the fact that it still has to facetank to kill you.

If you want to claim that it punishes doing potato things more than most Mechs, then I could probably agree with that. If it gets the drop on you somewhere you cannot quickly get into cover, then you are likely toast. That would happen to you if a dakka Dire Wolf or King Crab do the same thing.

It is still a big 100-ton assault Mech that cannot move any faster than 70kph. It has devastating firepower, and it should. It cannot wreck everyone with impunity from 1000m, it has to close to at least medium range to be effective. It generally gets focused fire from the enemy whenever it is spotted. If you are unable to escape or evade it, then one or more of the following is most likely true:

1. You were alone, somewhere you should not have been, with no cover nearby.

2. You are in something big enough that it should have been with other similar Mechs that could collectively bring it down quickly.

3. You tried to trade with it.

4. Your team folded when a Kodiak-3 led push crested a hill suddenly, or did not focus fire.

The only blatantly OP thing in this game is communication and teamwork. The game even makes it easy for everyone. Sadly, too many players do not take advantage of it.

[Mcgral18]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 12:18 PM, said:

I do not allow them the facetime they require to actually do meaningful damage.

Dat face time tho

https://youtu.be/DxfOJQ8fk3E?t=2m9s



It's better to say, poke the DakkaBear, and push the PokeBear
A Ying and a Yang

[Mole]

Mcgral18, on 16 September 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

Dat face time tho

https://youtu.be/DxfOJQ8fk3E?t=2m9s



It's better to say, poke the DakkaBear, and push the PokeBear
A Ying and a Yang

The build that everyone is bawling over is the 4 UAC/10 build, isn't it? I barely ever see KDK-3s running dual gauss.

[Myantra]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

The build that everyone is bawling over is the 4 UAC/10 build, isn't it? I barely ever see KDK-3s running dual gauss.

The more common one I see now is 2 UAC5 / 2 UAC10.

[Mcgral18]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

The build that everyone is bawling over is the 4 UAC/10 build, isn't it? I barely ever see KDK-3s running dual gauss.

That one is dead, same time the quirks went away, Ghost Heat was multiplied 15 times


The Poke Bear is the most useful, and the inferior DakkaBear of 2*10 2*5 is used as a replacement.
Inferior, but adequate

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 September 2016 - 03:21 PM.

[Mole]

Mcgral18, on 16 September 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

That one is dead, same time the quirks went away, Ghost Heat was multiplied 15 times


The Poke Bear is the most useful, and the inferior DakkaBear of 2*10 2*5 is used as a replacement.
Inferior, but adequate

I honestly haven't even been paying attention to Kodiak's loadouts in my games. They don't scare me and they don't give me issue. Target and kill, that's all I do with an enemy Kodiak. The only information I'm actually utilizing from having a lock is his paperdoll to see where the best place for me to shoot him is. If he's got dual gauss or UACs, that information comes pretty quickly just looking at them. The visual difference between an UAC/10 and a UAC/5 is a little more subtle than the visual difference between a Gauss Rifle and a UAC/10. So maybe I've been seeing bears with UAC/10 UAC/5 combos and just have not noticed the change. I don't even pilot a KDK-3. I pilot a KDK-2. *shrug*

Edited by Mole, 16 September 2016 - 03:47 PM.

[LordNothing]

i have a hard time calling a mech as big as the kodiak op just on the grounds of how easy they are to kill. and the fact that they have a rep for being overpowered means they are the first to get focused down.

[RestosIII]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 03:14 PM, said:

The build that everyone is bawling over is the 4 UAC/10 build, isn't it? I barely ever see KDK-3s running dual gauss.

Nice job smacking your ally in the back with dual gauss.

[Mole]

RestosIII, on 16 September 2016 - 04:00 PM, said:

Nice job smacking your ally in the back with dual gauss.

Hey now, that wasn't me in that video. I don't even own a dual gauss Kodiak.

[RestosIII]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 04:02 PM, said:

Hey now, that wasn't me in that video. I don't even own a dual gauss Kodiak.

OH FML. Misquoted.

Mcgral18, on 16 September 2016 - 03:09 PM, said:

Dat face time tho

https://youtu.be/DxfOJQ8fk3E?t=2m9s



It's better to say, poke the DakkaBear, and push the PokeBear
A Ying and a Yang

You're the culprit I meant to quote.



I'm ashamed that I failed in the art of forum warrioring.

[Mcgral18]

RestosIII, on 16 September 2016 - 04:04 PM, said:

OH FML. Misquoted.
You're the culprit I meant to quote.



I'm ashamed that I failed in the art of forum warrioring.

If you're referring to the time stamp posted, I'm afraid to inform you you're wrong


My Goose WAffles hit Nova's Face


Nova's Goose Waffles hit my friend (in the front)
You see, we fire almost simultaneously



You bring dishonour upon ForumWarriors

Edited by Mcgral18, 16 September 2016 - 04:11 PM.

[Mole]

Mcgral18, on 16 September 2016 - 04:10 PM, said:

dishonour

Well now I know McGral is probably from Europe if not Great Britain.

[WatDo]

Damn, someone used Necro on this thread and it was super effective.

I can't believe how many people wanna try to say an assault with direwolf level firepower and atlas level survivability with heavy mech speed and jagermech placed hardpoints isn't op (oh and they all still have quirks, lol keep defending it, guys). It's literally the best of every world. But whatevs, people gotta protect their crutch mechs.

I will call every kodiak a Krutchdiak until the day i quit playing though.

[Razorfish]

OK,

I’ll bite.

No other mech puts up damage numbers like it, over and over again. 2K to 2.5k easy, without even trying hard, regardless of skill level.

More than that, I love the elitist jack-offs on this thread.

Get good.

If you think the Kodiak is OPed you suck.

What a bunch of clowns.

[ice trey]

Star Commander Kreig, on 19 May 2016 - 07:15 PM, said:

they don't suck as much as other 100t mechs

To me, this is the biggest fault.

If there's a "Suck more" and a "Suck less", then there's a problem with the game and it only serves to make less variation and stale gameplay. Whether you prefer "Salt and Vinegar" or "Barbeque" chips, in the end, both are chips, and taking either one should be a matter of taste and choice, not one being better than the other.

Also, if you're "Dragging the team down" by taking one mech over another (Not as in taking a Dire Wolf for a light rush, but taking, say, a Summoner over a Timber Wolf), yet again, there's a problem with the game.
...but then, PGI has the numbers, and while they do have some mechs that go up and down with scaling and quirking, there are also some mechs that PGI seems to put on a pedestal that will never get dialed back.

Usually, "Good" mechs like the Kodiak stay that way until it's available for C-bills and there's another new-hotness mech of the same weight class looking to displace them, but if Russ is pitching a tent for Kodiaks, it will be a forever-must-have design like the Stalker, Raven, or Timber Wolf.

Edited by ice trey, 16 September 2016 - 06:50 PM.

[ice trey]

Mole, on 16 September 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Well now I know McGral is probably from Europe if not Great Britain.

Pretty sure that's just anywhere that isn't the US. "Honour" is also Canadian English, Australian English, Even Indian English.
The US is the place with the mutant writing. Also Fahrenheit.

Edited by ice trey, 16 September 2016 - 06:55 PM.

[Mole]

WatDo, on 16 September 2016 - 04:59 PM, said:

But whatevs, people gotta protect their crutch mechs.

You realize I have nothing invested in the KDK-3 and I don't think they're OP because I am quite simply not afraid of them and I don't feel any more threatened by them than I do a Vindicator, right? Honestly, if you're whining because the big bad bear touched you in a naughty place and it keeps happening over and over again then that's on you, man. Because it doesn't happen to me, and I don't even own a KDK-3 and the KDK-2 I do own hasn't seen much action since I mastered it.

ice trey, on 16 September 2016 - 06:54 PM, said:

Pretty sure that's just anywhere that isn't the US. "Honour" is also Canadian English, Australian English, Even Indian English.
The US is the place with the mutant writing. Also Fahrenheit.

Oh oh, and don't forget, we're the only idiots that still use the Imperial system of measurement and refuse to switch to the much easier to understand Metric system.

[The6thMessenger]

It's not that Kodiak is op, it's just that it sucks less than all other assaults.